fremar

i think this me is total bs. sorry but i really think it is. it began with that vampire movie no ? then we go see at a "official" scene release website .... you get it ? if this me is oh so powerful than it should be a piece of cake to alter the data of that website for example.

SaveTheChildren

The me is a cover for somethingelse entirely imo

fremar

its just a crappy diy psyop from glp.

SaveTheChildren

I agree it's psyop as stated, but there is something to it imo.

fremar

i really think its an attempt for attention for glp ( more traffic ,with more ads = more $$$ ) maybe a test ( since glp is very political ) to see how far you can get with mass hysteria / sheeple conditioning. it would be awesome if it really was something , because it would be "proof" for alternate realities , timetravel , etc. but i highly doubt it. maybe its an indication for the speed we process information & the growth of worldwide common knowledge, which doubles in volume & speed every year. ( before the wheel was invented it took like for example 1000 years for the moment to arrive for the invention of the wheel , & this time for commoon knowledge worldwide to spread & used goes faster & faster , so its very possible we are going to experience more changes in 1 year that would take 100 years for example. this can alter our perception of time )

SaveTheChildren

When you start getting into alternate realities and time travel that's when I stop believing in this effect. I think that's a honey pot.

An interesting Theory I've heard about this is that what if it's some form of test they have put out there to see how many of us are paying attention to things.

For instance the movie discrepancies were seeing, what is in different parts of the world slightly different versions of the movie were shown? This would leave a certain part of the population having a quote-unquote false memory of the movie.

Or maybe one version is showing in the theaters and then a slightly different version has been shown ever since and they're trying to see if we notice the difference.

fremar

im not getting in alternate realities , i said IF it was true this me , it COULD be "proof" for alternate realities ( there are atleast 11 dimensions/realities )

well hollywood is in hands of cia / zionists .... movies & news are there to shape your worldview to their needs... but if they feel the need to test ppl for paying attention it could be an indication that this "programming" through media & movies is flawed. & so far usa / cia / zionists have learned really well from ww2 germany.

this is what i try to point out in former post

SaveTheChildren

I haven't looked into Bucky to see if 'hes' an inverto mason. Probably is. But yes, do you not think that any of these ME are real?

Some seem pretty convincing to me that at least something more than collective false memories is happening.

fremar

no i do not think it's real. language changes over time , words change , this is not due to me. it's evolution ( i know also mason shit lol :) )

SaveTheChildren

Then all of these collective false memories are nothing more than false memories? It's possible...

fremar

most people have the memory of how a word is written (berenstain/berenstien/berenstein for example) & don't keep up with the evolution of language. does this make a memory false ? for those people the 'updated' words/language seems false. people have to process allot of information these days so its understandable they react the way they do to this "me" the way we talk and communicate today , if you comunicated in this way in 1600 or so you would be marked a witch for example, people would talk about "strangers" who "cast" strange words / spells ....

SaveTheChildren

I don't necessarily believe the history they tell us about the 16 hundreds. I believe these things do cast spells. Just the word alone, it's casting a spell. Spelling

I think there's much more to the ME than simple word spelling. I agree that ME is wrong as stated.

I think it's many different things all lumped in to one fake thing (like gravity).

fremar

check the hidden history of cannabis & you'll get a better idea what they really meant in the bible when they talk about god coming down in clouds / smoke / etc .

the spoken word what you call casting spells is the "materialization" of thought .

someone had a thought ( m.e ) & has put this in written word in an atempt to "materialize" it or make it "real" .

like for example a guy called muhammed had a dream ( thought) & has put this in spoken word making it real.

most of science theories ( like gravity ) are theories , ideas / thought(s) ....

SaveTheChildren

I smoke a lot of cannabis... Can you give me a TLDW on that video? I don't have 60 minutes to invest into that right this second.

fremar

you're in search for truth & information & in this way make a small evolution in thinking without effort ? bookmark it when you're ready to recieve this , roll a fat one ( better vaporize ) hit play & enjoy. nothing is gained through laziness. btw its + 2 hours.

SaveTheChildren

I never said I wasn't going to watch it, just curious if you had a TLDW for me.

fremar

i know you didn't say you weren't going to see it , but your reaction implied you were not going to do it right away , which is strange, you ask for information , you get information but then don't want to see the information .... :)

we can discuss it when you've seen it yourself . it tends to make better conversation when you have formed your own thoughts about it.

