startstartstop

I posted this awhile ago my brother made this take the time to read the notes, about draconid meteor shower in october EVERY YEAR this same thing could happem next year, the president is not trying hurt people with weapons, This is something that has been happening on earth. There are electrical fires around meteorites and electrical energy and even sounds associated with meteorites that people dont understand.... https://youtu.be/DbYrZ5YDs3c

SChalice

The firemen did an excellent job saving what was important.

frooben

lal murifats cannot build proper houses

EloquentOgre

I saw a brushfire started by a lightning strike about 30 years ago - damn thing struck a bush with a pile of other chopped down bushes piled near it, windy summer day, during a dry stretch, about 30' from me. Hauled ass out of the area because it started and spread quite rapidly. Came back the next day and it actually looked similar to this, many trees green and healthy surrounded by areas of charred ground vegetation. It was odd how selective the fire looked, but some trees are resistant, some things just burn too quickly to ignite the trees.

madhatter67

Short term.thinking is pretty much what has fucked us over....of course the powers that be work on much longer timescales

wesofx

If no trees burn, is it a wild-fire? Looks like a chain of house fires. Conspiracy or we've been building houses with no consideration for fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_New_York

old_grumpy_fucker

Because they've fled the urban areas and moved into the hills where the trees are.

TigoleBitties

The real answer. After living here quite a while, my main lesson is don't live on or next to a hill with open terrain, and don't live on the flood plain. That's good advice for anywhere really, but here in CA ever hill burns every couple of years.

GumbyTM

ITT fools demonstrate their lack of nature knowledge.

Fast moving fires won't burn old growth. This is why controlled burns are a thing genius.

matt

there was a thread on one of the chans a month or so ago. alot of drone footage was posted. it was only up briefly

RubberHammer

This is the desired result of all controlled burns. It's the ecological goal of both controlled burns and naturally occurring burns. As @Rellik88 points out, many tree and plant species require this type of underbrush burn to propagate. It not only enriches the soil but it removes competing species. In turn providing a clear evolutionary advantage.

The really bad fires commonly observed in the 20th century are almost always caused by man preventing natural underbrush burns. In turn causing much large brush growth and dead material (trees and brush). Which in turn fuel massive fires which tend to kill off trees and brush which would have otherwise survived had man not interfered.

beece

The Pacific Northwest has some serious fires last summer. Mega thousands of acres. When the smoke cleared and they finally were put out and a news plane flew over to record the "devastation", shockingly there were large swaths and tracts of live tress mixed in with the dead ones.

slevin_kelevra

Another reason why I am glad my neighborhood is all brick construction from the late 1800's/early 1900's.

AnarchicAlpaca

I watched these fires. The real questions are how the fires were melting everything in sight, not just flimsy wood houses. Granted some were, but the heat itself of these wildfires is not consistent with anything a normal wildfire would give off. There are plenty of overturned vehicles, engine blocks ripped out and thrown around. It is not wind, although it helps stir the electro magnetic field and create combustion... Which is why you see obliteration not just burnt stuff. Aluminum oxide is dropped from the sky very often around here, which will help foster this combustion and make virtually everything flammable, and burn hotter. Most of the badly hit areas are blocked by police/military. A lot of people say they are directed energy weapons, electronic induction, etc. No conspiracy that these have been around since the 50s, after we stole Tesla's patents and tech following his death. You can watch videos of these weapons on Boeing's website in action. Hell you could buy some yourself... It is marketed for its "international clients"...

Look at the following areas on Hooktube: Gatlinburg, Tennessee. Poland. Alberta,Canada. Santa Rosa, California. And now Southern California. The damage and intensity of fire are all the same. It is coming from above, not wild. Too many firemen saying they have not seen fire like this, you cannot put them out with water. This is why entire neighborhoods are deleted.

MaxAncap

It's a revelation from PEPE! He has formed by our meme magic!

Aged

Trees are full of water. It's hard to burn something humid.

RageAgainstTheAmish

Do you know how fire works?

It burned through the trees. Those evergreens are brown. Theyre burned but it doesnt look like it because theyre full of water. The steam produced protects the trees from extreme heat but they will likely die.

turtlesareNotevil

How is this a wildfire? Doesn't that imply burning trees catching your house on fire? Is Cali still in drought? If it is the trees would have caught fire from the houses. Is there really a laser that can do this? Maybe the government should give Dr evil his million dollars.

