Detente01

Im not justifying anything. I am just saying I am not a pedophile by the very definition of pedophile ie adult attracted to prepubescent child.

If you don't think there is a difference between having sex with a prepubescent 9 year old girl and a post pubescent 17 and a half year old girl, the problem is you not me.

The DSM, doctors, psychologists, and most importantly THE LAW, specifically says that attraction to post pubescent females is NOT PEDOPHILIA. It is Hebephilia or Ehebephilia.

Also under law attraction is not a crime. Looking is not a crime. Fantasy is not a crime. Images of non nude underage females is not a crime.

The only crime is acting on the urges. Since the AOC is 16 where I live, and I only have sex with 16 year old girls, I am not and never have committed a crime.

So I am not a criminal nor a pedophile and you can shove your relativistic morals up your arse. 90% of heterosexual males are maximally attracted to 16 year old girls and just suppress it because society has been taken over by hags and female supremacists who to force men to have sex with them, have banned men having sex with anyone else, and forced men to go against their biological nature and fuck old hags out of desperation.

Azagthoth

This will ONLY get worse as the population here grows and grows. We will just have to always keep a watchful eye for anyone baiting you into a pointless argument or sidetrack you from the topic at hand. DONT FALL FOR IT. I'm impressed by how well trolls are cast out here as opposed to other websites i've been a member of. I've only been a member here for an hour and im impressed so far with what I see. Dont let these jtrig mafia wannabe bitches get the better of you.

Gimme_Shelter

I'm sorry but this sounds like a conspiracy ...

Yukken

Is that why I've been seeing total garbage in this sub all of a sudden? Now I really have to dig to find anything worth while. Ugh.

COUSCOUS

all of a sudden? you are a new account.

ItsSwiftty023

Yeah I have been noticing that.

SwimmingInAFishbowl

Ironic OP is ironic.

The pest way to kill trolls is starvation. A meta post like yours is a 3 course meal for trolls.

Detente01

•A person who has not yet passed through puberty

So if someone has sex with an underdeveloped 40 year old woman they are a pedophile?

•A person below the age of majority (age your country officially classes you as an adult)

So child actually has no meaning because it varies from state to state and country to country.

The word pedophile has only a single meaning. Predominant sexual attraction to a prepubescent child.

Not just child, but prepubescent child. That is the actual real life definition as per the DSM doctors pyschologists and THE LAW.

As for your definition it is not actually two separate definitions but two parts to the same definition.

A child is a person who has not yet passed through puberty OR a person below the age of majority WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

creep

Just downvote and ignore them.

sodaphish

...I suspect this thread is a troll to bring out the anti-semitic types. its #shillception.

pm_me_firearms

I'm a troll. But I have no ulterior motive. I just like to see people rage. I'm not even that good at it. Maybe I should make a subverse.

RedHawk

JDL should be ignored, if someone is actively trolling then the mods should ban them.

IdSay

see, this is the point i'd like to see who dealt the downvoats. cause honestly, i don't see a reason to downvoat you speaking the facts. people are always a bit more high and mighty/heinous, when what they do aren't pinned on them in any way.

Kabuthunk

Unfortunately, as with on Reddit, you need to be cautious about what you read in here. It never hurts to do your own research on the subjects that interest you.

And odds are, if a story seems bizarrely out of place, there's probably a good reason why.

0hSoDefiant

Well, I started a Zionist Occupied Government /v/zog sub, and I couldn't give a fuck about labels. Truth, exposing criminality wherever it is and bringing justice in any way is a higher virtue than label reading.

rape_train

It's not just this sub, there are people all over Voat who are either trolling or belong in an institution.

I had someone telling me I was pro-slavery because I believed that access to clean water was a human right.

Azagthoth

So many people are indoctrinated with Hegelian Dialectic, that they automatically must choose the opposing side, or put you into the polar opposite, because they can't fathom a social issue as anything other than black or what...there is no spectrum of possibility for anything. Its a lose/lose conquer us tactic thats been bred into us for ages now. In order to break out of the paradigm it starts here.

