Bernie Supporters PISSED After Finding out He Actually Won the First Roll Call (but DNC Tossed It to Hillary)

x2501x 2016-07-31T16:54

I mean a literal riot of the convention delegates who supported the other candidate.

I was hard core for Bernie during the primary, but I was amazed at the fact that a lot of Bernie people were really pissed off and had this fantasy that they could convince all the SuperDelegates to flip their votes at the last minute to give Bernie the nomination. As if the higher number of pledged delegates who were at the convention to vote for Hillary would not have been upset and literally physically fought back if that had happened.

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Datawych 2016-07-30T18:08

Too bad most of them will just remain pissed from their couches.

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x2501x 2016-07-30T03:07

yes and no. If you tried to overrule a candidate who actually had the majority of the delegates, you would cause a literal riot, so it's not like that is really an option.

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Bradmonty 2016-07-29T19:28

The DNC was actually just the Hilary and the shady group show

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edthomson92 2016-07-29T19:20

I heard he won 2 or 3

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MyDrunkAccount 2016-07-29T16:45

Tried goggling it but nothing came up, what is a "Roll Call" and what's the significance of winning it?

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SenecaTheYounger 2016-07-29T17:10

The Roll Call vote at the conventions is where the States are each called in Alphabetical order and announce the number of delegates pledged for each candidate that has been nominated.

Here's a video of the DNC's Roll Call vote. Skip to about an hour in and you will see the action pretty quickly. Basically the secretary calls the states name, gives the number of delegates total, then the mic is turned over to the states rep. The state rep then announces the delegate count for each.

Secretary: Arkansas, you have 37 votes, how do you cast your votes?

Arkansas Delegate: [Some lame shit about the state] 10 votes for Bernie Sanders and Arkansas enthusiastically casts 27 votes for the next POTUS Hillary Clinton!

EDIT: The significance of this is the fact that they are actually selecting their nomninee in this process. At the RNC it's different as each delegate is beholden to vote for who they were elected to vote for (with...some exceptions..), but at the DNC the superdelegates are allowed to change their vote at any time leading up to their Roll Call announcement, meaning a "Sanders" superdelegate could decide at the beginning of the Roll Call vote to alert their announcer that they are switching and its totally fine.

This means that the DNC's Roll Call vote is fluid, until it is over there's no way to say with 100% certainty who the nominee will be. Thus, it's interesting that there's talk that the Roll Call should have gone to Bernie.

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x2501x 2016-07-29T18:22

I listened to the whole thing on C-SPAN, and they were giving a running tally the whole time. Clinton very clearly won, so I don't know what kind of BS this article is spewing. There only was one vote so was does "first Roll Call" even mean?

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x2501x 2016-07-29T18:27

Oh, wait I see what they're talking about. The "AM Roll Call" was a fucking rehearsal of how they would do it later, which is why it wasn't counted. If people are too ignorant of the process to have understood that, then they honestly don't deserve any better than they're getting. Knowing the rules is a big part of winning the game.

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Sciency 2016-07-30T01:07

Yup. AM rollcall is just there to give the people behind the curtain enough time to pay off anyone who might ruin their plans.

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SenecaTheYounger 2016-07-29T18:27

Yeah, that's my confusion, cause I semi watched it (muted on a different screen so I could jump in and out) and don't recall two votes...that would have taken the whole damn night!

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MyDrunkAccount 2016-07-29T17:20

Huh. What a truly fucked system. So in essence, at least as it appears, the primary vote is nothing more than a formal national poll for the DNC. lol.

Thank you so much for your response, it was very well written.

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x2501x 2016-07-29T18:24

That's not exactly right. On the first ballot, all the delegates except the Super Delegates are bound to vote in a way that reflects how they were apportioned by the voters in their states. Some states' rules say that their delegates can be free to vote however they want if there is more than one round at the convention, and some states' rules say that delegates may only vote for a different candidate if the one for whom they are pledged is eliminated. That all only really matters if there's more than two candidates and none of them has a majority on the first ballot.

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SenecaTheYounger 2016-07-29T18:29

thanks for clarifying and adding the rest here, I didn't really think to explain additional rounds of voting.

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DigitalRefugee 2016-07-29T16:05

I'll give a fuck the second even one of these limp twisted fantasy dwelling well wishers takes even a slight physical action against what has been a clear exploitation of them and the Democratic process.

Until then, they are what they appear to be: Suckers who followed the Judas Goat all the way to the bloodstained altar and laid down in the face of tyranny.

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emcee8 2016-07-29T16:04

She really does have no real supporters.

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Pawn 2016-07-29T15:58

great job DNC fucktards, it sounds like you fucks are doing everything in your power to get trump elected. You fucks really screwed the pooch this time.