Sciency

No doubt. Lots of oath-keeper types in the armed forces.

Karys

I just read the whole text and I don't see where it says he can use military force on civilians. Can someone point it out to me if I missed it? Or is this fear mongering...? Most of the provisions were about analyzing the current measures we take to prevent civilian deaths during military actions and reviewing how we could improve. He even included a measure that details about all drone strikes outside of active combat zones will be released annually... Not really sure why everyone's so mad about this

monkeytoe101

this applies to civilians - most likely in other countries. it does not specify US citizens. perhaps it's vagueness is a concern but it would use the word "domestic" if it applied domestically.

Sciency

In the eyes of the law, you stop being a US citizen as soon as they label you a combatant or terrorist. A label is all they need to kill anyone they deem a threat.

Drenki

I don't see anything in there about using US military against US citizens.

fatpeopulearestupid

Obama's jewish handlers are overreaching.

OcculusResurrectio

Is he a Muslim or is he controlled by Jews? I somehow doubt both are true.

Konran

Actually he's more like a Muslim controlled by Jews masquerading as a Christian.

Sciency

I doubt it as well, but its not like a jew cant have blackmail material on a muslim. I take it the theory assumes obama is a puppet, rather than a mastermind.

OcculusResurrectio

No doubt he's a puppet. Look how similar his Presidency has been to Bush's

Sciency

I see how you get there, but isn't it possible these guys are all on the same team of their own accord?

OcculusResurrectio

Well sure. I dont know anything here 100%

EngelbertHumperdinck

You can thank the (zionist) media for that misconception.

Lobotomy

This is a really shitty source.

E-werd

This is either the click-bait-iest piece of garbage every written, or more likely, the author has no fucking idea what they're talking about.

I'll go with the latter. If there's something in that order that goes with the clickbait title, I'm all ears. The biggest thing in there was about attaining adequate reports of civilian casualties from military operations in the 2016 calendar year.

bdmthrfkr

The title got me somewhat worried so I read the entire article thinking that there would be a subsection at the bottom allowing U.S. Military Forces to operate in the United States.

I have to admit that I released a sigh of relief when I didn't find it. I do want to thank the OP though, sometimes a good scare is just what I need!

TheDude2

A different angle: http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/06/one-cheer-for-obamas-executive-order-on-drone-strikes/

One Cheer for Obama’s Executive Order on Drone Strikes

Sosacms

So according to him, the militarized police is bad... but military police is good...

dan_k

Summer of Chaos rah rah rah.

reivin

He seems to be trying really hard for martial law now. The closer we get to election time, the harder he seems to be pressing for it. If he gets it, he stays in power. His narcissism knows no bounds.

SavePrivateRyne

I feel like you might not be seeing the strings attached to his back making him sign whatever.

reivin

Oh, I am aware he has strings, but he is also a megalomaniac, so all it does is help their cause. He has long been a drinker of their koolaid, so how much they actually "make" him do is suspect.

SavePrivateRyne

That's valid. We will never really know. But as long as establishment politics is being voted for it will continue. I bet even based on what we do know (how we see money influence bills, laws, world relationships) There is so much more to it we don't have access to because we aren't in the inner circle.

TheDude2

This is across congress and POTUS.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/22/president-obama-states-of-emergency/16851775/

Read this and really think about what is happening.

Sciency

in the University of Michigan Journal of Law Reform, attorney Patrick Thronson identified 160 laws giving the president emergency powers, including the authority to: Reshape the military, putting members of the armed forces under foreign command , conscripting veterans, overturning sentences issued by courts-martial and taking over weather satellites for military use.

(iv) take feasible precautions in conducting attacks to reduce the likelihood of civilian casualties, such as providing warnings to the civilian population (unless the circumstances do not permit), adjusting the timing of attacks, taking steps to ensure military objectives and civilians are clearly distinguished, and taking other measures appropriate to the circumstances

This is fucking game over if the military complies. He doesn't even need a loophole like the UN to take military action against the people anymore.

