Tallest_Skil

Who that uses it medically can get relief from just smoking plant buds?

Exactly. So ban the use thereof.

Do you think its some ridiculous sort of hippie magic that works in homeopathic doses?

Maybe you should read posts before replying to them.

Tallest_Skil

No medical use of marijuana products involves smoking it. Eat shit, you fucking degerates. You're a universal increase on the rest of the world's healthcare costs.

SuperShilly

This is great lol. "Weed is the problem guys"

Tallest_Skil

Nice strawman. Try harder and with an actual argument, dipshit.

Tallest_Skil

WAAAAAAAA I HAVE NO ARGUMENT AND NO EVIDENCE FOR MY CLAIMS SO I'LL USE THE SOCIALISTS' MOST COMMON LOGICAL FALLACY WHEREIN I CLAIM THAT BECAUSE MY OPPONENT DOESN'T WANT A SPECIFIC INSTANCE OF [THING] TO OCCUR, THAT MUST MEAN HE DOESN'T WANT [THING] TO HAPPEN EVER AT ALL WAAAAAAAAA

Please do try harder.

Tallest_Skil

So you have no argument and no evidence. Got it. Fuck off, degenerate.

Tallest_Skil

Stoners need to fuck the hell off.

MrPim

Do you have a problem w adults smoking pot for recreation?

Tallest_Skil

Yeah, that'd be implied by actually reading what I posted.

placoid

They'd love to, it's the government that's going after them.

Ohsoedgy

Care to elaborate why?

Tallest_Skil

Same reason as smoking and excessive drink: it's genocidal behavior pushed by a specific group.

Brain Changes Are Associated with Casual Marijuana Use in Young Adults http://www.sfn.org/Press-Room/News-Release-Archives/2014/Brain-Changes-Are-Associated-with-Casual-Marijuana-Use-in-Young-Adults

Cannabis Dependence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_dependence

Cannabis Smoking 'Permanently Lowers IQ' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9426205/Cannabis-smoking-permanently-lowers-IQ.html

Cannabis Use, Abuse, and Dependence http://www.netce.com/coursecontent.php?courseid=852

Cannabis Use and Risk of Lung Cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

Cannabis Use Steals 8 IQ Points from the Teenage Mind http://www.westernspring.co.uk/cannabis-use-steals-8-iq-points-from-the-teenage-mind/

Decreased dopamine brain reactivity in marijuana abusers is associated with negative emotionality and addiction severity http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/07/10/1411228111.abstract

Effects of Marijuana Smoking on Pulmonary Function and Respiratory Complications http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2720277/

The Health Effects of Marijuana http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.-Lya.htm

Long and Short Term Effects of Marijuana Use http://www.theroadout.org/drug_information/marijuana/long_and_short_term_effects_of_marijuana_use.html

Longtime Marijuana Use Linked With Decreased Motivation, Study Finds http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/02/marijuana-motivation-longtime-use-pot_n_3534031.html?ir=Healthy+Living

Marijuana http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Marijuana

Marijuana May Cause Heart Problems in Young Adults https://uk.news.yahoo.com/marijuana-may-cause-heart-problems-young-adults-195750879.html#SFmiiCx

Marijuana Said to Trigger Heart Attacks http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/marijuana.html

Marijuana Smoking Tied to Testicular Cancer http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-marijuana-cancer-idUSBRE88A03720120911

Marijuana Use and Risk of Lung Cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283/

Persistent Cannabis Users Show Neuropsychological Decline from Childhood to Midlife http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/08/22/1206820109.short

Review of the Validity and Significance of Cannabis Withdrawal Syndrome http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=177137#SEC6

Regular Marijuana Use Bad for Teens’ Brains http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/621566/

Regular Pot Smokers Have Shrunken Brains, Study Says http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-regular-marijuana-shrinks-brain-20141110-story.html

Respiratory Effects of Marijuana and Tobacco Use in a U.S. Sample http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1525-1497.2004.40081.x/full

Teen Marijuana Use Linked with Schizophrenia http://www.futurity.org/teen-marijuana-abuse/

Teens Who Smoke Weed Daily are 60% Less Likely to Complete High School Than Those Who Never Use http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/09/study-teens-who-smoke-weed-daily-are-60-less-likely-to-complete-high-school-than-those-who-never-use

The Terrible Truth About Cannabis http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782906/The-terrible-truth-cannabis-British-expert-s-devastating-20-year-study-finally-demolishes-claims-smoking-pot-harmless.html

PraiseIPU

So its as bad as alcohol then?

