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COUSCOUS

Wow, notice all the downvotes? LOL, love it when the shills get their fee fee's in a knot.

000cccpcharm

the "shills" were here before the doors even opened....

000cccpcharm

only my eyes can see me

carbanara

Welcome to Voat!

reed

I've been here for 11 months (this isn't my only account). I still don't get it.

COUSCOUS

Oh look, you have annoyed some shills. LOL, their Feefee's have been hurt. Downvotes only really affect the shills. remember that.

k_digi

I love watching them flounder, they definitely are feeling the hurt here without vote crowding, because they LOOK like shills, because they have no fake consensus, if voat doesn't take action on the down vote spends ccp thing they will slowly get an upper hand, go over and look at v/space supposedly over 10k people sub there, there are about 15 guys there posting NASA news.

However potential all those 9900 accounts will have a down vote, think about that.

That's when someone needs to fork the voat code and start again.

doctorshlomo

Honest question-if we can control shill accounts with downvoats, what's to keep them from brigading legit users and bringing our CCP under 100?

Frank_Castle

You must be a pure delight in person. I imagine you have countless human-to-human interactions, full of meaning and purpose.

snakepaws

What kills me is, dude wants to talk about people being shills, then goes on to attack you for trying to figure out what the hell he's talking about (in a civil and sincere way). I still have no idea, but I'd much rather interact with the people in that other thread than interact with him any further. Either that, or his troll game needs work.

Frank_Castle

lol, what's your issue man? I was just asking an honest question...

escapefromreddit

Hopefully they aren't able to weasel their way into positions of power here. If this occurs, and I believe it will occur quickly, we will see the first test of Voat's ability to thwart this kind of thing. This is an interesting experiment

k_digi

Agreed Voat has the distinct upper hand, however it need to keep it, oh they will try, they will even try some more pressure above below I.e attack one dev and offer cash to the other. Lol

GizaDog

I like Shills. Programmed Rocks!

COUSCOUS

hey there, Look up a few posts to u/yukken. Apparently, according to him, we are shills. Isn't that sweet. we have already been put on a list. TPTB do care.

GizaDog

LOL. I must have hit a shill nerve with my above comment. They issued me a few down votes. I'm hurt inside.

COUSCOUS

shaking in my boots here. lol

Frank_Castle

I've been on the site for a month or two, but I just created this account so I wouldn't have the same username as my reddit account.

Anyway, so how does the attitude in the linked comments make any of them shills?

Frank_Castle

Maybe I'm blind / naive but which comments are by shills?

Yukken

It's usually the users attempting to argue or disagree with you while belittling you at the same time. They usually post a bunch of crappy content onto subs too. I find it's the people being overly rude or attempting to make you feel like a complete idiot.

I suspect Couscous and Gizadog to be shills at first glance. You'll get better at distinguishing between them the more you lurk and simply analyze.

Keep in mind Voat didn't have many shills just a few weeks ago, and it wasn't intimidating to give your commentary and opinions. The discussions were actually fun to engage in, and I felt welcome. Now, I'm seeing the same shit here that I saw on Reddit. /:

COUSCOUS

Aaaw, you mentioned me. That does prove you care. Whilst you are creating a National hero from my undeserving frame, would you care to expand on your delicious accusations? Could you explain why you yourself like the Conspiracy sub? Could you tell me which conspiracies you think are true? This is a serious question, I truly would like to know exactly why you are here. Because quite frankly my dear, I have been here somewhat longer than you.So would you like to continue this?

Mumberthrax

You need to quit trolling. This sort of conduct does not benefit our community in any way.

COUSCOUS

Dang, there goes my social life. :)

Edit, though in my defense, they did just call me a shill from a new account.

snakepaws

That's what I'm trying to figure out...

Karnivor

The ones OP disagrees with..

lovemeplz

I think it's the complete lack of discussion and one sentence (or not even) quips about the article (to gain upvotes).
Maybe I'm wrong.

Warden

I think the jokes about the guy killing himself. Could be wrong though.

Frank_Castle

I mean, sure the OP has a dark sense of humor - but how does that make him/her a shill?

Bainshie

Because anyone who believes the entire medical knowledge of the last 50 ears MUST BE A SHRILL!

Dissident_Aggressor

They're being paid off by the Comedian corporation to make jokes about things so that people feel like it's appropriate to joke about things - a most insidious plot, to be sure. :|

mising

My guess is that OP doesn't understand the meaning of shill and actually meant troll. Or maybe he is suggesting they are shills for drug companies that produce vaccines? I'm just guessing here because I am pretty confused by the post as well.

Warden

I don't even know either, maybe OP should've linked the actual shill comment.

Mumberthrax

Jesus, I would not have expected that so quickly. All Most of the accounts are around 15-17 days old, so about the time of the recent FPH influx. A shame that they're dominating the culture now when previously people wouldn't be cracking jokes over a death (possible suicide) and attacking people for being concerned about vaccine safety.

