un1ty

Here's an article that might sum up some of this conversation a bit better:

http://theantimedia.org/mandatory-vaccinations-medical-freedom/

This comment is exactly how I feel talking to authoritarians like yourself posing under the guise of public safety.

The debate surrounding vaccinations is commonly framed as a moral struggle between the benefits to the collective and the selfish preferences of the individual. But since the outbreak scares of Zika, measles, and ebola, the rhetoric has taken a turn toward authoritarianism.

But whatever -

The classic exchange of freedom for perceived safety is a no brainer for the millions of Americans who are willing to use government to strap their neighbors down and forcibly inject them for the greater good.

It probably would also do nothing to point out that I am friends with a family that has vaccine damaged children, right? Because "f*ck em, that's why."

un1ty

In true form, devolved into ad hominem.

But, truthfully, why are you on a conspiracy sub dedicated to trying to think outside of the box and trying to keep people in the box?

un1ty

And we'll just ignore improvements in public sanitation and personal hygiene because... correlation of vaccines for these being created and their downfall is causation - with zero doubt? Or is there a chance that maybe both had an effect on lowering infection rates? Or maybe its all in the hygiene and sanitation?

We'll likely never know because the conversation never gets further than personal attacks and ad hominem - there is no decorum anymore.

un1ty

But at what consequence?

I am not 100% sold on either side TBH. Its not 'science' anymore, it's "ScienceĀ®-sponsored by XYZ Corp.". The FDA is literally composed of former big food, big farm, and big pharm execs and lobbyists. The CDC is no better they're a PRIVATE entity that dictates the immunization schedule and they're comprised of big pharma leaders. We all know about big pharma - they're not out to cure any of us. We can see, daily, the absolute corruption of our government and the "services" it provides.

And you blindly trust what they say to inject you and your children with?!

Not me.

markrod420

Nothing. No follow up comment where you post a link to the documents that cant be found in this article that is trying to sell me 15 different natural health products and books? I dont trust vaccines or putting heavy metal in our bodies deliberately. But this basically seems like a big product spam article if i cant get a link to the actual documents anywhere.

Looking4hope

Damnit, I gotta get ready for work but I really want to see these official documents. I'M not antivax entirely, but we do give a whole bucket load of vaccines to these kids. National Vaccine Information Center http://www.nvic.org/ They are NOT antivax. They are saying know what the fuck you are doing with these vaccines, you can do alternative schedules. MD's make bank, are given awards n shit for how many people they poke.

oedipusaurus_rex

Themiserol (sp?) contains up to 50% Hg (mercury), which is known to strip your neural lining, and cause symptoms similar to multiple sclerosis, not to mention mad hatter syndrome.

That is absolutely true. Sounds scary right?

NaCl (sodium chloride) contains 50% sodium which is a metal which reacts violently with the water in your skin causing chemical burns. The other 50% is made of chlorine which was used as a chemical weapon during WW1. It irritates the lining of your lungs causing your lungs to fill with mucous, drowning you. This is on top of the fact that chlorine is corrosive to skin and eyes, and also sometimes causes people to violently vomit up their insides.

That is also absolutely true, and sounds scary as shit, right?

Why the fuck are you putting NaCl (table salt) on your food every day?

Chemical properties change based on what they are mixed with. If you have something from a peer reviewed journal showing me that themiserol causes autism then by all means, post it. Otherwise you should learn what you are talking about before you go and try scaremongering.

markrod420

If I could find a link to the documents instead of links to books for sale i might be more interested.

Looking4hope

Yes, please

mig2k

Minuscule chance of Autism vs much greater chance of polio, hepatis, tetanism, etc etc.