OcculusResurrectio

Holy fucking shit. This is terrifying. You'd think this was some BS from infowars, but this is the actual state of the country. I can't believe I haven't seen this before. Thanks for sharing.

TheDude2

This is the kind of shit we should be marching against. This fuck is not a fucking King!

iamrage

He can pass them, but the military won't act on illigal orders. There are videos on YouTube of soldiers to officers to high ranking generals saying they'll never fight their own.

OcculusResurrectio

(iii) engage with foreign partners to share and learn best practices for reducing the likelihood of and responding to civilian casualties, including through appropriate training and assistance; and

This section states that a foreign army may be used to avoid the moral high ground that our own military should have.

Sciency

UN "peace-keepers" incoming...

poly

The UN is an illegitimate organization that has no authority beyond what you cede to them.

Kal

I never thought that I could be persuaded into thinking a military coup might be a good thing. Holy fuck how the times have changed.

iamrage

Be aware that they'll most likely mix in mercenaries into the military and they'll weed out any members within the military who voice actions against any illigal orders coming from the government. Officers and generals will have sudden accidents as to minimize them rolling out major offensives against the government.

The only hope left after that point are local malitias to combat the threat, but the firepower will be insufficient, which means it'll be guerrilla warfare for years.

I stronly believe the Americans are heading into a huge civil war, but this time it'll be the American people vs the corporate elite and bought politicians.

History repeats more often than you think. And you can bet there will be a major war in the next 20-30 years -- if not earlier.

/tinfoil hat off

spiritual_gangster

There are a lot of people in the military who would not be turned against their people. I know that they changed the wording of the Oath to include the president as well as the Constitution, but I still think they can be counted on. There's way more bullet sponges than big wigs.

BigFatDaddy

How can he overturn Posse Comitatus with an EO? That's like saying he can get rid of Miranda with an EO. Don't work that way. Now Patriot Act, that's a different story...

un1ty

Because G-Dubya implemented Continuity of Government (A.K.A. REX84) on Sept. 14th, 2001. Ever since then, we've been running at a level below 'emergency declaration' where the us.gov can suspend the Constitution itself.

Welcome to the machine.

poly

If the government can suspend the constitution, can i suspend my federal income tax payments?

un1ty

I don't honestly see why not - I mean, if there is no real law of the land, then who's to come after you for non-payment?

Let me know how that works out for ya.

Drenki

There's nothing about this that says US military can be deployed against US citizens. OP has confused "civilians" with US citizens.

Equizyme

I'm very glad this comment is high up, because these were my exact thoughts after reading it.

Possibly_a_Carrot

Honestly, I would make the same mistake. Would you mind to explain the difference?

Drenki

Section 1. Purpose. United States policy on civilian casualties resulting from U.S. operations involving the use of force in armed conflict or in the exercise of the Nation's inherent right of self-defense is based on our national interests, our values, and our legal obligations. As a Nation, we are steadfastly committed to complying with our obligations under the law of armed conflict, including those that address the protection of civilians, such as the fundamental principles of necessity, humanity, distinction, and proportionality.

So, this would be civilians in say Afghanistan, Iraq, or some other place where US military is operating. And really it says nothing about authorizing force against them, it's actually saying "we need further training to make sure civilians remain safe"

The U.S. Government shall maintain and promote best practices that reduce the likelihood of civilian casualties, take appropriate steps when such casualties occur, and draw lessons from our operations to further enhance the protection of civilians.

This is not really a weird executive order. It is probably just a response to the "accidental" bombing of the Doctors Without Borders hospitals the US did. I can find nothing in the Order that authorizes US military action on US soil.

Sites like the one OP linked to should be avoided as they are actively disseminating misinformation.

Possibly_a_Carrot

Thank you!

OcculusResurrectio

Congress wont pass them, so he throws a fit and EOs everything he wants done. Hes an arrogant piece of shit.