GeorgeMcFly

It sounds like he had a very weird take on it. I think it is interesting to listen to other perspectives. It is even good to agree to disagree. I would not mind seeing that exchange and even commenting. It sounds interesting.

ToiletWaterIsWater

That means it's working, just ignore them and carry on, hate to say this in the same sentence but.. ...keep calm!

Taka

Anyone who throws around the anti-semite label is a tool. You don't have to hate Jews to hate what the Zionists are doing.

shmegegy

nobody is 'throwing it around', and 'tools'? so tension. much divide. wow. dividing and calling out religions and ethnic groups is your idea of conspiracy.. got it.

Detente01

What religion or ethnic group did he call out? Hint Zionist is not a religion or ethnic group.

000cccpcharm

know you enemy by their job title and or occupation

Fact_Checking_Alien

Just kinda sayin, guys, as an outside observer the majority of shit that goes on here seems like trollposting. I am definitely the Scully to these X-files, in this equation.

I-am-a-monster-AMA

Okay, but Mulder was right.

Fact_Checking_Alien

And we have the NSA. It's more or less certain everyone in government with power is out for themselves, especially law enforcement. What I'm saying is, some of the notions and ideas are not inherently wrong. The methods and ways of going about them, and lack of critical thought, often lead to wild theories that can't possibly be proved.

If you have watched X-files, or care to recently, Mulder was often "right" more by accident than design. Though he had knowledge and sometimes a system, there was more art than design in his thought. Which is to say, probabilities by induction where the real empirical work was done by Scully.

A lot of people see patterns. Humans are good at that. Whether or not those patterns really mean something? This sub is not so good at that part. Trying to play that role only grabs you downvotes, however, as you're not a "true believer". I want to believe. I'm just not easily convinced.

It's also certain that, in terms of social theory, replacing the function if an organization is more effective than trying to change it internally. Yet most often the sort of response is an armchair "Eh fuck it I got my guns".

bLuDcLoT_BARN

The antisemite label will always be associated with 'conspiracy theorists', anyone who criticizes Israel/The Jews/Zionism will be branded antisemitic - it's pathetic. Do you really care?

Azagthoth

The conflicting thing for me is I was bullied ruthlessly for being jewish in elementary school just because my mothers side are Jews, but this doesn't make me one. I fucking absolutely HATE anyone who verbally spews the "you're an anti-semite" knee-jerk reaction towards someone. It absolutely proves their ignorance and or side they have chosen.

Its just a shame that so many people don't realize that they are not on your side, you are not one of them. They dont like you.

You have a responsibility here to spot and call the bullshit as you see it. If someone says "anti-semite", you disregard those fools and let them yell at themselves in their own echo chamber of bullshit lies.

bLuDcLoT_BARN

Nobody should be mercilessly bullied for their religion/heritage, but also I'm not of the view that users such as shmegegy should be blindly defending Jews calling 'hate speech', his first post to me told me to fuck off (since deleted). If you check his post history the 3rd highest rated post is a condescending post stating 'hey I heard there's a site for people like you that prefer a 'safe' place where big brother keeps you away from content that might be dangerous for you.' Then he bitches and whines about 'trolls', 'hate speech' and being abusive - Nobody is above criticism.

obama2016nazi

Palestinian People are 'Semites', yet they have been Mass Murdered by ZIONISM, who are NOT Semites.

Zionism begat from UK in 1700's to colonize earth, and has not a damn thing to do with Judaism.

