WhyNoDonuts

Family is safe. Warn your friend not to borrow money from them and lose it three times.

bonerloner

yes, if you have talent or skill. whoever is working for a large government, federal, or even something like aviation company is scouting for new bait.

WhiteRonin

No.

Some just wander away and stop paying dues.

I'd suggest just doing that. You never know when you might need a favor.

englishwebster

ex mason here. member for a few years. they dont bother you at all. you need to give them a hand written letter explaining why you are leaving and really thats about it.

whatisbestinlife

and what if you didnt have nice things to say about them and you said those things to their faces before leaving possibly after some (((true nature))) ritual

englishwebster

only if they decide to go after you individually. its not like they have some hired goons waiting in the banks just for this purpose. realize though that doing what you did might have felt good at the time but almost certainly did nothing to change the minds of those you said it to.

whatisbestinlife

i didnt do it. and im not sure if relations are soured. knowing the persons i would say no but given the circumstance? maybe they knew something. just trying to suss out the potential scenarios.

englishwebster

think about the masons as a business networking group. thats the simplest way to look at it. they will support their own.

in reality, the masons is Judaism for non-jews. They teach you to keep to your own, to learn from each other, to support each other above all others, and that you are better than anyone who isnt part of your group.

in short, tribalism. but if you want to leave? provided you dont do any real damage you are fine. even insults isnt a big deal - you just arent worth the hassle.

as an side, how far did you get, former bother?

Wuttier

Could you elaborate on the kike thing some more? Kinda curious as I received an "invitation" to join.

englishwebster

its simple really - everyone hates the jews but there is a reason they are so successful and its because they really do focus on themselves and support each other in more ways than one.

synagogues for instance arent just churches - its where you take your children so both you and your next generation can learn about things outside of religion. they teach each other all kinds of things in synagogues and promulgate the notion that as a race they are "all in this together", creating a universal sense of family among jews, even those who might be strangers in real life.

The masons run the same strategy, and as a result they are insanely successful as well, namely that in "business meetings" - the standard get together - sandwiched between all the pomp and ritual might be a brother standing up and literally teaching the room how to calculate perfect right angles using nothing but string and the sun.

they push the notion the freeman, namely that as a mason you are the holder of something more than just the regular guy on the street, and remind you that if you go anywhere in the world you are welcome in a mason hall which you can access with the appropriate token and passphrase.

People are instinctively tribal and love the idea that they are special. Freemasonry plays into both perfectly, using ritual to subconsciously make you think like a jew - namely that you are "in this together" with your "brothers" whom you do not really know but will trust because of the shared experience.

if white man ever bothered to go back to his chosen religion and focus on making their own race stronger like the jews have done it would be all over for every other race in about 3 generations including the jews in terms of economic and cultural dominance of the planet.

instead, we call the jews kikes and talk about their destruction, much like what the blacks do to whites now.

whatisbestinlife

not a member. i didnt say anything to anyone. I can join but I'm concerned about being raped or sacrificed.

englishwebster

it doesnt work like that at all and if it did they would be shutdown. the only really wierd part of the whole ordeal is the initiation, wherein you are instructed to change your clothes to wear a suit provided by them, which will be designed to expose one nipple (to prove you are a man and not a woman) and one leg (to show you are not in shackles). your hand will be extended to show your fingers (unamputated fingers show that you are a free man, ie not a slave or property of someone else).

then its just a bunch of memorizing stuff and going through a semi complex series of rituals.

for what its worth its rather rare to see a jewish freemason - it isnt meant for them. masonry is their tool, not their structure.

whatisbestinlife

But I have to stick to blue pill thought and conversation, right? There is no talking about the JQ or political conversations allowed, correct?

englishwebster

Discussions about politics, religion and business are forbidden during the meetings, and discouraged heavily outside of them because even casual political differences creates discord which is the exact opposite of what they are trying to accomplish.

you must not be atheist either. Zero tolerance on this point. they dont care what religion you are, so long as you have one. if they find out you are atheist you are immediately kicked from the club.

whatisbestinlife

Do I need a god or can I recognize the morality a god can give to it's people? Do I think there could be a higher power? sure. Could it all be rooted in incomprehensible natural science? Can I tell them Odin is my god?

englishwebster

You have to be an open member of an official religion. agnostics of all flavours need not apply since to them its basicallty the same thing as atheism. part of the reason is that religion is a culture of its own, and adhering to one demonstrates you can adhere to freemasonry as well.

whatisbestinlife

well, I don't know what to tell them or what religion to join? I was raised Christian and good hearted christians do seem to gather with me and assume my faith until I tell them I don't believe in their god and that God's children are Lucifer's children.

englishwebster

In freemasony God is designed to be a generic representation that has little detail to it so that it doesn't offend anyone. They focus more on god being a mathematician than him doing miracles

whatisbestinlife

I've heard the "architect" reference before. now I have also heard that Lucifer is the Social architect, the party coordinator, the bad shepherd, the person who makes those molded in the image of the creator dance on strings, toil most of life to pay for said leadership and to kill each other for his enjoyment and spite for being forced to serve who he considers a lesser creature in the hierarchy of beings.

ardvarcus

You don't mess with the Freemasons, or you find yourself hanging under Blackfriars Bridge in London.

Merchant_Ammonia

Nah, they're fat losers.

whatisbestinlife

sure they are... i had to ask in a roundabout way but a member once told me they had specific people to act as muscle and hit men.

FortressOmega

No unless you get to the 33rd degree

whatisbestinlife

how long would that take? how high is that? it might be a possibility

FortressOmega

33rd degree is pretty much the top. You have to labor away in the quarries for years showing you are devoted, then one day you are promoted from 32nd to 33rd.