Good work you glorious bastards. ( conspiracy )

submitted by Thegreatestname

Yet another topic that the media tried to dismiss as "conspiracy theory" has been proven factual.

#Hillaryshealth

QuestionEverything

Yeah.. FYI. Aliens are quite real. Quite here. Have been for 20k+ years..

But instead of looking at facts and sworn testimony and the wealth of human documentation from 20 millenia?

Yeah, you call it a conspiracy theory..

Nothing to see here: https://www.google.com/search?q=ancient+ufo&espv=2&biw=1532&bih=1067&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjDh_uN3InPAhXFXD4KHWsAC1sQ_AUIBygC

smokratez

Could have been with one of your alts. It does get a bit tiresome. Why do butthurt babies keep coming to voat? This is not a place for frail people. They should know that by now.

rhy

Our government is so ridiculously corrupt that nearly any conspiracy, even one you make up with zero evidence has a high chance of being true at some point.

smokratez

It was time to downvote all my posts again? What do you think that accomplishes, other than make you seem like a child?

8_billion_eaters

The truth will prevail. ...you ready to talk about niggers yet?

blackguard19

You would be correct and NASA has some photographs that are supposedly from the moon landing sites ( http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html) ).

However these are certainly not definitive to me, since I am fully aware that there have been successful probe missions to the moon. These could be photos of the real landing sites, photos of the tracks of various probes, or completely fabricated altogether.

What is conspicuous the lack of third-party verification. Every time the idea is floated of another country's sending a satellite telescope to photograph the lunar sites - there should be 6 abandoned rovers and 6 lunar excursion module bases - the idea is quickly snuffed out and dropped from discussion.

In 2010 China sent a lunar probe called Chang'e 2 which supposedly photographed at least one of the Apollo landing sites, but the images never surfaced.

This should make you wonder by now, it's curious that no other advanced nation has even been able to take a good picture of the Apollo landing sites, let alone send people of their own to walk on the moon as we did. Even Russia, who was ahead of America in the space race, launching the first satellite and supposedly the first man in space, has not been able to send cosmonauts to the moon even with 50 years of technological development. Notice that whatever computer you're using right now has more computing power than anything available during the Apollo missions.

That's all I'll say for now unless you're interested enough to continue.

WhiteRonin

Early 2000 feature phones had more power ;-)

blackguard19

Yep, every year that goes by without someone else walking on the moon makes it seem all the more preposterous that we did it 6 times in the 60s and 70s.

WhiteRonin

I'm surprised that China didn't try to prove the US faked it or not. Russia is collaborating and Japan is being polite for what ever reason.

The moon landing and area 51 have always been my target for curiosity.

Pearl Harbor was an obvious -- lie to get into the Pacific war.

blackguard19

I've never researched Pearl Harbor so I have no idea. I didn't research Apollo until the past few weeks but it didn't take long to see right through it. Yeah I figure Russia and China and probably Israel and Japan are blackmailing us with the moon thing. Otherwise I think it would have come out by now. Shouldn't be too hard to get a decent picture of the LEM base with a probe or telescope - IF the landings had actually happened.

NASA is so full of shit, people have no idea.

WhiteRonin

Think about all the universe seeing telescopes spread across the globe ... Not one focused on the moon?

It's easy enough to prove either way ....

Makes you wonder doesn't it!

blackguard19

It's my understanding that we have telescopes more powerful than Hubble here on earth. As you say it shouldn't be hard to prove.

And if it were real, the original footage wouldn't have been destroyed and so many original pictures disappear from the official record.

WhiteRonin

That much has gone missing!?! Especially considering that this was a huge achievement for man!

blackguard19

Yeah it's actually ridiculous. NASA claimed they lost the original footage but like you said, I don't think anyone believe that it wouldn't be locked away safely somewhere for all time if it were authentic.

If you are interested you should watch A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon sometime. It's on YouTube and there are other great ones too. Too many angles you can debunk Apollo from but that short film is a good summary/intro that will get you a long way there. I'm trying to get this topic discussed more.

Earth is surrounded by deadly radiation belts (Van Allen belts) that no manned space mission (other than Apollo, allegedly) has ever got within 700 miles of. But we are to believe that Apollo went through them to go the 236,000 miles to the moon.

WhiteRonin

I try to track that video down.

I've never heard of the tradition belts before. that would mean the Mars mission is already a no go.

blackguard19

Right, NASA admits the Van Allen belts are an obstacle for a mission to Mars. Also, deadly radiation is plentiful once you get to the other side of them. So there's serious doubt that film photography would even be possible on the moon.

NASA also admits lunar dust is a huge issue that we don't have the technology to deal with yet.

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/pdf/486017main_Taylor.pdf

So why don't you guys just use the technology you used with 100% success rate 6 times 50 years ago????? Doesn't add up at all. We didn't go. :(

WhiteRonin

The radiation would explain why film would be spoiled possibly too.

