DickHertz

Yeah he thinks the CIA is involved. Natural born conspiratard.

DickHertz

Want a tissue you fucking shemale?

DickHertz

I gave him shit about using stupid 'jew' braces ((())) and rode him when he starting downvoting me and injecting himself into my threads after.

He's a crybaby faggot who has some strange fetish with pinging. He thinks I'm your alt because he is mental.

iamrage

You know what would be awesome soon after Trump becomes president? The announcement that Bush is going down for war crimes and bankers -- who've stolen $700 billion from honest American citizens -- going to jail.

If Trump succeeds in doing either, he'll be the greatest president to have ever existed.

ZF_1

What gives you the hope of this. He has hooked up with Giuliani.

DickHertz

What about this @atko ? Just follow it back with his downvoats and this unsolicited comment that had nothing to do with him just like the previous one he stuck his nose into.

Imagine if there was a God. How would these jokers in robes imagine that they speak for him or are in any way fit to pass judgement on his behalf. It's lunacy.

] SaneGoatiSwear -1 points (+0|-1) 13 hours ago you must be one card short of two threes. what a fucking moron. i remember you dick, you're one of the dumbest users on voat! derka derka! boom!

DickHertz

You are the one who started it and @atko can easily see that. Stop this crybaby otherwise you will get millions more pings every time he starts his shit and wants it to go away after he starts it.

DickHertz

@atko Here's the REAL truth this guy is a little bitch. He started harassing me with a downvoat streak in unrelated threads and then interjected himself into my conversation first. I know you can see what the REAL situation is.

Boot this little crybaby faggot.

DickHertz

@atko I'm not going to flood your box like this special triggered flower but I'm sure HE WILL.

DickHertz

@somewhatneutral don't worry @dickhertz is an alt of @derkatalog a user whose whole purpose in life is to lick my balls until the sweat's all off. just don't derka derka boom like in chelsea, derka!

@atko here you go. This is the guy crying for your help. You must see how he's just a little whinny girl that is trying to hide behind you.

DickHertz

@somewhatneutral this user's comment history is almost entirely ignorant bigoted nonsense and when he gets called out on it he runs to the teacher like a little bitch. By now you must realize he has not been to college and doesn't know a fucking thing about engineering or what happened on 9/11.

@atko please stop this user from being a bigoted little crybaby bitch.

DickHertz

@somewhatneutral don't worry I'm not an alt of anyone. This kid is just an uneducated crybaby who likes to start shit then run to the teacher like a little faggot. I'm sure there are plenty of people who realize he's a complete faggot/idiot.

DickHertz

@atko this user is a crybaby with nothing better to do than waste your time. He can dish it out but can't take it apparently.

Also he thinks you're in with the CIA - see his idiotic posts.

SomewhatNeutral

I got dumber watching this video.

0rion

Don't worry, you started pretty dumb to begin with so any gain isn't really a loss.

SomewhatNeutral

~~ ooh rekt ~~

Spark_Plugg

What specifically makes you say that?

SomewhatNeutral

It wasn't what Trump said... it's the nonsense conspiratard garbage in the video.

Fibbideh

specifically

nice specifics

SomewhatNeutral

~ building 7 was not hit by any plane ~

~ there was an explosion right before collapse ~ (it just sounds like a collapse starting?)

~ how could a person be forced out of a window and how was only one window involved? ~ (because it was the only window broken down there? The ejection was probably caused by an internal change. That also might not be a person.)

SomewhatNeutral

just letting you know that the buildings were designed to take a hit from a fully loaded plane and then some

https://cei.org/op-eds-and-articles/asbestos-fireproofing-might-have-prevented-world-trade-center-collapse

also, hundreds of eyewitness accounts and videos show demolition charges (nice and white for thermate) blowing out windows below the main debris cloud on ALL THREE BUILDINGS.