Majority of Good Jewish People on earth are NOT in support of Zionist Imperial Murder of the World.

escapefromreddit

My question is this - why do we use the term "conspiracy"? I know it fits, of course, but why play it to their weaponized dichotomy? Why not v/alternativenews or v/alternativemedia or something along those lines. Sure, it will suffer the same attacks I guess I just wonder if calling this kind of news and research "conspiracy" plays into their narrative or not, love to hear thoughts on this though

ChanceofRain

.... "In January 1967, shortly after Jim Garrison in New Orleans had started his prosecution of the CIA backgrounds of the murder, the CIA published a memo to all its stations, suggesting the use of the term “conspiracy theorists” for everyone criticizing the Warren Report findings. Until then the press and the public mostly used the term “assassination theories” when it came to alternative views of the “lone nut” Lee Harvey Oswald. But with this memo this changed and very soon “conspiracy theories” became what it is until today: a term to smear, denounce and defame anyone who dares to speak about any crime committed by the state, military or intelligence services. Before Edward Snowden anyone claiming a kind of total surveillance of internet and phone traffic would have been named a conspiracy nut; today everyone knows better." -- Mathias Broeckers, a German investigative journalist and author and writer for the daily German newspaper TAZ and the webzine Telepolis.

Mumberthrax

I tend to like the phrase "deep politics" personally. But I think that it would be better if instead of rebranding entirely we made the term something worthy of respect.

pilgrimboy14

Very rarely (I can't think of one) can a word be redeemed.

Mumberthrax

I'm not an historian of language, but from what I understand connotations change all the time.

pilgrimboy14

They do. But we're talking here about something with a serious bad connotation being considered good by those who view it negatively.

Mumberthrax

It definitely would be an interesting journey.

taKe

I agree.

shmegegy

there are plenty of jews in israel that are against government policies that arent labelled anti-semitic or conspiracy theorists. this shit has nothing to do with this sub. it's politics.

jervybingly

Yes, many rabbis have have made anti-zionist statements that would get a goy branded as AS and attacked, physically, or online. When a Jew makes anti-zionist remarks he/she is labelled a self-hating Jew. A few years ago during the Christmas offensive against Lebanon, 100 prominent Jews in the UK took out a full-page newspaper ad calling for the IDF to stop the offensive. They were immediately labeled self-hating Jews by the Anti-Defamation League.

bLuDcLoT_BARN

Don't cry, if you learn to read - I didn't insult you just pointed out a fact. Those Jews are called self-hating Jews by their brethren. I've seen your whiney posts on Reddit, obviously you do care. Oh no the trolls are coming.. Victim mentality, get over yourself - this place is for conspiracies and some of them will be about Jews whether you like it or not.

shmegegy

ooh tension and division! I know a group that does that.

what other religions or ethnic groups are conspiracies often posted about? it's blatant poisoning. we know mods at redditt were doing it to r/conspiracy to poison it, are you defending the mods at reddit and their tactics now?

Detente01

Muslims taking over mighty whites land Chinese taking over the world rapey Indians the list goes on want me to continue?

shmegegy

Who is saying that Indians are conspiring to rape your daughter? It's also ignorant to scapegoat all muslims for political actions of some people who also happen to be muslim.

Detente01

You will find some people who scapegoat all Jews for the genocidal actions of the Zionist Israeli state but the majority of those who criticism Israel for genociding Palestinians are not anti Semites. For one Palestinians are Semites and Jews probably are not. More likely they are Ashkenazi.

Yet here you are trying to broadbrush criticism of Israel as anti Jew.

shmegegy

genociding Palestinians

Are you claiming a conspiracy for some jews to genocide palestinians? you mean like secretlly digging tunnels to attack them from, and firing rockets into civilian areas? those kind of conspiracies. I guess it's alright to post that here.

criticism of israel likely belongs in v/politics, and not conspiracy

Detente01

Your words not mine.

It is not Jewish conspiracy but Israeli nationalist conspiracy to genocide Palestinians.

shmegegy

I think that's evidently ridiculous. Post what you have about such a national conspiracy then, I've seen nothing.

Meanwhile I could post about a conspiracy with UNRWA and Hamas to allow weapons to be place in it's facilities, but then I call out Hamas, and not scapegoat palestinians or arabs. Let's try it.