SaveTheChildren

I said I don't have 60 minutes to invest right this second. I am a dad, I don't really have 60 minute chunks of time available at a moment's notice.

fremar

im also a dad. two kids . right now , i'm fixing them a movie we can watch together ( looking for subs ) & you need atleast 120 minutes for that documentary .

SaveTheChildren

Lol, the masons gotta put their "unimaginably large" sun in there for comparison.

fremar

sun worship did not start with masons my friend. check ishtar for example.

SaveTheChildren

Why 11? Sounds like Masonic lie.

PassingShip

I don't have any memory of shirt color... but I distinctly remember him turning around and wearing sunglasses.

SaveTheChildren

I figured this could be a big Mandela effect for people. I never even saw the movie and I imagine it with glasses, because it's been parodied so many times before and they always have glasses on.

PassingShip

Incidentally, do you know you have a clone running around?

SaveTheChildren

WTF is that shit?

PassingShip

Got me. They made an especially stupid post and I snarked at them, then looked closer, saw they had a tiny number of submissions and were working transinvestigation instead of transvestigation, then I saw it was you replying to my comment and my original belief that you had dumped / remade your account had to be flushed. To be fair, I don't really think the obsession with trans people is good for either of you, but they might just be aping your style and playing it in extremis.

SaveTheChildren

Thanks for your opinion, but you cant un-wake up from this stuff. I'm not 'obsessed with trannies' I'm just aware of a truth that you aren't aware of, and you see that as being 'obsessed with trannies'. You have a lack of perspective. This is something that you have to study. They don't teach us how to spot trannies in school, you need to really study the differences in men and women, especially with all the plastic surgery we have today.

PassingShip

You think everyone is trans. You're like, one thought away from the lefties who want everyone to be trans. We're just not that common, despite what the media would have you believe.

SaveTheChildren

Regular human beings who do this? Rare, but a lot more common than you'd think and it's becoming MUCH more common. In these 'elites'? It's the norm. It's not rare at all.

I'm sorry you felt like you had to take hormones and surgically alter your body in order to 'be true to yourself'. That makes no sense to me, and I'm afraid you were probably brainwashed into doing this through seeing these things on the Tranny Vision and in the magazines.

In my opinion, you've opted to take the mark of the beast. I don't really know if you can ever undo it, but I hope you can.

PassingShip

Are you interested in an honest discussion, or do you intend to dismiss anything I say? Serious question.

SaveTheChildren

I consider myself a tranny expert. Of course I'd love honest discussion.

PassingShip

I don't know if I'm an expert, but I do have lived experience.

From my understanding, actual trans people, which is a category distinct from the transtrenders, essentially have a birth defect. Gendering of the brain and gendering of the body occur at two different times during pregnancy. If the hormone balance is off on brain gendering day, you get the brain of the other gender, and that generates a shitload of dissonance, since you're wired to be a certain way and aren't. This is part of why I think the left is being pants on head stupid when they insist that gendered brain differences aren't a thing, they very obviously are, and you can see this in the results of people who try to raise their kids genderless, only to find them playing with trucks / dolls one day. Brains are gendered, the genders are different, and once in a while someone gets fucked with a brain of the wrong gender for their body.

I don't understand why those with money and power would transition if they weren't experiencing this brain/body mismatch. SRS, at least from my perspective, is better than nothing, better than living with a body that causes me intense emotional pain when I'm forced to confront the aspects that don't match my neurological gender. But for a healthy person who doesn't have crossed wires, why the fuck would they want a body almost guaranteed to be less ideal than one that was allowed to develop along the lines it's inclined to? It's not like, to the best of my knowledge, we have sex that is as good as brain/body matched people post op. As I said, for someone who's really experiencing that condition, it's better than things as they stand, but for a normal person? Why the fuck would you do that, especially if you're someone with money and power and influence over people?

SaveTheChildren

So, that sounds like some bullshit explanation that someone came up with. Got anything to back it up? I'm not saying hormone imbalance WONT cause transgenderism, but you need to prove that is the only cause, and still that the solution to this brain wiring is to transition into the other gender (something I completely disagree with).

Don't you think it's more likely that seeing a bunch of trannies and faggots on TV will get your brain all scrambled up and confused? People try to pin this on biology, but humans learn from their environment. Now, put your prejudice aside, just IMAGINE that EVERYONE on TV were transgender, would that not make some people's brains get all scrambled and confused and find themselves feeling like they aren't in the right sex?

