"Down Votes" have been used as a simple psychological tool to "create the reality" that an idea is unpopular. novel solution: ( conspiracy )

submitted by k_digi

Downvoats should spend SCP/CCP https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/160640

"Reddit" has shown that "Down Vote" has been used as a "psychological tool" to crowd out discussion and make people believe something is "unpopular" when it is not.

This is a simple psychological trick, if everyone "appears" to be down-voting something and, then most comments are negative, most other people will be "afraid" to be the odd one out and say "no i agree with this" it is simple crowd psychology.

Reddit uses this physiological tool beautifully to promote "Cat pics" and destroy discussion, I can give countless examples.

Eventually decentralized information "gets it right" that's why we have "VOAT" if Voat does not get it right we will have the next site.

however i can make you a bet:

The time differences between the "public" or the "user" figuring out which site is the "optimum" will get exponentially smaller.

I.e if "VOAT" ends up as a Donkey, it will be a very small time frame before people that want to have a discussion build a new "VOAT"

I think that a 1:1 Ratio on up down CP is good, with the 100 Set as it is.

discuss?

k_digi

Yeah have that subbed ; some of my ideas so far:

  • conditional mute, mute all from X sub but if post from X sub get Y up votes let though.
  • 1, 3 , 6, 9 neg cpp score on a downvote, (with under 100 taking away right to down vote) I.e each down vote user x does he loses 1, then 3 then 6 then 9 ccp maybe reset monthly?
  • decentralized system, make the servers run locally decentralized.
  • accept all crypto for donations and to buy "voat gold" use auto convert to convert to what devs want.

goonie

got linked here from a thread on v/askVoat and thought i'd join the discussion. i think the downvote is definitely used to control and create conformity. it's a scare tactic to prevent people from speaking contrary to the hivemind. crowd control for sure. "how do we prevent this idea from becoming popular?".. shame them ..then they use things like you said, cat pics or cat taxes, or whatever to draw their attention from important ideas.

they use entertainment instead of education/discussion to distract and deceive. that's what they do with any major conspiracy or scandal. "don't look here..look over here ".

k_digi

https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/164796

I really think this is the key, this would solve it.

Or 90% solve it.

goonie

You have really thought about this a lot haven't you? Every post I've seen you make has been really getting-to-the-bottom-of-it. Good insight. It seems like you want voat to be successful. I'm in your corner, man. Keep this stuff coming.

k_digi

This is important, I actually had an idea for a site kinda like voat, but I can't really code.

My strong point is this sort of stuff.

goonie

Agreed. I'll keep an eye out for your posts. I hope your ideas can be implemented! Let's all help shape the future of this place.

arrggg

Good point. I will stand up and say "I disagree" more often.

k_digi

take your time and scan this one:

https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/164796

Empire_of_the_mind

get off the internet

k_digi

"Improve the Internet" is what we will do.

You will be : ( about that.

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JoshuaZ

Is there a reason you feel a need to put the name Reddit in quotation marks? Do you think the website isn't actually named that or what?

k_digi

I think it is a front for NeoCIA so it's real name should be Reddit by neoCIA Corp but its only called "Reddit" for some reason?

k_digi

Ahh but you see that's actually perfectly predictable and understandable -:

If you were a bunch of "Reddit" manipulators you would have had your eyes on "r/conspiracy" for a long time, it just makes sense that they would want to Sub here in the early days (in the possible assumption that Voat would be that donkey)

so then by default they are just doing what they would do, focus on the subs with the most discussion about the topics they want buried.

Doog

Yep, and you have an up vote sir.