Detente01

Hamas to allow weapons to be place in it's facilities

So Palestinians, alone out of the entire world, shouldn't be allowed to have a national army armed with weapons to protect them from external aggressors like Israel. Hamas absolutely should have weapons. If they have to conspire to obtain weapons because Israel wants them defenseless and weak to be preyed on fuck Israel and go Hamas conspiracy. Conpiracys are not necessarily bad, they are just plans someone makes that they want kept quiet secret or otherwise try to deny or cover up. When Jews were conspiring to escape from NAZI death factories, the fact that it was a conspiracy was not a bad thing, it was a good conspiracy.

v/conspiracy mostly concerns bad conspiracies, like the Israel STATE perpetrating a holocaust on the Palestinians supported by Israeli nationalist and Zionists all the while covering up their genocidal aims and absolving their murderous actions.

But do post about the Hamas conspiracies to defend themselves. But if you try to paint that conspiracy in a bad light don't expect support.

shmegegy

UNRWA and Hamas conspiring to hide war crimes is pertinent to the sub.

When Jews were conspiring to escape from NAZI death factories, the fact that it was a conspiracy was not a bad thing, it was a good conspiracy.

I don't even.. wtf?

Nationalist

Not to say there's never hatred directed at innocent Jewish people, but as the saying goes: "An anti-Semite is not someone who hates jews, but someone whom jews hate." I'd just call people out if they're posting claims without evidence and ignore whatever else others have to say.

bLuDcLoT_BARN

You are correct, it is an immediate go-to defence thrown out at a whim. Next thing you are being called a stormfront user or some shit, gets boring real quick. This is v/Conspiracy for fucks sake. Of course people will talk about the Jews/international bankers(Jews)/Jewish control of congress/the holocaust etc. (along with many other things conspiracy related).

shmegegy

Of course people will talk about the Jews/international bankers(Jews)/Jewish control of congress/the holocaust etc

only people with an agenda against jews would do that. the vast jewish conspiracy huh? sounds like hate speech to me. what other religion or ethnic group do you single out in conspiracy theories? Catholics? Muslims? Christians? Nope.

bLuDcLoT_BARN

What the fuck are you on about? So we're not allowed to speak about Jews, because of 'hate speech'? This is conspiracy, and there are lots of conspiracies about Jews..

Rellik88

And this is why there is a "conspiracy" against Jews. When ever you try to talk about anything having to do with Jewish people, and bam racist get thrown and SJW win the argument. Maybe just maybe the fact I cant even talk about something is conspiracy worthy.

shmegegy

not allowed? you can talk about religion if you want. probably a sub for it. as for a conspiracy about jews.. yeah, it's thinly veiled hate speech. what other religion or ethnic group do people post 'conspiracies' about? so obvious.

Nationalist

Yeah, people on reddit really loved being paranoid about Stormfront. It was like what SJWs are to us except their sole evidence for Stormfront influence on reddit was one blog post a few months ago.

madmalloy

They will continue to use the same tactics, it's what they do.

Sticky

they're flooding many subs of voat, like they (the mods confirmed it) posted cp to jailbait to get it banned they're doing the same but by posting shitty content in many subs.

dieyoung

Where was it confirmed?

Sticky

in one of the announcements posts. sorry i don't know where exactly and i'm too lazy to search for it

ishkabibbles

I feel like there is legal action that can be taken for anyone who posts CP on any website, regardless if its just trolling or not

obama2016nazi

The battle is never won, now with BOTS the NSA can just flood sites with bile. Give every user the 'turing' test, most bots are poorly written. Don't give up, never quit, and never think its going to be easy. Read Cass Sunsteins report and plan from 2007, and learn how they operate, know their plans. Remember the U know the enemy, but he doesn't be know U.

