2 problems with the second shooter hypothesis. ( conspiracy )

submitted by counterjihad

First problem.

There's been many suggestions of a second shooter on a different floor. This would seem to me to be impossible because the windows can't open. If there had been a shooter there the windows would be blown out like the upper floors.

Second problem

There's been audio that sounds very much like a second gun firing. However the reports are that he had like 20 different guns in the room. A .22 cal rifle heard right after a .223 could sound like the same gun further away when actually it's a different gun in the same spot.

Also (correct me if I'm wrong) the audio doesn't sound like 2 guns at the same time. It can be difficult to tell because of the crack of supersonic projectiles plus the muzzle blast are both from the same gun.

Just some thoughts, Happy to be refuted

iDontShift

try the no shooter.

Craigs list ad for crowds now weeks before.

no videos of people getting shot.

hospital video has no blood.

this video https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Z1PBmnYS7hc has no bullet wounds, easily faked.

I think it was staged. all of it.

counterjihad

Oh fuck off shill.

You think 500 people could be pretend shot up and hospitals wouldn't say something?

Jesus

iDontShift

i asked the question, no need to get nasty. (but yes i do think 500 people could be found to lie for a few hundred bucks, they have infinite money... and my understanding is many of that 500 where trampled, not shot, which i don't see getting reported anywhere.)

been reading about how the people were literally blocked in... that is news to me.

i'll change my tune given new information, for now i'm just asking, so chill.

counterjihad

And ambulance and police and journalists .... thousands of people. Dude, get a grip

iDontShift

if it is real. why did reddit remove all traces of it? why was voat ddos at that exact time? why are videos being removed from youtube?

if your little mind can't wrap itself around a conspiracy this big... lol... that is tiny in comparison to the full conspiracy that is going on.

you have no idea what you are up against... lol.

run alice run! you are getting to close to the rabbit hole.

counterjihad

I'm open to their being dodgey circumstances which are hidden from us. The idea that it never actually Happened is retarded

counterjihad

You think that hospitals full of doctors and nurses not to mention administrators who are held to the highest ethical standards could be convinced to lie en mass for any amount of money?

iDontShift

yup. they are all brainwashed into a system of medicine. i'm sure they think it is for the greater good. they are convinced this will help our nation in the long run.

you really underestimate the power of persuasion... it isn't like they just ask you outright, they groom you, they test you, then they pick you. then anyone that isn't right for the job.. is just not there that day. might be interesting to see who was unscheduled who was normally scheduled to be there that day. or what 'extra' people were there that aren't normally.

if you had all the money in the world, everything at your disposal, the only thing you couldn't do is force people to do what you wanted, you had to persuade them... this is how you would do it. create an event that appears real, that gets people to change their minds about the world of their own free will. it is a lever, a crux.

counterjihad

You're delusional.

TruthSeaker

https://youtu.be/P-v1qPJm2us

Sure sounds like multiple shooters to me.

shwanky

I'm still with multiple shooters. Probably not the same building from the sound of the different recordings. That will now all be changed.

New_years_day

Regardless is there was a 2nd shooter, the story is incomplete and we do not know the details, which is the problem.

There needs to be a push for transparency.

Enough with the fucking lies and manipulation of public perception.

shwanky

who's going to give us the details is my question? You?

New_years_day

I would hope that the President would, since the fucking FBI is a faggot piece of shit.

shwanky

We can only hope. I remember Columbine being the last event any real information and footage about the case has ever really released in any substantial way. Now all we seem to get is unverified tube uploads from anon sources and no real information on a case that should be every bodies business if we want to look at the evidence ourselves. Shit we are mostly concerned adults here. I say give that data to the chans and those autists will probably have motive, possible accomplices, the precises trigger for his snap and where the next "attack" will occur within a week. But, like I said, Columbine was the last case I remember any real footage and investigation data was released in any substantial way. After that it has all been classified and/or deep-sixed.

New_years_day

Yup, 100%

The internet is a public investigator with lighting fast reaction and no red tape, and almost impossible of corruption, as far as I can see and as long as the internet stays open and protected under the 1st.