gazillions

You're deliberately off on a tangent. Suspiciously shill like in your shallow need for a response.

gazillions

No, I'm Sorry, you're the idiot. And your idiocy is entrenched. There's a very clear connection between the disenfranchising voters and massive immigration. They all vote left. And you are perfectly well aware of it. You brought it up to keep the back and forth going. You know damned well the entire chiseling, greedy and selfish basis of this fake generosity is sick and twisted.

Dortex

Spick*

gazillions

Haha. What a doink. All of Silicon Valley and every franchise company wants 10 million people to apply for every job so they push the racism & borderless bullshit to drive down wages but that's good with you because Starbucks and apple are cool.

The climate tax bullshit is a fucking money grab designed to crush the west and drive down wages.

Drive down wages. You support driving down wages. That's all it's about you gullible ninny.

gazillions

And in your mind, the guy with the most money does the most lying.

That would be Bezos then.

gazillions

Very likely. They're worth more than Walmart. How much do you think an open sale of that empire would go for. Jeff Bezos alone, separate from Amazon can be figured at over 80 billion dollars. Working at Amazon will ruin you. Working for an oil company will allow you to support your family.

Leap into the present.

bernitdown

You people are fucking stupid. Buy a snowmobile. Our winters are jokes now. Last year the trails we're open only one day.

gazillions

Big oil and big coal don't pull in near as much as Amazon alone. Big oil and big coal aren't against hiring Americans. Aren't into flooding the job market to drive down wages and pay their employees more than Amazon.

If big oil and gas are the enemy why do you support them with your money. That thing you typed your response on was made out of oil and brought to your door by oil. And what powers the servers that sent your message across the internet? Drive a car do you?

Maybe you should consider growing up now and not acting like a 16 year old wearing a tied dyed peace t shirt that thinks he's going to take down the man, because you can't even identify the man.

undertheshills

36% think scientists are crooked plus 27% believe they are bias = 63% doubt warming is as it is being pushed.

plagueship

100% of Americans are being deliberately lied to by lobbyists for big oil.

Just like big tobacco put up disinformation about the effects of smoking for decades.

undertheshills

No shit. There are dozens of powerful special interest groups that are trying to fuck us over for their own good. Big oil wants money. The environmentalists have been hijacked by jews that play on people emotions and over hype decent science to consolidate power and pick winners in industry.

plagueship

climate science might not give long term forcasts, but basic science is repeatable.

C02 reflects infrared and keeps the earth warm, that is a fact.

obviously putting more c02 into the atmosphere will retain more heat energy.

Look at Venus, on both night and day side:

Venus + 870 °F (+ 465°C) night + 870 °F (+ 465°C) day

Mercury is closer to the sun but has

Mercury - 275 °F (- 170°C) night + 840 °F (- 450°C) day

Is the difference due to liberal scientists skewing the numbers for the elites benefit, or is it that venus has a mainly C02 atmosphere and mercury has none?

gazillions

Are you living in 1965 or something. Really?! You're pretending the big money isn't all left. Bizarre.

10471395?

Stupid title.

8Ball

Global warming is a scam. Americans hate being scammed. It's as simple as that.

JohnGoodman

Nothing is preventing them, but there's nothin to gain from it. Politicians around the world have regulated the industry to the point of having no choice but to go along with it

Nana66

Scientist's are Freemason's...they not only know way more than they are telling us but also tell us what they want us to believe for controlling us.

Bryntyr

I have never seen a science need to be pushed so hard by politicians. Most science does not require professional liars hawking it non-stop, they simply make a statement and provide proof.

JohnGoodman

No there isn't. Not when you have politicians and lobbyists fearmongering people into throwing billions and billions of dollars at a problem that might not exist.

vastrightwing

Science has been politicized and is now goal seeking. Scientists who need work must shut up and goal seek. The ones who try to do science only work until the results conflict with the goal.

JohnGoodman

It's not about them advancing their careers based on their political views. It's scientists doing global warming studies that fudge the data to show global warming is happening, which in turn keeps getting those scientists funded for more research by lobbyist groups and the cycle continues.

ardvarcus

That's an encouraging percentage, given how relentlessly the pro-AGW propaganda is pushed through the media. They tell the same lies over and over and over, and it doesn't matter how often skeptics point out that they are completely wrong, they just tell the lies again.

B3bomber

This is about the same % that kept approving of Bush Jr.'s presidential run no matter how bad it got.

fuckonthefirstdate

voat is so retarded.

the title of this fucking post is retarded. i swear i want some right leaning fun but without the dumbasses. i swear half of you are here to discredit everyone else.