I remember a movie called Capricorn One. Basic premise was that the moon landing was all staged.

Lunar dust too? Jez

I'd be nice if we did though.

blackguard19

Now if we could only have a real conversation about the Apollo missions...

RobintheDungGatherer

Like what, that they happened as we're told and there's no evidence to think otherwise?

blackguard19

Why do you think there's no evidence to think otherwise?

Vaati

Checked because I wanted to see if they condensed everything into a megathread or buried it completely. People spammed Reddit with so many posts about this that r/politics mods eventually gave up on deleting posts, and it ended up taking up almost all of the politics page. (No front page, obvs, but I think everyone knew that was a pipe dream.) Most of the comments are either CTR people desperately pushing the pneumonia angle or people calling bullshit and agreeing this is bad.

Slayfire122

Isn't it wonderful when the truth is released full force like this and no one can deny it's true. I checked this morning and was quite surprised when all the top posts were about Clinton's health. I was expecting a mega-thread about is so they could delete posts and say "we had a mega-thread already." I guess they figured they couldn't hide something that has covered the entire internet.

uberbrew

True, as soon as someone brands a thought as a conspiracy theory people begin imagining tin foil hats and such. But the tide is turning it seems.

SaneGoatiSwear

watch this:

if you cut off the top 20% of a tree by slamming a paper clip through it at 250mph, the top of the tree doesn't pulverize the bottom 80% of the tree into dust and molten concrete, even if the paperclip burned the tree up at the impact zone. furthermore, the top 20% of the tree would fall over sideways onto other trees and branches, again, not fall perfectly into the bottom 80% of the tree, pulverizing the majority of the whole tree into dust. 9/11

in the last few hundred years the biggest coup was when private people took control of nations over kings/queens/dynasties. since at least the american revolution of 1776 and the bank bills of 1779, nations began to be owned not by kings, but by private financiers. that has expanded over the last couple centuries and has led to well, what we were warned of:

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.”

  • Abraham Lincoln - In a letter written to William Elkin

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

  • Thomas Jefferson

well, even an oligarch has admitted it:

“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

  • David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405

and yet i'm a fucking amalek-like nut job for suggesting oligarchs own, operate, and keep enslaved not just america, but earth. well so say imprisoned sheeple, anyway kek.

Bfwilley

Even the clintion news network is covering it.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politics/hillary-clinton-health/index.html

uberbrew

It's weird that more and more of these so called 'conspiracy theories' are turning out to be true.

CantBuySkills

The amount of information the Internet has given us access to is why these are no longer "conspiracy theories." You can't hide shit anymore in this wonderfully flawed digital age.

Gravspeed

Remember that a theory requires proof.

Gravity = theory

Flat earth = hypothesis

gosso920

Gravity. Not just a good idea - it's the Law!

SomewhatNeutral

"Objects exert a force on each other with a linearly increasing strength depending on their masses multiplied and the inverse square of the distance between the two objects" is a hypothesis.

"The earth is flat" is a hypothesis.

Gravspeed

The first creates testable experiments that can be proven therefore it's a theory. The second has no testable experiments so can never be more than a hypothesis.

uberbrew

You're absolutely right which is why everything is more McCarthyism otherwise. But, hey, that's modern (or has it ever changed?) politics for you.

ixaxxar

now if the media will just admit to the holohoax fraud.

uberbrew

Let's not dive into this. There are other fish to fry.

Gravspeed

Hi shill

YodaDankfish

It's indisputable that Germany imprisoned the jews and forced them into labor camps, but think about the economics of cremating 6 million people. https://www.quora.com/How-much-energy-is-required-for-a-human-cremation

Just to cremate one person requires 3 liters of fuel. That would mean that Germany had to use roughly 18 million liters of fuel to cremate all these remains. That is a whole lot of an important resource that the US rationed during ww2.

Let's be generous and assume that they were doing it more efficiently. Even if they found a way to be twice as efficient with their cremation they would still be burning 9 million liters of fuel for something unnecessary to their war on two fronts. I don't think that they were systematically exterminating them. They likely could've been worked to death and executed those who can't work though.

Also the " gas chambers " were completely fabricated. Also consider that it is illegal for people in Germany to deny the holocaust in any way. We're all just drinking some Hitler was evil fascism was bad m'kay kool aide. I don't fully understand the purpose of this deceit, but a whole lot of what we were taught in school about the holocaust isn't true. History is written by the victors.

Slayfire122

Shill: To talk about or describe someone or something in a favorable way because you are being paid to do it

I highly doubt anyone is being paid to paying anyone to deny the holocaust.

Gravspeed

No one with a brain in their head thinks the holocaust was fake. This is not about making people believe it was, but rather that the same people who believe x also believe y so the people who believe x must also be crazy.