It's not up to you to determine if someone else can handle smoking pot or not. People are free agents. You decide what's good for you and let everyone else decide what's good for them. I'm done here.

And we all know how well prohibition worked out. Use your brain dude.

Are you fucking serious? Ativan is a benzo and has terrible withdrawal symptoms.

So how much do you think most stoners care about it's medical and other applications?

Big pharma=competition Wall St.=vig on laundering $ is 30-50%

Maybe it's illegal because it's an intoxicant. Maybe that might be a factor too.

I see what you're saying. Will you meet me at this: the public's views need to be softened prior to legalization for recreational use and that the majority of every day stoners want legalization so that they can smoke recreationally in peace?

I'm going to do a dab rn. +1

It is not a straw man. Marijuana's medical usage is reported to soften the view on the drug.

That's the overall argument, not what people say verbatim. You're wrong again

I'm almost convinced it was the dispensaries around here or one of their growers who did it. They grow all their shit indoors, and they fuck with all the outdoor residential growers so they have to buy their weed.

good question! see, in the 1850s a few asshole sociopaths colluded to stigmatize and make illegal cannabis, so their industries could profit greatly, as the OP's picture VERY VERY WELL documents. truly an amazing post (put to an awful image host that openly censors).

that sort of collusion and secret organizing to harm the public is the same thing being done on voat by the user above. the same/similar tactics are used by both to achieve nefarious self-serving and agenda-serving anti-human interests.

one is to remove access the other is to control the narrative, sure, but again, they use similar/same tactics to achieve these similarly nefarious ends.

Well prescriptions are for medical reasons, not recreational, which is why the two don't blend. Doctors will tell you it's healthier to not drink or smoke at all because they know that alcohol is literally poison and smoking causes water vapor on the lungs. They give in a little because they know people are going to do it.

I'm not someone who goes around breaking the law, I like my life to be easy. I advocate not smoking or drinking, like I've said, so that's a dishonest comment for you to make. I also do not stand for government regulation. More and more regulations is a slippery slope

So because you didn't like it, the rest of the world shouldn't do it? You would have done well during the inquisition.

Well, we've already started giving in. At this point there's no going back, we just have to look forward and work with what we've got. We can criticize it and present the problems and people hopefully will be more apt to hear it since it is a legal substance not to mention they can post effects on the pack to inform people. All in all people would be more informed about cannabis if it were legal. We shouldn't scare people away from it or control it.

How do you feel about alcohol laws working for people?

I personally feel it works for some and others it doesn't. And the ones who are crazy are typically penalized for something as a result of their poor decisions.

Poor decisions will be made by some people regardless of the substance they use

Was war on drug makes money for the govt on there?

The threat to standard oil was the main reason, hemp oil would mean we don't need them at all, trillions of lost profits for them over the years. All the other companies are secondary to the stranglehold on energy.

People won't stop clamoring for it until they get it. Unfortunately they'll continue to do what they do to society aside from the exceptions. I think once it's legal it will be easier to criticize it in a way that makes it lose its appeal. Half of Its appeal now is to subvert the law. People just get fucking triggered nowadays if you tell them they can't do something

I agree with you on the side effects and benefits. And I don't think people should be smoking pot. I just think we have to take a different approach to reach people because of the way they behave. What we're doing isn't working

Yeah, our government would save itself a big headache. I think it should be legal for recreational use too just because pro-pot people won't stop until it is.

But the pic says it, there's corporate interest in illegal marijuana

The Dutch have fairly liberal laws concerning weed, and they are doing just fine. Weed usage is very low. But if you look at alcohol and sugar, those are the real dangers when it comes down to decision making and health, yet society still tolerates and promotes the use of these substances. I'm not denying that heavy abuse impairs cognitive abilities in the long run, however, you are poorly informed if you think it will set society back to where it is now. No one died with a 'weed' overdose. It makes you hungry and sets you're little brain into thinking or giggle-mode. Becoming more open-minded, something a government fears I presume. Set aside your prejudice and look up all the benefits and side-products of hemp, and you'll be amazed. Better yet, smoke one (without your current attitude towards it) and come back to me.

You're reading way to much into pot dude. My lawyer smokes pot occasionally and he is a successful, affable guy. Pot is not evil nor does it make people complete fuck ups.

I'm with you on the nursing home thing though. Find a good woman (tall order I know) and live in middle of nowhere with her. Two live cheaper than one. And when the time comes and you're old and breaking down, do what you have to do to keep from going into a nursing home. That's my plan. Hope I have the balls to check out on my own terms when the time is right.

cannabis is illegal because it impairs decision making

tfw alcohol impairs decision making far more than cannabis and is legal

Exactly. I posted about this a few days ago. They say "Since it has medical use, I should be able to use it recreationally"

So do plenty of other things that are abused and shouldn't be: Oxycontin, Heroin, Morphine, Fentanyl, even ketamine has medical use for horses

That's the problem with democracy and freedom is that people mistake that to mean complete freewill without criticism. You can tell people they can't/shouldn't sit around and smoke weed all day, but because of these ideals you get this : "You can't tell me that I can't smoke weed all day man. It's my choice"

Lots of people do it just to subvert laws, and you can't say anything, so fuck it make it legal, tax it and let them continue to smoke weed and do nothing. Maybe when its legal we can run ads against it like smoking and people will see how much it cripples their motivation

This has to be satire. Right? RIGHT?

Adam ruins everything - the sinister reason weed is illegal https://youtu.be/sXPOw2unxy0

yup, but your dumb ass posted to a known censor.

see that derram link down there?

imgoat is better, but catbox is ok i suppose.

posting to imgoat is lazy and intellectually treasonous to the (past) idea of voat (it's dead now, run by shills and owned by most probably conde nast)

Eventually it will be legal, then all those companies will be the ones growing the weed in massive 40 floor massive grow ops on an industrial scale, prolly spraying it with god knows what the fuck kind of additives and shit all over it. Blaze up and bong toke while you can now, weed just might be weird in a few decades or less.

Wouldn't all those companies just use cannabis to make all those things? If it is cheaper or better that means more profits. You could technically make clothes out of human hair, that does not mean human hair is a threat to cotton. I bet now that cannabis is legal in some states it won't be used for any of those things. Except medicine.

non-imgur link: https://files.catbox.moe/gl0s9k.jpg

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