iamrage

Not sure what you're on about, but Bernie has voiced his support for Hillary a month or so ago.

No fucking clue why the American people didn't pick Bernie instead. Bloody tarded they made it all out to be Hills vs Trump. Bernie is a far superior candidate than those two.

/shrug

American politics lol

rhy

Corporations run everything. Especially the media. Don't blame the populace.

SavePrivateRyne

Bernie gets millions of votes, fights voter fraud/suppression, inspires a whole new wave of young people to become politically active, breaks records for donations from individuals. = 3% airtime on major networks who just talk shit on him

Bernie endorses Hillary Clinton. = 85% network coverage

Yeah. We don't see a bias.

Edit: punctuation

un1ty

And then becomes everything he campaigned against and supports the 1% and establishment like a cucked loser.

You were had just like the rest of the Obama voters - he ran on the same idea and screwed us all over.

SavePrivateRyne

I don't really agree with that. But I will be voting for Jill Stein.

I definitely don't think it is the same situation for Bernie. Obama can be quoted as saying "Hillary will say anything and change nothing." - 2008

and

""Hillary is the best person for the office" - 2016

Check Bernie's record. The man is consistent. He always said he was going to support the democratic nominee. He always said he would do whatever possible to take down Trump. He wasn't the same person in politics for 30 years all for some elaborate hoax to make Hillary and the 1% more powerful.

un1ty

Why would I check his record when he just blew everything he's claimed by endorsing a criminal for president? The guy fell back on EVERYTHING he stood for and proved that he's just another "say anything to get elected" politician. The point with Obama was the sheer charisma that everyone was taken up by. He was going to save the country, relieve us from the 'racism' scars, end the wars, close Gitmo, et-fucking-cetera. Nada. Nothing but a continuance of what, IMHO, G. H. W. Bush started with REX84.

This whole "anything but Trump" is just the same game played under a different name. It is to scare weak minded people into voting against what they truly want.

Either way, even if a Green party or Libertarian wins, we're all still fucked.

SavePrivateRyne

I think he is endorsing what he believe is the best chance at continuing his political revolution. You should check his record because he has been saying the same thing for years. Something Hillary and Obama do not do. But Bernie also made it very clear that change doesn't start from the top down. It's the bottom up.

If you are this passionate you should vote in more local elections. I'm not saying you should vote for who I believe in but vote for people getting money out of politics. Clean politicians will work their way up.

un1ty

I do vote local, thanks.

Sanders is only 'revolutionary' in the same sense of Trotskyism - he's nothing new and his ideas are not OC. Its rhetoric, again, for the masses who do not understand politics in America that need something to cling to in order to feel like they're part of something.

SavePrivateRyne

for the masses who do not understand politics in America that need something to cling to in order to feel like they're part of something.

Are you describing like 85-90% of all voters or just Sanders supporters? It is a guess but I'm going to say you are a Trump supporter. There is nothing wrong with that, except I don't understand how you can generalize however many voters it was Bernie got (13 million ish) without putting yourself in the same category. Tell me the potential president you want to vote for with only OC, no rhetoric, and mass appeal. Then tell me how it's helping. No candidate is perfect but even if you call endorsing Hillary lying to his followers (which I don't and I voted for him) you caught him. Good for you. He's still an honest politician 99% of the time which is another reason why I voted for him. Even if I didn't agree with everything he said I believed him when he said it.

Konran

Not sure where you're from but to me politics everywhere in the West is fucking lol.

In Britain they voted against an unelected bureaucracy in Europe controlling them. Now they've got a new fucking Prime Minister that has been chosen by 2 out of every 1000 people in Britain (Conservative Party members) which is the least democratic way I've ever heard for a national leader to get selected.

In Spain we have a President who doesn't like facing the press or dealing with current problems - in general the PP (Popular Party) use the well-versed 'stick-fingers-in-ears-and-hope-it-goes-away' type policy. There was a movement that suggested things could change but the system beat that down and now Podemos are a spent force.

Italian banks are collapsing under huge debt repayment issues.

Japan have just elected Shinzi Abe again even after a total devaluation of the Yen and an ongoing recession that has lasted for nearly a decade. Fukushima is still a big problem but I don't see any political solutions coming forward.

Canada has some strange politics going on - TPP, legalising non-penetrative sex with animals and children, Rob Ford of Toronto, etc.

Australia ain't much better and with New Zealand being one of the 'Five-Eye Alliance' partners we see an experimental implementation of total surveillance occurring there right now.

Western politics lol

Empire_of_the_mind

More likely is that Veep is intended to normalize the behavior and acclimate the audience toward it. This way they are less likely to be surprised, angered, or upset, as their ethical compass is eroded by the proximity to casual corruption they gain from spending their hours with Veep.

Nearly every single person who has told me to watch Veep is most likely a Hillary voter, for what it's worth.

Sciency

I'm pretty sure house of cards is a strait-up documentary of the clintons.

hats_

Haven't seen either of those...

Would you recommend? If so, which should I start first?

Thanks!

IggyReilly

Depends on your mood. House of Cards is more serious/drama, though highly entertaining. Veep is a comedy, and for some reason, I cannot get into it. Julia Louis-Dreyfus cusses too much and it seems unnatural to me. I would recommend both, but personally I prefer House of Cards.

hats_

Thank you for replying! I'll check out House of Cards first; I keep seeing it mentioned but never got around to checking it. Then, maybe, Veep just to see.

Appreciate it!

SavePrivateRyne

House of Cards is awesome and only gets better. Also I'm pretty sure it was Bill Clinton who claimed it was 99% accurate to real life. Which is dumb to admit because it just shows how shitty him and his devil wife are.