Would seeing your male characteristics in the FEMALES on the TV, not be confusing for you subconsciously?

This is why the trannies being secret is so important. It screws with all of us subconsciously

Why these elites transgender themselves is a whole nother bag of worms, so why dont you work on waking up to the fact that secret trannies on the TV exist, first. Then you work on realising that ALMOST ALL of the people on TV are secretly transgendered, THEN we can start answering the WHY aspect.

PassingShip

It might, if I watched TV. Since I don't, that doesn't really explain anything in my case.

Here and here are some articles that support my point.

Trans and gays on tv scrambling brains also sounds like some bullshit explanation that someone came up with. Got anything to back it up?

SaveTheChildren

If you still believe articles pushed by mainstream media I really can't help you. Use your common sense what do you think? Do you think seeing these things on TV would have an effect on people?

PassingShip

This is what I meant about not listening.

Also, I provided evidence. You provided nothing but, that's not true. Do you have evidence of that ?

Who benefits from this hypothetical conspiracy? What does anyone get out of it?

Why has not a single person come forward with information on this? They could send it to wikileaks anonymously.

SaveTheChildren

Lol.... K go back to your Santa tales. Wiki leaks has always been compromised. They don't show us stuff we aren't supposed to see.

PassingShip

So let's be clear: The full range of your tactics in a debate over the truth of a matter is to:

A: Demand evidence.

B: Ridicule the evidence.

C: Ridicule the understanding of your opponent, and end the discussion.

At no point in this, despite repeated requests, have you presented anything that could be called evidence. You won't consider new hypothesis, nor will you examine the flaws in your own, nor subject them to debate. You're on a site that's dedicated to free speech, but all you really try to do is shut down opposition. That's sad.

I'll be around if you ever want to actually examine the issue, and demonstrate your expertise, instead of performing the linguistic equivalent of flinging poo and declaring yourself the victor.

SaveTheChildren

K. Go learn human anatomy in the meantime.

PassingShip

While my knowledge is not as good as I would like, let me ask you: What is your opinion if we can grow new dna-matched organs that provide full reproductive capacity?

What if CRISPR or its intellectual descendants allow us to completely rewrite our dna?

What if we can completely reshape a human body, using advanced medical nanotechnology to completely reconfigure the organism, on every level?

Questions to ponder, until we talk again. Do let me know how it works out with your duplicate / false flagger. It certainly looks like /u/SaveTheChiIdren is trying to make you look worse, and I think it's shitty to attack your reputation like that.

SaveTheChildren

What youre talking about is pure EVIL.

Humans are meant to pro-create through sex between a man and a woman. Get out of here with your distopian future EVIL done in the name of 'science'.

We have no morals any more. People are such degenerates.

PassingShip

Why is it EVIL?

SaveTheChildren

Things created this way are not human. I will never support that. Humans are made through having sex. Whatever those things are are CREATURES. Abominations.

PassingShip

I'm talking about humans made through good old fashioned, mutation generated and natural selection refined, fucking. The beast with two backs, the horizontal mambo, pick your preferred euphemism. Make it a good one, please. I've heard a lot of them and I do enjoy hearing new ones.

In any case, I mean children put into a woman by fertilizing an egg in her uterus with penis injected semen. Some of those babies come out early. Of the babies that come out early, some die. Of the ones that live, many suffer lifelong effects such as difficulty breathing. If some of those humans live who would have died, and live better lives, where is the evil?

SaveTheChildren

They are using this technology for much more... This is disturbing.

PassingShip

Incidentally, if science and its products are bad and wrong and evil, how do you feel about, say, open heart surgery, or liver transplants, or cancer treatments based on CRISPR and altering a person's immune system?

And what are you doing on the internet? Computers are hugely scientific, in design, function, and usage!

SaveTheChildren

Crispr is evil.

PassingShip

How is it evil? Evidence, please.

SaveTheChildren

Lol, I really got you with that one didn't I? Nothing is taboo to you people.

PassingShip

How is it evil? Still looking for evidence instead of emotional arguments.

SaveTheChildren

K transhumanist

PassingShip

Do you think that is an insult? I am going to borg out hard.

SaveTheChildren

I will not take the mark of the beast. Have fun with that.