Edit: As of now, four hours later, the top comments are now no longer all the ones attacking and laughing at Jeff Bradstreet. When I made my comment here originally, almost all of the comments on that discussion page were people celebrating the man's death, implying he was mentally ill because of his stance on vaccines.

lawofchaos

Yeah it feels a little bit like this site became 50% FPH overnight sometimes. This was an awesome place for discussion. Now it still is an awesome place for discussion but there's always got to be some asshole or troll around too. You've got to live a pretty sad life to devote so much of it to your dislike of fat people that you can't take anything seriously anymore.

The_Penis_Wizard

Well, it kinda did. So many people came from FPH that it crashed the site.

You've got to live a pretty sad life to devote so much of it to your dislike of fat people that you can't take anything seriously anymore.

No idea what you're on about. Those comments have nothing to do with fat people. Not even sure what you're getting at. There's no connection between hating fat people and not taking something seriously.

lawofchaos

What I mean is that they are generally actually just trolls. They spend so much time ragging on fat people that if you confront them about it you're likely to be met with an empty headed "lol" and a few downvoats. They don't even take themselves seriously enough for a person to successfully call them pieces of shit.

Mumberthrax

I don't know what the average FPH person is like, but I just can't abide bigotry of any sort. It's harmful to the very notion of the growth of human cognition. Anyway, not all of the folks who came over were from that subreddit, a lot of new faces who just want a place that isn't suffering from all of the ills reddit is.

I've been advised by a few people that most of the more trollish users will probably slack off and find other places after the novelty of Voat wears off for them, and I hope that is the case. I don't mean to imply by mentioning the age of the accounts that these people are associated with FPH, just that it was a big event that got Voat a lot of attention, so it makes sense that trolls and possibly propagandists/shills may have come by to set up shop where their voices may have influence.

The_Penis_Wizard

but I just can't abide bigotry of any sort.

You're in /v/conspiracy . With its hatred of jews "zionist shills."

Mumberthrax

You may be thinking of the bigotry that occasionally happens in /r/conspiracy . /v/conspiracy is generally different.

Yes there are some people who post here who may believe or suspect that there are Jewish conspiracies or that Zionists are astroturfing (I think that it's important to be clear about the difference between Jewish and Zionist - one is an ethnicity while the other is a political ideology, but there is definitely overlap). These people do not necessarily represent the majority of the people who post and comment here.

Discussion about these sorts of conspiracy theories is fine in my opinion. When it becomes bigoted, that's when I have a problem with it.

The_Penis_Wizard

Even in this thread. There's a guy talking about whoring for shekels. It's definitely here on this subverse too. There's a post on the frontpage now calling them shills.

Mumberthrax

You know I overlooked the shekel comment. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I've warned the user and documented the warning.

Are you referring to this post?: Trolls are attempting to poison this sub just like on reddit.

lawofchaos

I don't know what the average FPH person is like, but I just can't abide bigotry of any sort. It's harmful to the very notion of the growth of human cognition.

I agree fully. It's no different to racism or sexism or any other irrational mindset that causes people to have prejudice towards someone that they don't even know personally. I cannot claim to know a FPH person either but they are less deserving of the benefit of the doubt in my opinion. You've got a good point though, that any movement would be attractive to trolls whether it's for or against fat people, thin people. green people.

VictorSteinerDavion

concerned about vaccine safety

I hate how this somehow makes you antivax. (I'm not against vaccinations btw, just suspicious)

It's like calling monsanto evil cunts makes you an anti-gmo anti science freak.

I'm ok with people cracking jokes (of any quality) about someones death, but it should be in a place people expect to see that type of comment. /v/news is not the place for it.

COUSCOUS

it's the same as calling people anti-semites for questioning truths. It's designed to elicit an emotional response from everyone else. But it has been overused, and people are becoming more aware. :)

COUSCOUS

Of course they are here. Gotta earn them whore shekels. Just downvote. simple. If you want to have fun with them also, then that is awesome, just engage them, and drag them away from the main conversation. They do not like to lose (it looks bad) so you waste their time. :)

Mumberthrax

Gotta earn them whore shekels.

Hey, so I want to make sure you're aware of this rule in our sidebar:

Rule 2: No overt attacks on people's race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, or creed

I'd like to ask you to please keep it in mind in the future when commenting or posting on /v/conspiracy . Our community decided a while back that we don't want bigotry here. Criticism of Israel is fine, but racism is not.

COUSCOUS

Fair enough, though I will point out, nothing I have stated is racist or religiousist. Shekels is criticism of zionist and isreali ideals. I will make this obvious next time. Thank you for your pleasant warning.

Mumberthrax

Right on. Thanks. It's a tricky subject - it's hard to tell what is and isn't intended to be bigoted, and even harder to tell what might be perceived as such. Couple this with the fact that our subverse is intended to cater to discussion of conspiracy theories of which the "evil jew" conspiracy is one with a not-insignificant following, so balancing censorship and civility on anything Jewish is not fun from a moderation perspective. :P

COUSCOUS

I understand completely. You worded the warning fairly, and I do not envy your probably regular unpaid moderator headaches. Have a good one. :)

robertrobot

I can't f***ing downvote these blood suckers

COUSCOUS

have an upvote. :) You will get there soon. :) and then, Pow! straight in the kisser!

Warden

Pao! straight in the kisser!