carlip

Once the state can get people to accept forced injections with their chemicals, they can get people to accept forced injection of your mind with their poisonous idealology.

Skeptical2017

They gave that kid a lifetime of immunization in five days?

Pawn

Should've let her kid remain unvaccinated. Each time an vaccinated child dies and the parent's world view is re-adjusted a kitten gets it's wings and goes to cat-heaven. On the plus side, its a form of eugenics, as only the smart survive.

redolas

Exactly. In a generation or two, the problem should be solved. All anti-vaxxers should die out, leaving only vaccine-lovers roam the earth. But not you, you're going to be just fine.

Or maybe not? If we are right, there will only be two kinds of people still alive: autists and anti-vaxxers.

Let the games begin.

KILLtheRATS

Vaccines are meant to hurt people to make the makers of the vaccines more money

ardvarcus

This mother should be outraged. The libtards did an end-run around her parental authority. They need to be sued.

voatHatesTheFirst

Never gotten a satisfactory answer to this.

If vaccines are so great and you got your kid vaccinated, why are you so concerned that other peoples kids get shots? I mean vaccines are protecting your kid, right? Right?? right???

Not relevant to this OP, but still.

Oltima

Vaccines only work through herd immunity. A vaccine allows your body to retain memory of how to fight the particular virus should you come in contact with it. However a small percent of people will not benefit from a vaccine and could become a carrier for an outbreak. Vaccines give your body a better chance of fighting the virus, but the virus can still get a foothold if you have enough exposure.

So because a) Vaccines are not a 100% cure and have never made a claim to be and b) Vaccines dont work on some people and those people depend on herd immunity... It is important that everyone gets the vaccine. Vaccines only work by mass immunity.

You can believe vaccines don't work, even though there is overwhelming proof that they do.

You cant say i got the shot so who cares if others don't. That is not how the technology works. Vaccines work by preventing a foothold in the masses.

elcob32

You can believe vaccines don't work, even though there is overwhelming proof that they do.

You are using the word vaccines as though they are all the same. The safety of modern vaccines should be measured independently from the safety of the polio vaccine for instance.

Also you're not accounting for a cumulative effect. Some of the things in vaccines could be harmful in higher dosages. With the increase in the total number of vaccines being given to any one person this cumulative effect may be a more serious issue than it once was.

SquarebobSpongebutt

I 100% agree that all vaccines are not equal. Any vaccine for a disease that is not deadly AND easily transmitted by sitting next to someone should not ever be required. Chicken pox, HPV, etc are all bull shit. Polio, MMR, and a very select few others are fine. Even tetanus is not communicable in a way that immunization should be required. We are definitely requiring way too many now.

Oltima

Right because those added points while valid dont have anything to do with the original questions context.

I was simply providing an answer as to why there is a need for everyone to be vaccinated for a vaccine to be effective. Side effects good or bad dont negate that vaccines require 90% plus of the population to actually work.

redolas

Isn't that a lottery though? We choose to save people who can't be vaccinated, and we choose to kill/harm people who can't survive the side effects of a vaccine. How many there are of each is the question here. Since humankind survived without vaccines for hundreds of thousands of years, my money is on not vaccinating.

Vaccine doesn't just happen to you while your walking on the street. Even if it is successful, it will create humans that need the vaccine more and more. At some point, life will not be possible without vaccine. Not today, not tomorrow, but any time is too soon.

The history of medicine is full of quack. The selling of snake oil abounds. They just started really helping people in the last maybe 3-400 years. Still, even today, doctors prescribe unnecessary, even dangerous drugs for daily use. People pay the big money when they're sick, not when they're healthy.

Even IF it works short term for some people, it doesn't mean we should do it. Since we have freedoms, you do what you think best, and let me do what I think best.

Oltima

You're arguing a point that im not making. I never advocated for forcing vaccinations. I never said vaccines do what they say they do. I only answered the question of why people want everyone to get vaccinated and the theory behind it.

redolas

Cool. Then, I'm not arguing with you, I'm just adding my opinion why the vaccination theory is flawed.

user4574

You want everyone to be vaccinated because 1) vaccines aren't 100% effective, and 2) some people are immunocompromised and can't be vaccinated.

ardvarcus

It's the same reason the liberal fascists are so concerned about the words you use. They want total control over you.

Dalai_Llama

Headline should read:

"Idiot mother has to be jailed so concerned father can have proper medical procedure performed."

Sharipie

You're one of those sheeple that puts total trust in the govt and medical people. You should do your own research and think for yourself. Ever wonder why so many people talk about vaccines hurting people? You should be curious.

ardvarcus

It's the mother's right to decide what gets injected into her young children. Not the state. Not the doctors. Not the liberal fascists.

Dalai_Llama

Read the article dipshit. The state got involved because the father has rights too. The father wanted the vaccines, not the state.

10796675?

Don't just blindly take CBS for gospel. In another article the mother claimed he was previously okay with not vaxinating but did it to piss her off or get back at her after an argument or something. This article says 50/50 custody was awarded after and the mother was complaining about not seeing the kid when she got out of jail. With my general knowledge of the courts and reading between the lines it looks like the dad did it as because doing what the state wants makes you look much better in family court and 50/50 is highly likely to have replaced something like every other weekend visits with his kid.

redolas

Pretty much the only time the state favors the fathers wishes, ey...

greycloud

you don't think facts are going to change the mind of an antivaxxer do you?

voatHatesTheFirst

Ya, I mean it's not like kids ever die or anything from getting shots.

Nanny state much?

Dalai_Llama

Read the article dipshit. The father wanted the vaccines. The state got involved at the behest of the father.

YoHomie

Give up the fight Dalai. The anti-vaccine cretins are pretty thick around these parts. They resist all efforts to expose them to common sense, science, or facts. You may want to choose a different battle.

slumbermachine

Yeah, pick a battle where people haven't seen the effects of it on their own children. It is poison and a racket.

voatHatesTheFirst

Exactly, dipshit.