"Be like water" - Sun Tzu, Art of War

alsyd

They don't need bots when they have stables of morons (either brainwashed or actually employed to shill). Giving something like a turing test is a good idea though, just stick to logic and watch them break down into fallacies. It's crazy how often they start changing the subject or straight up wailing and crying insults

obama2016nazi

I was recently with on on twitter a few weeks ago, I noticed after 20 posts it started its cycle all over again, like it triggered on original post, and for 20 iterations it carried on quite well, then at 20 it went into full recursion, and did the same cycle, I played along the second and cycle and bailed. So another notice on these bots they don't go very deep, sort of like playing chess, most don't think ahead more than 7 steps.

Voight-Comp test works every time for 'turing' just test them for 'emotive response', something the would repulse human being, and they just along like nothing.

"I think I'm going to feces for lunch today" - me "Did U enjoy your lunch" - bot

Mumberthrax

I don't believe that most astroturfing is done by bots - there is no evidence to support this assertion. Operation Earnest Voice , for example, employs humans. That said, trolls and astroturfing may be from any source that wishes to harm a community. There is no solid evidence of the origins of this sort of disruptive content on our subverse.

You're right though that there is a test that can be applied to determine if commentary or content is valuable - we can check to see if it is logical, if it is an appeal to emotion, if it cites sources, if it is coherent and not random babbling, if it is bigoted, if it is low-quality content like memes, if it's a comment that helps people to think more critically about topics rather than cause people to polarize or to think less. Such a "test" can be applied by any person with the power to wield a downvote or respond with clarifying questions.

obama2016nazi

Think 'Blade Runner" Voight-Comp Test

Would you like Boiled Dog for lunch? Or a Child's Liver, humans would be revolted by such an inquiry, a heartless bot just just keeps emitting text. Hell even the call center folk would probably think the boiled-dog would create salivation, and a child's liver is worth big money in the Israel transplant biz.

obama2016nazi

Back in 1960's we had "ELIZA" and it fooled most people, today you have cleverbot.com and it will fool almost everyone, state of the art bots are commercially available that can fool 99%.

That said almost all BOTS cannot follow a request to "Google" something, they'll ask for a link, then they get back a pre-programmed canned response about how that site is anti-semitic are some other insipid BS.

Lastly, we regards to real humans, its always been a given since 1980's on these 'bulletin boards' that for every human there is 7-10 avatars.

Remember also that Israel is paying people $4,000/month by the 100's to play on the internet and will improve their reputation. Then toss in the folks in India working call centers with good english skills.

All this stuff can be found on the "Cass Sunstein" report from 2007, where they go into deep detail how they will control the internet post 2015.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-25/obama-picks-cass-sunstein-america%E2%80%99s-joseph-goebbles-serve-nsa-oversight-panel

Mumberthrax

Do you have any sources on the bulletin board "avatar" thing?

Do you have any sources about bots being used for astroturfing?

Do you have any sources for the $4000/month figure for Israeli hasbara?

Thank you for the zerohedge link. I have heard of the sunstein report, but hadn't actually read it. I reviewed it moments ago seeking anything about the use of programs or artificial intelligence, as well as anything about bulletin board "avatars", but did not see anything.

Mumberthrax

Thank you for this! The link to the second document in that post has 404'd but the first one is still there and a google translated version matches up fairly close with the electronicintifada's translateion.

obama2016nazi

google "zerohedge cass sunstein' they have written a dozen articles over the past 5 years on his programs, some go into great detail about how the actual processes work with graphs from NSA, a lot of this stuff is write out of SNOWDEN with Cass Sunsteins name on it.

a lot of people have put 2&2 together

there are 100's of companys selling bot's, there are many of these companys operating in israel, why not start one yourself? its where the money is these days,

IMHO most of this is just the fatigure factor, it will tire good people out, they get emotionally involved with say TPP, then go on line and chat, most likely with a BOT, then after many hours realize they might as well talk to their cat or dog :( Essentially BOTS, and Indian call center employees don't care, and of course TROLLS don't care either

I always say if U don't care then your not human, the problem is the NSA NEOCON ruling the world are NOT human, they lost their humanity long ago, they only have one goal

to make every woman on earth a whore to make every man a slave

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-era-of-dissolution.html

Mumberthrax

google "zerohedge cass sunstein' they have written a dozen articles over the past 5 years on his programs, some go into great detail about how the actual processes work with graphs from NSA, a lot of this stuff is write out of SNOWDEN with Cass Sunsteins name on it.

