magnora

When I say "Russia knows" I mean the Russian government and its leaders and owners know.

I come and go, thanks for welcoming me back :)

magnora

Any violent revolution would put the American public in that martial law position you pointed out because then the public as well as the government will feel "justified" taking measures to stop the riots by any means necessary. This is also the value of the agent provocateur from the perspective of the police, to create violence where there was none, to give police the excuse to be able to come in and crack down using their practiced methods, where they know they have an upper hand.. Violence begets violence, and the state is better at violence than any of us will ever be.

They have contingency plans for any violent revolution, and it would probably work out in their favor. The US government (mostly the CIA) has overseen the overthrow of 53 international governments since WW2 ended. Most of them violent. There's no doubt they could handle an overthrow here. Any revolution, especially if it's violent, will have its momentum captured by people who are experienced in using the media to guide revolutions to create outcomes that benefit the CIA. They've been doing it for 60 years at the least, they're really good at it.

This is why non-violent revolution is the only way to go, because they don't have good plans for that. If everyone starts shooting and there's a civil war, then you can bet they will be playing both sides, and playing them well. However, if 300 million people simply go stand in DC and clog up the streets until we have a new constitution and a new government, it would happen and the momentum would be much harder for the CIA to capture because it would be a movement by the people and there would be much less confusion and distractions as compared to a violent one. We just need to change the government, we don't need to destroy it all forever.

If possible, I would prefer doing like the UK and many other European countries did with their kings and queens, let them live in a castle and have a fancy title, but take away all their actual power and let the people direct the government. If we could pull off a modern-day version of this with the Bush and Clinton lineages, I think that'd be terrific.

Or Americans could do an 2009 iceland-style pots and pans revolution, where people literally bring their pots and pans and bang them very loudly as they clog the streets for days and weeks, bringing the operations of various organizations to a standstill.

These avenues are very preferable to banana-republic tactics, which the CIA perfected, because they were the ones who did them.

Non-violent protest is the ultimate tactic if everyone participates. Even if just 10% participated, we could start fresh without spilling blood, and without the MIC taking the reigns again.

GIF-lLL-S0NG

India going to help russia and china take down the us/europe? What will happen to india?

magnora

No idea about India really, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them take the same side as the British since their trade and economy is so dependent on the West.

GIF-lLL-S0NG

Exactly a war where Europe russia, china and usa smash each other, makes india sole economic superpower in the post war years.

magnora

That's an interesting theory, but I doubt india is orchestrating all this war activity. They might be lucky to benefit from it though

lorlipone

That's both well thought out, and fucking scary.

With all the Clinton Cash info coming out and the whole "Game of Thrones" being unveiled (Don't get me wrong, I've been pretty wise to the level of fuckery since Ron Paul's first attempt at the presidency, but it gets clearer every day), I really doubt the oligarchs would allow any actual threat to their power. People die all the time, and everyone's got something that can be leveraged against them.

Anyone who might actually threaten the status quo would be offed, or threatened into silence. (See Kennedy or Bernie Sanders).