sean

We should not be worried about whoaverse as a whole. We should be worried about our little section of it. And if our little section happens to be the biggest content maker on this site, then so be it.

As long as we can get our shit together and have good content in this subverse, then nothing else should be considered at all.

If anything, our subverse should lead by example and if other people migrate to this site and notice that we are happy, then that will encourage them to also create and foster their little corner of this site.

It is really that simple.

And if, worse case scenario, we are the only subverse that ever becomes popular and that ends up dominating this whole site, then that is also not a bad thing. Whoaverse sounds like a great name for a conspiracy site anyways.

Think about it like this, if I open a cook-shop to sell greasy food to drunk people, and I happen to make an amazing sandwich with chicken and cabbage. And words spreads and the majority of people come for that sandwich, ignoring the rest of the menu completely.

Then guess what, with continued success, I would get rid of the neglected menu items and focus on that sandwich. I may even change the name of the shop to reflect and emphasize it "Sean's Famous Chicken".

You go with what works. You don't start making shitty chicken sandwiches in order to push the other menu items to the forefront.

Atko

Just a short notice to prevent any further disinformation:

  • Several accounts (3 or so) were relinquished because they were registered through a bot (which was made to register usernames of specific group of reddit users)
  • Bot author offered to delete the accounts and even hand over the usernames and passwords to me for relinquishing
  • I did not relinquish any other accounts because usernames are not copyright material and you can not claim your username here just because you used it somewhere else

Atko

This was done with permission of the person who registered the account by using a bot. Please get informed before making any claims.

Zenof

Flytape was one of the effected, yes indeed his name was not ganked in that linked thread

But that does not invalidate your link.

Thank you for your link and evidence.

I'm not sure what to think about this post at this point, I'm teetering on calling him a conspiratard. But I don't want to let my sugar rush along with lack of sleep and no nicotine get the better of me.

Zenof

I could go on Club Penguin or some shit right now and make an account called Zenof.

Go right ahead, but be prepared :D

But seriously. If this is the biggest concern you have (username rights) then you need to get with the program before the train runs you over.

Why are you so angsty about a username, why? Did you register someones UN and have it taken away from your control? What is your issue?

Zenof

prefer it to other usernames? That isn't how the internet works.

It's not something I PREFER

I MADE the UN Zenof. The word, I created 15 years ago

My real life name is Ryan, so I should be able to petition Google to give me [email protected] since Ryan is my identity, right?

Don't be fuckin retarted, you didn't create the name Ryan, so why should I even bother debating this but here it goes.

Their are over 4 million Ryan's, there is one Zenof

If you want to come here to troll I can fix that straight away

Zenof

If some jackoff would have ganked my name you know god damn right I'd have it returned.

Imagine if, in three years, Atko is asked by a company called Zenof to give their CEO your account because it's their company's name

And I already know Atko wouldn't betray me or anyone else like that.

Then why should he do it for the mods from another website. If I'm wrong in this accusation, let me know.

Ok so lets say some asshat was able to reg my UN before I was able to reg it. It's my name, it's my ident, why should someone else be able to make me look however they wanted to make me look and damage it?

MonocleBIOS

But what if it wasn't "some jackoff" who made an account with the same username? What if somebody completely unrelated to Reddit or /r/conspiracy made the account? Would you still insist that Atko relinquish his account because he had the misfortune to pick your username in particular?

How about the opposite; what if someone that doesn't go on Reddit (god forbid there are other sites on the internet) claimed the username Zenof on another site before you made up the name. Then by your reasoning, Atko should give your account to them because you're impersonating them.

Your username isn't your identity, it isn't tied to any social security number or social insurance number. I cannot go to the bank and issue a loan under your username, nor can I file a tax return with it.

Your username is just an alias, regardless of how powerful you think the internet is.

Zenof

What if somebody completely unrelated to Reddit or /r/conspiracy made the account?

The account in question was Flytape's, it was registered roughly 20 minutes after the reddit shitfest started.

It definately was registered by a member of conspiritard and they registered /v/whitepower along with a bunch of other discrediting things with it.

Whether you know this or not, Zenof is I and I am Zenof, both online and IRL. Yea I know you can't go fuck with it IRL but you can online, and that is where you are now.

So instead of getting a car loan with the name flytape, what was done was inflammatory. That's why action was taken, not only to right wrongs but to try to rid ourselves of that scourge

In closing: I am starting to think this is a conspiratard posting because of all of the illogical asshattery going on. (making it clear, not just what this comment is replying to)

MonocleBIOS

Whether you know this or not, Zenof is I and I am Zenof, both online and IRL. Yea I know you can't go fuck with it IRL but you can online, and that is where you are now.

That doesn't change the fact that it's an alias though. If I had the username SnoopLion, it would be ridiculous to assume that my real name is Calvin Cordozar Broadus, Jr. or that anything I say represents his stance regarding anything.

I am starting to think this is a conspiratard posting because of all of the illogical asshattery going on.

Nice to know I'm being labelled as a conspiratard because I don't agree with you.

Zenof

If I had the username SnoopLion

If that was the case I'd bann you for impersonating a crip :p

Nice to know I'm being labelled as a conspiratard because I don't agree with you.

I did note that I wasn't talkin about you when I said that. It even is above your comment that I was calling this hole topic on the verge of it.

The focusing on the names and how someone got so peeved that the name swap took place and calling akto a shill for putting respective names with the proper people. Literally, the only thing that has been talked about in 21 comments (22 now) was names and how Atko was such a horrible motherfucker for doing such a ghastly despicable thing.

But maybe I should

MonocleBIOS

I did note that I wasn't talkin about you when I said that. It even is above your comment that I was calling this hole topic on the verge of it.

Read that wrong, whoops.

Don't get me wrong, I understand why Atko did the name swap. My issue is with the whole "I have the right to my previous username" deal; I think it poses a decent chance of pissing people off if the community grows.

I think the assumption that Atko might be a bit of a pushover is a legitimate concern however. His stance regarding censorship and administrative power is indeed noble, I just think that at some point he has to put his foot down regarding what he wants to do with this site.

The focusing on the names and how someone got so peeved that the name swap took place and calling akto a shill for putting respective names with the proper people. Literally, the only thing that has been talked about in 21 comments (22 now) was names and how Atko was such a horrible motherfucker for doing such a ghastly despicable thing.

The majority of the OP seemed to be about /r/conspiracy 's involvement in WhoaVerse. That's a land mine I'd rather not step on.

Zenof

...at some point he has to put his foot down regarding what he wants to do with this site.

I'm sure he will, WV are still in it's infancy as a whole mind you :D

The majority of the OP seemed to be about /r/conspiracy 's involvement in WhoaVerse. That's a land mine I'd rather not step on.

Yeah, I'm way too tired to go into all of that. I'm not sure where Akto came from but his acknowledgement of how we aren't crazy leads me to believe he's a solid dude. Or is it cause we almost mass migrated here and he doesn't want to loose the flowing? hmm o.0

Sorry for ending the discussion so abruptly, I'm out of steam for now.

Zenof

I'd like to see WV grow immensely and one day topple reddit.

Now sure how it could be done though outside of word of mouth

Don't ask them to transfer an account or subverse simply because you support the person/idea.

Woah there dude, Atko relinquished control of accounts/subs to the people who weren't conspiratard trolls