Hmm. I searched for cass sunstein and it turned up a few results, but nothing about bots or computer-automated online propaganda:

The_Penis_Wizard

That's not exactly true. CP was being crossposted from /v/truejailbait to /v/jailbait by regular users.

Detente01

CP is Child Porn. Jailbait refers to adolescents IE not Children not Child Porn. The only people posting child porn in jailbait would be people so ignorant as to not know that jailbait users are not interested in pictures of children as jailbait users are not pedophiles. Only a feminazi troll would be that stupid.

1smartass

The definition of jailbait means someone under the age with regards to consent.

You'd likely be pretty pissed off if an image of your 10 year old daughter got posted to a site called "jailbait".

That shit happened, see Brutsch's interview on CNN. Reddit's most notorious troll sure changed his tune when his face was connected to his online activities.

The_Penis_Wizard

The definition of child is"a young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority."

Anyone under 18 is a child. Porn of people under the age of 18 is CP. I dunno if you ever looked at the subverse, but they had preteens too.

Jailbait users are not pedophiles.

Uh, what? I think that's exactly what they were.

I'm a feminazi now? Nice ad hominem.

Detente01

Go ask a teenager if they are a child. They will laugh at you. As regards your googled definition, the correct complete definition is the latter relies on the former and it is whichever event comes first legal majority or pubescence.

You like to play fast and loose with definitions but words have meanings and you cant just make up whatever meaning you want.

Pedo has a specific definition. Attraction to prepubescent children. Jailbait is defined as post pubescent teens not prepubescent children. Jailbait users would be classified as hebes ehebes or more to the point normal human males.

I don't like the term SJW as there is nothing wrong with real social justice, so I replaced it with feminazi. Feminazis posted CP or as you call it preteen images to jailbait and played it fast and loose with definitions just like you are doing due to ignorance and design to attack Voat. Jailbait is not CP. CP is not Jailbait. Those areas do not overlap. 3% of males are pedophiles. 97% of straight males are hebe or ehebes attracted to mid to late pubescent females. That's reality that is covered up by feminazis to boost their own sexual market value by forcing men to have sex with their bloated aging carcasses by putting attractive nubile girls off limits.

The_Penis_Wizard

Go ask a teenager if they are a child

Right, because they create the definitions. Child is a blanket term, covering everything from newborns to adolescents.

You like to play fast and loose with definitions but words have meanings and you cant just make up whatever meaning you want.

Uh... yeah. Which is why I used the actual definition of the word, instead of your made up one. For a better one, The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as "a human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier"

Pedo has a specific definition

Right. A person who is attracted to children.

Jailbait users would be classified as hebes ehebes or more to the point normal human males

But it wasn't just 16-17 year olds being posted. There was preteens too.

Feminazis posted CP or as you call it preteen images to jailbait and played it fast and loose with definitions just like you are doing due to ignorance and design to attack Voat.

No. It wasn't SJWs or Feminazis or any other boogieman. It was the regular users. When /v/jailbait banned completely nude images of people younger than 16, they went and made /v/truejailbait for them. But /v/jailbait didn't have real moderation, and everything posted to /v/truejailbait was crossposted back to /v/jailbait .

inb4 facts make me a feminazi shill.

Detente01

Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), and the manual defines it as a paraphilia in which adults or adolescents 16 years of age or older have intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Notice bolded portion of definition.

Look at it.

Look at it.

Prepubescent.

inb4 facts make me a feminazi shill.

But youre not saying facts. You said being attracted to pubescent teens is pedophilia. It is BY DEFINITION NOT FACT.

