The DNC penetration was the result of an earlier penetration from Hillary Clinton's private server. ( conspiracy )

submitted by senpaithatignoresyou

Right now, a narrative is being spread that the attacks came about as a result of a hacked yahoo email account. This could in fact be the case, it is a plausible explanation.

I am not convinced.

Yahoo is a perfect scapegoat. It is currently being sold to Verizon, so it has nothing to lose, no reputation to be hurt, no damage from a breach.

However, the Clinton emails have demonstrated that she was extremely well connected to people in the DNC, and to people with massive connections globally. This was an unsecured server, and it would have given state sponsored actors more than just access to US secrets.

It gave them the names of people, who their connections are, who they work with, what their psychology was, and avenues and targets for further cyber attack.

As such, the nightmare scenario that i propose is that ALL the dnc, and major democrat politicians and business donors have been compromised. That they have been compromised as a direct result of Clinton's server being compromised, or that weak security points among people with connections where ascertained from her emails. The DNC leaks are an expression of power, and are being used as a brokering tool to both demonstrate that the foreign power has dangerous knowledge, and is not afraid to use it.

GIF-lLL-S0NG

the very nature by design of "email" makes it "insecure". Anyone who is a state actor with judicial immunity can easily access a silly little email server just because it is there.

pitenius

You're right, OP. This was someone's insurance file for a hack that... well, I don't think it concluded how they thought it would.

Empire_of_the_mind

They're compromised in the sense that she drew attention to the. Guccifer and the "guccifer 2.0" person have both explained their methods. There's nothing magical about hacking - that's kind of the big joke with people who understand technology. Guccifer, literally a broke Romanian farmer, had no trouble breaking into computer locations that housed former presidents, the secretary of state, and other people's information.

the people making decisions about hillary and the dnc's email have demonstrated unequivocally that theyre not qualified to wield power in a technological era like we're in. they've shown that they don't have the slightest idea what they're doing or what they're up against.

dingomeat

Romanian farmer, what a load of shit.

Empire_of_the_mind

yeah by his own account he wasn't much of a farmer

senpaithatignoresyou

That is what gets me.

Even if the emails had no classified information on them, they demonstrated a list of connections, of people, and of methods of operation.

For state actors, with access to psychologists, annalists, and good tools; this information would be priceless. It would give a road map of potential targets and places to go.

As such i suspect that this is why the DNC was hacked so quickly. They knew who to hit and how to hit them. Maybe they have malware and root kits installed in key computers.

The DNC leaks are just as bad. They have a bigger road map of who to hit, how to hit them, and where and when to hit as well.

regardless of motive or outcome: Cyber security is now the hot field.

Empire_of_the_mind

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/faq/

The DNC hacker claims he saw they were suing a certain voter database software hosted on a windows server and he exploited the vulnerabilities to get in, then installed a sophisticated malware package written by Russians that he bought for $1.5k

senpaithatignoresyou

Already a discrepancy in the stories. This could be the explanation.

Did the security guys not know how the attack happened? Are they trying to cover up the attack, or are both these stories a false flag.

Gonna have to make a lot of popcorn for this, and other crap that keeps happening this week.

Empire_of_the_mind

The security guys only know that a russian-made malware tool was used. This of course doesn't mean shit other than russians make quality malware. You cannot conclude that state-sponsored hacking groups did the action based on the evidence. In fact, claiming so is some serious saber rattling.

senpaithatignoresyou

True. I am not certain that this is a state act. It could also be organized crime.

That is another possibility. That organized crime leaked some of the files, as a cover.

It is a nice chaotic breach to watch. They clearly are hiding something, as they are taking a lot of effort to scrub the wikileaks stuff from the various controlled media outlets.

Empire_of_the_mind

well, the "guy" claiming to have done it says exactly what and how he did it and says he's not working for anybody. he claims Guccifer as inspiration and he's a known lone wolf. State actors aren't typically in the business of releasing their pilfered data for two reasons - 1, doing so can implicate you and is an act of war, and 2, the information is more valuable if you have it and they and others don't know you have it. individuals do it for the lulz and the notoriety - exactly what this person is claiming. in his faq he also makes a political aside regarding Moldova/Romania, something that should be a clue as to his background. my hunch is he is Polish, and not some broke farmer but rather a well-off person who thinks he's doing the world a favor ala Snowden, Assange, and Manning. He's right on that point.

GIF-lLL-S0NG

state actors get bonus money for these types of critical successes, further incentivizing getting in and getting out with no resistance.