Fragnostus

Spying is nothing new to windows. I remember being taught not to handle sensitive data on windows (political stuff) more than ten years ago because of potential spying. I haven't used windows for anything but gaming ever since (and not at all on any personal computers in the past two years)

I think these shouldn't really be regarded as two seperate issues though. The newer versions of windows have more spying potential and therefore a forced upgrade is also an issue about privacy. But people who care shouldn't be using windows in the first place, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jerry

Whats a good OS that doesnt spy on you? Im building a computer soon

sec

I would recommend Linux mint over Ubuntu

HentaiOjisan

Depends on how sure you want to be about not being spied. For a "normal" person that is just concerned about spying I'd say Debian. AFAIK the only data that gets sent to remote servers is the package popularity contest, and you get asked to enable/disable it at installation time.

Don't really know about other linux distros except for ubuntu, and I really don't recommend it if spying is a concern.

Fragnostus

Ubuntu is fine, but you need to know what to disable. If you're paranoid: use Tails (not recommended) otherwise go Debian, Fedora, Arch or Gentoo. If you care about gaming Debian is really the only option if you're trying to avoid Ubuntu.

dabork

No, they're focusing on the forced update because it's the only part of this whole fiasco that is actually has lasting, serious, repurcussions.

Telemetry gathering even after a user has disabled the features is scummy, literally forcing updates that often break machines is flat out bullshit, so that's what people are focusing on now. The telemetry is old news, and it's not going anywhere, and people have found workarounds, so it's not a hot discussion any more.

It's hard to get people motivated about spying because "durrrrr I've got nothing to hide!", but nobody likes being forced into some shit they never asked for.

YRU2

The difference is that MS now operates in the gray area instead of off the records. It has a whole lot of implications for the consumers.

GIF-lLL-S0NG

microsoft was created as a joint venture between IBM and uncle sam. Expect that every version has some sort of backdoors