Naught405

Its too bad most documentaries have become 'this corporation's agenda as pertaining to <insert topic>'

Calorie-Kin

As an Israeli who is center-left for the most part, I think this is wrong. Like very wrong. Israel did some things right, and some things not very right but influencing the public's opinions using some kind of secretive agreement is wrong. Call me naive, but I believe that truth finds a way and this hack/leak is living proof of that.

But I should also mention that the article is biased and shows data that it doesn't back up. The New York Times mentioned that about 60,000 people were left homeless, and this article twisted it to 150,000 without a source. Also using words like "brutal assault" are less than professional in this sensitive context.

RedHawk

Is it a problem I consider them every bit as bad as the Palestinians?

Yes it is. The Palestinians are the righteous side here. They are the victim of a racist and fascist regime calling itself Israel.

giskard

If only the Palestinian leadership were not exploiting the tragedies of unceasing conflicts with Israel in order to bolster their own bank accounts at the expense of their own people.

RedHawk

There is no real Palestinian leadership, we should support the Palestinian resistance or any movement to end Zionism.

giskard

The only resistance in Palestine is the resistance to a normal, prosperous life by the PLO, Fatah, Hamas, and many other jihadist groups who claim to act in the best interests of their constituents. How are these groups helping the Palestinians in Syria? What happened in Jordan during Black September? Palestinians in Jordan go to work, play video games, accidentally impregnate their girlfriends and force them to have abortions, and comment on internet message boards in their spare time from being oppressed by the Jews.

KingCactus

Palestinians in Jordan go to work, play video games, accidentally impregnate their girlfriends and force them to have abortions, and comment on internet message boards in their spare time from being oppressed by the Jews.

Holy shit. You're like a Jewish Archie Bunker.

giskard

Why wouldn't they make a documentary exposing antisemitic propaganda. It's alive and well on this very website. Are you afraid the finger will point at you?

RedHawk

Looks like someone doesnt know the difference between antisemitism and anti-Zionism.

Even not recognizing Israel is anti-Zionist and not anti-semitic.

Anyway, well done - the effort by Sony and other Zionists has achieved its objective with you.

giskard

Every email in the article in question specifically refers to making a documentary against antisemitism. The only one making connections to anti-Zionism is the author of the article and you because you are a believer in Arab/Nazi propaganda.

Zen0

The Hollywood propaganda machine has been operating for decades and will continue to perpetuate unjustified support for Israel so long as America is succumbed by a celebrity culture. Unfortunately, the masses take what their favorite celebrities say for fact, as if their popularity and aesthetics legitimize them as experts on any given situation, political or otherwise.

It's hard to think critically for yourself... might as well adopt the opinion of the attractive men and women in movies and television. /s

Fortunately, some musicians are willing to speak out against the Human rights violations committed by Israel

boazdm

Hypocrisy 101

Fortunately, some musicians are willing to speak out against the Human rights violations committed by Israel

Those musicians speak out against Israel because it makes them popular with the anti-Israel crowd... Same reason the Hollywooders speak out for Israel.

Where are Thurston Moore and his buddies when it comes to speaking out against the genocide in Darfur? Syria? Chechnya? Ukraine? Human rights in China?

That's right - silent.

Israel is just a "hip" topic, whether you are trash talking or supporting it - it will put you in the media spotlight. Thurston Moore doesn't actually give two shits about the Palestinians - he just wants to be relevant.

giskard

Notice that none of these people will bring up the brutal repression that exists in Saudi Arabian society or their bloodthirsty conquest of the Hejaz and Nejd.

Unchosen1

The old "if you don't fight every injustice, you shouldn't fight any " argument.

Better tell all those cancer researchers to shut it down, its not like they're curing HIV, dementia, or MS.

boazdm

That's what we call a straw man. You make an argument for me (which I didn't make), and then proceed to say how stupid the argument is.

Unchosen1

Where are Thurston Moore and his buddies when it comes to speaking out against the genocide in Darfur? Syria? Chechnya? Ukraine? Human rights in China?

That's right - silent.

What does what is happening in any of these places have to do with Israel?

You made a value judgement here. You suggest that the worh of an argument against Israels actions is directly related to arguments made against events in other regions. You discount a specific criticism because it is not made in the context of wider criticism.

It's not a straw man, its argument by analogy.

boazdm

What does what is happening in any of these places have to do with Israel?

What does what's happening in Israel have anything to do with Thurston Moore?

Why has Thurston chosen to bash Israel, out of all places?

You discount a specific criticism because it is not made in the context of wider criticism.

No .

Basic reading comprehension... I'm dismissing his opinion because he is:

  1. Doing it for personal gain

  2. Not an authority on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Seriously, what the fuck does some British pop-star know about Middle Eastern politics/history?

Why are you on one hand dismissing celebrity's praise of Israel as "they don't know what they're talking about" / "Zionist shills?" Yet taking any celebrity's criticism of Israel as gospel?

Is it possible that you're an Israel hater yourself, and this just jives with your narrative?

Unchosen1

Why are you on one hand dismissing celebrity's praise of Israel as "they don't know what they're talking about" / "Zionist shills?" Yet taking any celebrity's criticism of Israel as gospel?

You know nothing about me, my politics or my motivation, only that I reject your discounting of criticism of Israel based on a lack of criticism of other places.

Now who is making straw men? My comments have been specifically about your assertion that a lack of interest in China, Darfur etc. I believe this is a cheap tactic to discredit an argument

But seeing as though you now want to stoop to calling me an "Israel hater" already, I think the mask has finally come off, and your motivations here become clear

COUSCOUS

nice call-out on that shill :)

Unchosen1

Ha, cheers.

At least this guy was clever enough to try calling me an Israel hater rather than an antisemite. They're learning...

COUSCOUS

lol, I have noticed the learning as well, but then, so do we. :)

flock-o-turtles

S/ right? Seriously, I can't tell.

FWIW I'm not ok with the Zionist destruction of Palestine and more than that I am vehemently opposed to sending US tax dollars to Israel so that they can continue their crimes against humanity.

flock-o-turtles

Israels image is beyond repair at this point.