Why does the 'gravity' of the moon not effect Fresh Water? ( conspiracy )

submitted by iDontShift

Electro-magnetic energy effects salt water much more than fresh water.. so I have a reason to believe gravity is not what we have been told.

iDontShift

thanks? lol

old_grumpy_fucker

It does effect fresh water. You need to visit a lake large enough to notice it. Try Lake Superior. People who live on the east and west sides of all the great lakes are laughing at your post.

You don't notice the tides on smaller bodies of fresh water for just that reason: they're smaller and shallower. The larger and deeper the lake, the more you'll notice.

iDontShift

nothing like the ocean water. dielectric effects is amplified with salt water

True tides—changes in water level caused by the gravitational forces of the sun and moon—do occur in a semi-diurnal (twice daily) pattern on the Great Lakes. Studies indicate that the Great Lakes spring tide, the largest tides caused by the combined forces of the sun and moon, is less than five centimeters in height. These minor variations are masked by the greater fluctuations in lake levels produced by wind and barometric pressure changes.

Consequently, the Great Lakes are considered to be non-tidal.

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5 cm.. yeah, the people are really laughing hard on east and west side as they lose their boats to the 5cm rise in water... lol.

and twice a day? how does that work? if the moon causes it.. then how does it do it when it isn't there?

old_grumpy_fucker

The tides are there. And if you had actually ever lived there, then you'd know that. As I said, you need a large body of water to see it. Gravitational forces seem to have this really odd abillity to works straight through solid objects! Look it up.

While you're at it, also study the effect of twinned bodies in close proximity. You'll be well and truly amazed at the actual path of the earth's orbit.

iDontShift

lol. of all the things i think our government lies about... the lack of a tide in the great lakes ain't one of them.

TheBuddha

The moon is always there.

iDontShift

what little you know about tides. they happen about every twelve hours.

and apparently, which is new to me, the sun has a tide that is equal to the moon.

so the sun and the moon are exactly the same size (watch an eclipse) and have the same tidal effect as each other.

you don't find that a little interesting?

another interesting fact, our sky has neon in it... a ton.. and electromagnetic energy just happens to make it light up, which the sun is known to have... I found this video very interested...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GZhj9BbIXc

TheBuddha

LOL The sun and moon aren't exactly the same size. Hold your hand out in front of you and look at how it covers a tree. Is your hand the same size as the tree?

iDontShift

i know what we have been told, you missing the incredible 'coincidence' that they can block each other out.

TheBuddha

It's hardly coincidental, it's pretty easy orbital mechanics and well understood. There's not a whole lot of mystery to it.

iDontShift

the great mystery is that they are that way at all. in the 'big bang' version of the universe, things just happened to come together (via gravity) and chance would be the leading principle in everything.

in that universe such a coincidence must be noticed as a bit strange.

in a created world, it is far less 'spectacular' in one sense, because an intelligence that is unknowable would have intentionally made it so, therefor much less interesting in them being the same size.

TheBuddha

Strange? Only if you don't understand the numbers involved.

I have no evidence to support the concept of a creator, so you're on your own with that one.

iDontShift

what about the numbers makes it less incredible that they appear to be the same size, capable of eclipsing each other?

TheBuddha

The universe is huge, with numbers so large we can't actually conjure up a useful mental image of them. The eventual existence of those two objects is a mathematical certainty, given adequate time - and the universe is very, very old.

Actually, our moon is moving slowly away from us. In a few million years, the eclipse will be very different than it is today. Tides will also grow weaker as the moon gets more distant.

iDontShift

meh, i don't believe it. I did once, now it is just sounds ridiculous.

like i heard once.. having the solar system as it is, is like having a tornado rip thru a airplane junk yard and assembling a 747 that was ready to fly.

since i read that i've found much more proof of the connection between all beings, and I can in fact, by changing myself, bring what I want to myself.

an accidental world can exist in the minds of people inside a purposeful one, but a purposeful world, that responds to you, doesn't make sense in the accidental one.

one you step into a world with no accidents, looking back feels like madness.

TheBuddha

My degree is in Applied Mathematics which, I suppose, you could say is a blend of physical sciences and mathematics - with emphasis on mathematics. It's a pretty tough discipline but I enjoy the study - and still do, even though I'm retired today. At any rate, I have high confidence in the research - which is not the same as certainty. I'd never say that "I believe in science." I do believe in the scientific method, however.

I don't have any evidence that suggests the universe was created and, as much as we may not like it, there's randomness in it. See the decay rate of a radioactive atom - that's randomness.

However, I don't much mind what you believe or not. That's the beauty of humans - we don't have to all agree, we need only be civil.

iDontShift

indeed. i know free will is as it is, and it cannot be dispelled. peace brother, have a wonderful life.

TheBuddha

By the way, I'm not the one downvoting you.

iDontShift

meh, i care not. when you are right, you are downvoted more around here. all this trump worship is pretty disgusting in my eyes.