Mad_Dog91

Americans haven't thought for themselves in a long time

sweetholymosiah

I would suggest the fossil fuel companies are lying to Americans to keep them hooked on oil and gas.

JohnGoodman

They don't need to keep us "hooked". Fossil fuels are still the most affordable and realistic energy source so of course we want to still use it

sweetholymosiah

How realistic is it to destroy the environment because it's affordable to do so?

Keefin

Good thing CO2 emission has nothing to do with destroying our environment. If that is your concern, you should focus on things that actually destroy the environment.

JohnGoodman

Because we aren't destroying it

sweetholymosiah

lol ok

JohnGoodman

Do you have a car?

sweetholymosiah

what would be the significance? That I'm contributing to pollution?

JohnGoodman

If you use fossil fuels at all, you're a hypocrite and obviously don't believe the planet is being "destroyed" or you're ok with it.

gazillions

Read it. It said they believe scientists are motivated by a desire to advance their own careers. Being anti global warming has caused real scientists nothing but grief and hindered their careers. Snide comments from idiots that desperately want to sound smart wasn't the worst of it. Since this bullshit started politicians & their backers have built their careers on selling global warming. No one against it advanced their careers.

plagueship

talk about mental gymnastics, so Oil companies don't try to influence the debate at all, even though they stand to lose billions of dollars, whereas scientists are skewing all the data all the time to "advance their own careers".

It's not like they lose their jobs if they discover A instead of B.

They definitely lose their jobs though if they fake results for A instead of B.

gazillions

You've replaced religion with leftist science. Talk about mental gymnastics, you think leftist science is unimpeachable, yet any other science is partisan and therefore polluted. You support nothing but your own idea of moral superiority as a political base. Freak.

plagueship

Since when is science "leftist"?

Both sides of the political spectrum can use science, seem to remember the Nazis were fairly big on it as were the communists.

They only thing that provably doesn't work, is religion.

When you are sitting on the roof of your home after the last hurricane, would you rather see a rescue helicopter or have a church full of people muttering to themselves ?

gazillions

Where did you get the idea that Christians don't fly helicopters for search and rescue? They invented the helicopter and search & rescue.

gazillions

No. You are choosing partisan left science. It's paid for by specifically leftist interests. It's chosen by specifically leftist interested parties.

White-Supremacist

Gives me hope that we can unify against the global bankers who are stealing our wealth and killing us.

freedomite

They're only killing whites mate. The other races are benefiting from our genocide and have no reason to turn against the swarthy semitic hand that feeds them.

White-Supremacist

I can think of a few good reasons. Wealth disparity and enslavement come to mind.

freedomite

We've discussed before how you have more faith in them than I.

White-Supremacist

I wouldn't call it faith, more like hope, I've not yet really tried to pitch this idea to anyone I knew was black or something.

LostandFound

unify against the global bankers who are stealing our wealth and killing us

Well said

Pawn

we'll see about that goy, fire up the hurricane machine!

TomThomas

What's with the rampant anti-Semitism on Voat? Seriously, I've been away. When did this happen?

Dortex

It's a function of Voat's demographics. Voat isn't your first choice. You come here when Eddit bans you for not being PC enough. Now you've got people trying to be as inflammatory as they can out of sheer spite. The same types also happen to partake in the kind of right-leaning science denial you see in OP's post.

TomThomas

No reddit sub banned me, it's just a ridiculously immature experience, and increasing so.

But I take your point. It's unfortunate that mature dialog cannot be had without extremist and psychotic infiltration; on both sides.

freedomite

Better a day as a zealot than a thousand years a moderate.

TomThomas

Yes, zealots have only historically accomplished good. /s

freedomite

Yes, moderates have only historically accomplished anything of value. /s

TomThomas

I'm not sure why the /s. I should hardly have to enumerate the many many examples of zealots and fundamentalists throughout history and the humanitarian atrocity in their wake. Perhaps you could qualify your assertion that "moderates" do more evil with real examples?

CyborgCuttlefish

moderates don't even have a footnote in history.

Keefin

"Science denial." As an actual scientist, fuck off with your worship of the pseudo-scientific establishment. You think you're enlightened, but in reality you are just brainwashed.

Dortex

Exhibit B.

Keefin

You will probably never admit that you were gullible enough to be fooled by this BS. It's ok, when I was young and naive I bought into it, too. But I'm sure that one day you will realize that you were manipulated, even if you never admit it.

HillBoulder

HAARP

RoBatten

This is from Pew Research. I'm proud of my fellow Americans for knowing this is bullshit.