PassingShip

I expect to have an immense amount of fun. I see no reason to believe a book that was generated by bronze age goat herders, passed down through word of mouth, edited for political reasons, multiply retranslated, and used as a basis to oppress human freedom for centuries.

SaveTheChildren

I don't believe in the bible like that either im sure it's been tampered with.

PassingShip

I have no reason to believe it is anything but a codification of tribal laws, helpful for passing on basic morality (in some senses. In many others the morals of the bible are quite terrible. Would you offer your daughters to be gang raped? What are your feelings on slavery?)to some people who really needed the help, but not actually true.

SaveTheChildren

wtf are you even talking about? I'm not christian.

PassingShip

Sorry, you talked about the mark of the beast, which is part of the christian mythos, is it not?

SaveTheChildren

Yup. Just because the bible isn't 100% right doesn't mean it doesn't have truths. It's a good metaphor.

PassingShip

People called credit cards the mark of the beast, do you not use those, either?

SaveTheChildren

No, those people sound dumb. Credit cards do have their downsides though.

SaveTheChiIdren

People call trannies gay, doesn't make it true.

SaveTheChildren

do you think that anything is evil?

PassingShip

Harming unwilling people.

SaveTheChildren

And you don't think any of this is harmful?

PassingShip

Do I think sustaining life instead of allowing death is harmful? No, I think it's the opposite. You call yourself SaveTheChildren, then you talk about how you want children to die. You don't think dying is harmful?

SaveTheChildren

Interesting perspective.

I think growing a fetus in a plastic bag is disturbing and unethical.

PassingShip

I think letting a baby die when it could be saved is disturbing and unethical.

SaveTheChildren

I don't agree. No fetus should grow inside of a plastic baggie.

PassingShip

So you are in favor of babies dying?

SaveTheChildren

sometimes, yes. Not all fetuses are meant for this world. I'm okay with that truth. Some people aren't.

PassingShip

Meant by who? Why do they get to pick and choose?

SaveTheChildren

If a woman's body rejects a fetus, it's very likely the fetus has issues. I don't think humans that come out super retarded are worth living. They should have just died.

PassingShip

Something like this would reduce the incidence of brain damage and let the fetus fully grow, so you have a healthy human being instead of a corpse.

SaveTheChildren

Healthy retard you mean.

I don't want to 'save' my child that will be mentally retarded.

PassingShip

Where is your evidence?

SaveTheChildren

K, just keep TRUSTING them... LOL

PassingShip

Show me your evidence. Where is your evidence.

What do you think you know, and how do you think you know it?

SaveTheChildren

Can you use your brain please?

Go watch the video of the lamb being GROWN in a plastic baggie 'uterus' and tell me that you do not feel how wrong it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCGF8qrBKjY

PassingShip

I have watched it; I feel how AWESOME it is. Soon, that technology will allow is to save the lives of prematurely born children, and improve the lives of the ones who would have lived. Human lives will be saved, this is EVIL?

SaveTheChildren

Dear god. We have no ethics anymore. This is disturbing. We should not be raising a lamb inside of an artificial womb. You know they probably already do this to human beings and just don't tell us. ITS DISGUSTING.

PassingShip

So you feel icky, and that means it's bad? That's really your best argument?

SaveTheChildren

Um. YES, it's called listening to your heart, your instincts. Everything about this is BEYOND disturbing.

How do you think it is to be a lamb that grows up in a plastic baggie rather than in the uterus of its mother?

theoldguy

it's called listening to your heart, your instincts.

AKA feels before reals!

PassingShip

Better than to be dead?

SaveTheChildren

No. Wrong. Imagine the difference between a fetus that grows up inside his mom, and one that grows up inside a plastic baggie.

PassingShip

Now imagine the difference between the fetus that grows up to be a ziplock baby, and one that dies. Imagine it growing up and having experiences, and getting over how uncomfortable the baggy made it, vs the experience of the one that died and was cast into the trash.

SaveTheChildren

I'd rather be dead

PassingShip

Ok, you personally would. I would rather live. Why does your opinion deserve to prevail for all the lives that could be saved by this?

If you'd rather be dead, once you're an adult, it's not like that's all that hard to accomplish, not that I am recommending that anyone do so. But from the principle of self ownership that I have described elsewhere earlier today, if you own your life, shouldn't you be allowed to end it? If you own a car, and you own a mining pick, you can take the mining pick to your car to your heart's content, even destroy it utterly, end its existence as a car, can you not?

SaveTheChildren

What?