Your continuing attempts to confuse these definitions is what makes it seem like you are a SJW shill. Children are children tweens are tweens teens are teens and adults are adults. Pedophiles are adults attracted to children. Hebeophiles are adults attracted to tweens. Ehebeophiles are adults attracted to teens. The first group, pedophiles is defined as a mental disorder. The last two were considered but rejected from the mental health manual as they were not considered disorders ie normal.

Now there may well have been CP in Jailbait or perhaps in TrueJailbait. But Jailbait by definition is a pubescent girl. Anyone posting CP to Jailbait were posting it to the wrong forum. Perhaps they were genuine and confused pedophiles who thought it was the right place. Or more likely it was activists who hate jailbait intentionally associating jailbait with CP to get it taken down.

The only people who purposely confuse the two separate definitions are people with an ulterior motive or ignorant. Ive already corrected your definitions with sources. You are no longer ignorant. So what are your ulterior motives?

See female supremacists otherwise known as feminazis want to increase their own sexual market value which is quite low as they are old fat and ugly so to force men to have sex with them they take control of society and ban sex with younger more attractive women. In public they will call these younger women victims. In private they call them sluts. They extract a huge price from any man sleeping with a younger woman and a price from the victim/slut as well through victim shaming and slut shaming. All to get men to desire them more. This is the same reason these activists shut down sites where men can even look at non nude images of younger more attractive girls try to ban male masturbatory aids and even adult pornography. They know it is normal and indeed biologically wired into most men to want the youngest post pubescent ie nubile female, but dotn care, they just want what is best for them and don't care about anyone else.

The_Penis_Wizard

But youre not saying facts. You said being attracted to pubescent teens is pedophilia. It is BY DEFINITION NOT FACT.

That was a minor part of my argument. My main argument was that jailbait had CP. And the entire next part of the wikipedia page you linked is debates against the DSM-5 definition.

Now there may well have been CP in Jailbait or perhaps in TrueJailbait.

There was. There's no arguing this, they were banned for it. TrueJailbait's entire purpose was CP, because it was banned from Jailbait (in word only).

Or more likely it was activists who hate jailbait intentionally associating jailbait with CP to get it taken down.

That is unlikely. In fact, it's downright false. It wasn't activists who went and made TrueJailbait. Most people there didn't care about definitions or the true purpose of jailbait. They knew it as the place they could go to jerk off to underage girls, and they wanted to jerk off to naked underage girls. Its reputation gathered pedophiles.

The only people who purposely confuse the two separate definitions are people with an ulterior motive or ignorant. Ive already corrected your definitions with sources. You are no longer ignorant. So what are your ulterior motives?

Is everyone who disagrees with you a shill? Yeah, the guy that spends his time on the internet making fun of fat people is shilling for feminism. What definitions are you saying I have mixed up? CP and jailbait? Jailbait is a slang term without an official definition, but wikipedia and google define it has someone under the age on consent being considered in sexual terms. Jailbait pics can be CP, if it's actual porn.

I'm not sure how to even comment on that last paragraph, because it's just crazy. There's no secret alliance of old fat hags trying to control the sexual market. You do understand how you sound when you say that, right?

TahTahBur

Yeah - wtf was that shit. Seriously, right now is the time to carry a big stick and speak softly.

I work in marketening as a creative. I studied PR, Edward Bernays, as a hobby. I work with small businesses. This sort of thing you pointed out can really be used against this sites idea of free speech and slander it into oblivion. Subject matters like that go against everyone who has come here to be away from that hive mind that reddit has become. This isn't 4chan...

k3ksninja

i agree with most however the reddit hivemind is not such a big problem for me as their censorship of information.

Errl

if you're talking about the post I made, I was just trying to figure out the root of the blatant anti-semitism on /r/conspiracy and why it wasn't like that here.

Detente01

anti Israel and anit Zionism is not anti Semitism. You do realize that Palestinians are Semitic right?

PrivateJoker

For anyone doubting this story...

http://i.imgur.com/R4iul3a.jpg

shmegegy

we know that reddit mods like bipolarbear0 posted antisemitic threads to poison the sub. he admitted it.