Shouldn't it be the choice of the user though to take the risk not the government to decide for them?

Tallest_Skil

No, since decisions made under the influence thereof can negatively affect others up to and including death. If it was simply a matter of committing suicide while raising everyone else's healthcare costs, I'd demand the extra bill be footed by the degenerates. But it's a matter of the potential death of others.

Fiacre54

Using this argument guns should be illegal as well or the gun manufacturers should be held responsible for the misuse of guns. Sorry, but you cannot put padding on every sharp corner the world has. Alcohol and tobacco use are costing the country billions of dollars in healthcare costs. Legalizing Cannabis provides a much safer alternative with documented health benefits. Certainly there are side effects to abusing the drug, but abusing food is by far the worst health problem this country has and I don't think you want to legislate how much food people are allowed to consume. At some point, we just need to educate adults to the consequences and let them make their own decisions.

Tallest_Skil

At some point you ban things that cost everyone in the society. Get the fuck over it, degenerate.

Fiacre54

I really like your use of mostly legitimate links to make your case. Name calling makes you look foolish.

Banning things in a free society leads to the creation of a criminal element when there is demand in the society. Banning alcohol is a fantastic example of how legalizing and regulating something minimizes harm. It does not Banning illegal drugs has created a ruthless criminal element and unregulated use with rampant misinformation has caused much greater misery than regulating and treating those adults that cannot handle responsibility.

Finally, being a criminal is banned, but millions of people seem to be able to do it. Banning things is not the answer.

Tallest_Skil

I really like your use of mostly legitimate links to make your case.

Prove them wrong or fuck off, then.

Name calling makes you look foolish.

No one gives a shit. You have no argument. There is no name calling.

Banning things in a free society

Truth is more important than freedom.

leads to the creation of a criminal element when there is demand in the society.

That’s what the death penalty is for. Take your ancap bullshit and fuck off to North Korea.

Finally, being a criminal is banned, but millions of people seem to be able to do it. Banning things is not the answer.

This is how retarded you actually are. This is what you think sane people will believe. “HURR YOU CAN’T STOP PEOPLE FROM STEALING SO WE SHOULD LEGALIZE THEFT AND JUST REGULATE IT HURRRRRRRRRRRR” For fuck’s sake, you goddamn dipshit. Libertarianism is a marxist ideology. Anarcho-capitalism DOESN’T WORK in any society. You need to read a fucking book (try anything by Socrates or Bastiat).

Fiacre54

There are clear risks associated with Cannabis use, however those risks have only been assessed by correlation studies of people who voluntarily disclose illegal drug use because the schedule I classification of Cannabis prevents medical research from being done on it.

All the rest of your post must be a troll and is not worth responding to. You tried a little too hard.

Tallest_Skil

You still have no argument whatsoever. The risks are quite plainly understood, after decades of study.

Fiacre54

Every single one of the studies that you linked are from patients that had a problem, were asked about drug use, and told the doctor that they smoke pot. That is not how actual medical research is done on pharmaceuticals. Unfortunately, the schedule I classification prevents double blind placebo controlled studies from finding both the benefits and side effects of Cannabis use. We must rely on correlation studies until that classification is changed.

Although there are the thousands of years of Cannabis use without a reported death from acute toxicity while alcohol is legal. You can go to the liquor store and buy enough booze to drink yourself to death tonight. Could you please go to the liquor store and drink yourself to death tonight? Thanks.

dontdoxxmefaggots

you sound like some liberal faggot nigger-lover who wants to control peoples' lives

fuck off you fucking nigger

Tallest_Skil

Not an argument, pothead. All liberals should be hanged from lampposts.

dontdoxxmefaggots

sounds like you resort to violence to make people live life how you think they should

typical liberal nigger loving faggot

Tallest_Skil

Thanks for admitting you have no argument. The NAP says that stoners will hang.

dontdoxxmefaggots

i'll smoke as much weed as i want, and if you try to stop me i'll fucking kill your nigger-loving ass

Tallest_Skil

implying you won’t just stumble around like a lunatic and be mowed down by gunfire

dontdoxxmefaggots

you have a strange idea of what the effects of weed are

Tallest_Skil

Said the degenerate stoner.