rocksteadyfire

It is a distraction so they can pass TPP fast track approval.

TheyKeepOnRising

What do you mean? I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I don't follow or believe any conspiracy theories that I've seen on the internet. I am giving this theory merit by saying that as someone who doesn't grasp at straws, I feel like there is fowl play here.

Shakyamuni

Fowl play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /shakes fist

TheyKeepOnRising

OK so full disclosure, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and mostly subbed to see what kind of craziness lives here. That being said, after reviewing these vids, something really doesn't add up with the shooting. If there really was a DHS drill in the same city on the exact day of the shooting (and for the exact scenario even), that just seems to good to be coincidence. But why would they post it on their website? That seems a little amateur if they manufactured the whole event.

People do go crazy for seemingly little reason. A mental illness paired with the uncensored hate of the internet can brainwash someone into doing something horrible. I don't doubt that the shooter was a truly disturbed kid, and he may have killed those folks at the church. However, the people being interviewed, the judge, the shooter on TV being forgiven, it all feels scripted to be broadcast. I can't believe for a minute that any of that is real. The big question is who is telling these people what to say.

Politicians are going to try to take advantage of the situation, like good old robot Clinton who does what shes programmed to do. But I don't feel confident enough to say that the government is behind it all. I think so far the media has made the most profit of the event. There are definitely strings and someone is definitely pulling them, but right now its hard to say where the strings are, and who is controlling events.

ImplyingImplications

Lol no.

Not everything is a conspiracy, some guy had a psychotic break whilst also having access to guns.

A conspiracy to take guns via tragedies wouldn't work because they happen like once every two months.

And its not because the government did it. It's because your focus on mental health is shit along with your gun control >.<

MrHarryReems

While I certainly don't rule out foul play, none of these videos show any actual evidence of anything. They person who created them is basically trying to cast doubt on the video subjects by saying they look like they're scripted and faking it, and basically not convincing enough. He points to a DHS active shooter training around the same time, but again, there is no real evidence anywhere. Again, with things like the TPP sneaking under the radar while our attention was redirected, and new attention on gun control when the populace is increasingly distrustful and dissatisfied with the government certainly smells rotten, however, these videos are inconclusive at best.

ItsSwiftty023

Well the government does want gun control for when they declare martial law. All the evidence is leading up to it. So why not try to take away guns so there will be less incentive for a revolt.

Now when I say all the evidence I mean everything that has been happening within the last year leading up to this. There is still more work for them to do but they will get there from the looks of it.

eldorann

I wish I could make more people aware of the existing inconsistencies.

My parents, for example and like most people, accept the party line like good little peons. They weep and moan that so-and-so many people died. I think the truth is closer to sacrificing some peons so that other peons continue to accept enslavement and accept further restrictions on society.

Alas, my words fall on deaf ears. The other part of the audience hears the words "false flag" and immediately shut down.

Powie

Maybe it's the fact that you think of them as "good little peons". Pretentiousness is expressed through attitude, you know.

trucking_foal

Anyone have crime scene photos?

ItsSwiftty023

I dont think we will see any of that surface.

madmalloy

Smells like something is rotten to me.

Apoplectic1

I'll have to watch the videos when I get home, work blocks external video streaming.

I will say that this incident doesn't quite sit right with me. It almost feels like it was too clean, "Hey, some guy shot up a church! Hey we found him just a few hours later! Hey this violent mass murderer came quietly! Hey, look at all this supposedly racist stuff this guy had and his manifesto that was placed in a painfully obvious domain!"

It just doesn't feel like an organic turn of events if you know what I mean.

YesImLoggedIn

Wasn't it proven that his Facebook photo was photoshopped?

Apoplectic1

There is definite reason reason to believe it was, but nothing hard enough to prove it just yet I think. This post on reddit sums the case up pretty nicely so far:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3aba45/we_must_research_and_conclude_if_this_photo_of/