Show me.

also, explain to me how no modern steel skyscraper has ever succumbed to fire (including days on fire with no fire dept) yet when this building (due to a couple fires and a lack of sprinkler systems) did a perfect collapse into it's own footprint at freefall speeds , why did no engineering group in the world update the steel skyscrapers to not allow this to happen again?

It did not collapse in such fashion. This is how it collapsed . It took about 15 seconds. The building had a giant gash due to the collapse of the north tower. Also, it's OK for one event to be the exception to a "rule".

do you not know how WTC 1 and 2 were built? each floor has 43 interconnected steel beams in the center (where all the elevators are). that's a huge dick going straight up. then, there are perpendicular concrete floors put out from the center, which all the people stood on! you could literally destroy every single floor, but if the core columns remained, the center of the building would stand.

The building had a very 'unbalanced' supporting structure. There was massive support concentrated in the middle, and a decent part of support on the outside. Without the outside, the middle could not stand. That the tower fell onto itself is the problem, whereas the tower may not have collapsed if someone "flicked" everything above the damaged sections off to the side.

SomewhatNeutral

first source is based of NIST, which is a bunch of lies and has been debunked

Well I don't know what you want then. All I know is that the fireproofing was not in great condition and, as I read, was exaggerated by the use of a different material.

Did the fireproofing not fail? Did the floor trusses not fail?

really, you can show me a video of how building 7 collapsed (a perfect freefall into own footprint, only accomplished by demo, not by random fires) but you can't find a video of the other two towers coming down and look at it?

I was specifically addressing the claim of WTC 7 "collapsing at free fall speeds" which is a misrepresentation of what happened. One of the building's major support beams caved, which caused the inside to collapse. The exterior walls collapsed seconds later. You can see the internal collapse in the video.

are you talking about 1 and 2? you must not know anything about structural engineering.

Well from what I'm reading the exterior columns were very important parts of holding the structure.

Remember, in terms of a hypothetical partial collapse, we're not talking about the core just standing tall on its own; we're talking about the core, without support of the external columns, supporting the full, typical weight of the building above.

SomewhatNeutral

i'm sorry, "freefall speeds" is an accurate description

In the best case, you have a hollow building collapsing at "freefall speeds" which isn't that impressive.

no the exterior facade was not supporting the central columns in terms of load bearing. that's counter-intuitive.

When I mention that I'm talking about the towers, I don't know if you misunderstood me...

The towers were designed as framed tube structures, which provided tenants with open floor plans, uninterrupted by columns or walls. This was accomplished using numerous closely spaced perimeter columns to provide much of the strength to the structure, along with gravity load shared with the core columns .

SomewhatNeutral

hollow? how? there was stuff in there like floors and desks and pipes. are you saying the entire inside of the building fell in AND THEN the facade?

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying, because that's exactly what happened. Here's the video again. Look at the roof. Look at the windows busting as the inside collapses.

i understand perfectly what you're talking about. tower 1 and 2. and no, the outside facade was not supporting the load-bearing work done by the central columns. afairemember. the facade participated in keeping THE FLOORS up with the central columns, but remember, ALL FLOORS AND FACADE could be demolished, and the central core would still stand.

Well that's not what I'm reading... Paragraph 2

SomewhatNeutral

the windows busting look like thermate charge expulsions. normal. for a demo.

Or, you know, the result of being hit by something on the inside, where the building started to collapse... or strees on the left side of the building, just like how a billion windows break when the building collapses.

the roof caving in is seen in all other modern steel 'scraper demos.

But a gash couldn't. The environment of WTC 7 is simply not comparable.

piece of shit admits to pulling building seven. why? safety.

Pulling the firefighting operation? These guys knew, after seeing a bulge in southwest corner, (the same corner that you can see at 1:04 ) that the building had a high chance of collapsing. They gave up on rescuing the building and let it collapse.

DickHertz

He can't understand you. He ate lead paint chips as a kid and never went to college let alone a college of engineering. Tomorrow he'll be asking "Would you like fries with that?"

Seriously.

whisky_cat

My nigga

EdSnowden

Trump 2016