Cuckman

I heard the SoCal fires were started by homeless people cooking shit.

slwsnowman40

And the one this week in San Bernardino.

old_grumpy_fucker

Some, but not all of them.

AnarchicAlpaca

That explanation was for a small (relatively) fire that burned in Los Angeles near the Getty Center.

There are zero explanations for both the fires in Santa Rosa/Napa Valley, and the ones currently in Ventura County (Northern border of Los Angeles County) called the Thomas Fire.

Also check out houses in Anaheim burned in Oct.

RonBennington

I heard it was MS13 in retaliation for the mass arrests

kujda

I assume the tree area is just much more moist than the houses made of dry wood, lots of plastic and other flammable materials. The trees don't burn that easily unless the land and soil have not received any rain for a longer period of time. You can see yourself if you cut a tree how moist usually the wood is. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on this matter could share his point of view.

11414804?

That's what I'd like to know- if ya get on calfire incident maps or reports these fires are technically (or were the last I saw) still under investigation.

RageAgainstTheAmish

The northern cali fires were caused by high winds dropping tree branches onto power lines due to the extremely long history of PG&E failing to conduct basic maintenance of tree trimming. The resulting blue explosions from transformers shorting out and exploding is the "lightning".

Power transformers are full of oil used as a coolant. When these things explode (which is very common) they leak out burning oil which is quite hard to extinguish.

Also, downed trees blocking main excess roads to these fires hampered response times of firefighters.

It all played out live over the publicly broadcasted scanner radios, and if you research the broadcastify.com archives and begin listening 5 minutes before the fire start time(all information available archived on calfire website), you will hear the shit the firefighters went though.

11415238?

Also these fires aren't happening in NorCal...

RageAgainstTheAmish

Holy shit are you retarded or ignorant we just lost nearly 200 thousand acres between mendocino, lake, sonoma, and napa counties during one wind store that caused fires and the fires were put out only 2 months ago.

11419563?

In particular the sonoma-lake-napa unit fire? The causes? Still under investigation. The fuck are you getting "tree branches" from? CNN? Oh and that's central valley, call it what it is.

RageAgainstTheAmish

Did you even read my comment?

Go to the broadcastify archives, look mendocino county archives for October 9, 2017. Begin listening around 22:30:00 [10:30 pm]. You will hear exactly what i heard at home on my police scanner that very night:

(for reference, Potter Valley and Redwood valley are separated by a ridgeline called Laughlin Ridge which travels north-south)

Reach 18 flying from Willits to their base in Lakeport flys over north western potter valley over Laughlin ridge southbound. They are the first to report "explosions with blue fireballs" in potter valley. They straight up say "looks like a transformer explosion". Potter valley fire is dispatced. While en route, the chief of PVF has his access blocked by multipule trees over the road, forcing him and his engines to reroute through peoples properties. Due to the extreme winds, the fire spreads from a blackberry bush to the surrounding vegetation and is quickly blown up Laughlin ridge. He requests a zone 2 first alarm about 15 minutes into the incident, which is one engine from every station in the county. While en route, the chief of Redwood Valley Fire (which is a town on the west side of Laughlin Ridge) witnesses a tree fall onto a high tension power line at the intersection of West Road and Tomki, (north west of the current fire) causing another transformer to explode, starting a second fire which was extremely close to homes. The 60mph constant wind we experienced that right pushed the new fire directory into the town of Redwood Valley. Unable to respond to PV, the RV chief requests his own first alarm due to immediate life threat. At about this time PVF chief finally makes access to the fire which has already began consuming structures. The community is so close knit, they begin naming off family names to reference homes, barns, and outbuildings which are total losses.

About an hour into the incident, the fires merge and begin to blow west, jumping hwy 101 and into the Ridgewood subdivision at about 02:30.

At this point i left my jome and drove to my friends house in redwood valley to help them evacuate their animals.

During the first bout of this incident, PG&E cut power to both Redwood Valley and Potter Valley, hampering the attractiveness of the reverse 911 system.

There were many factors that contributed to this, all you have to do is find the audio. All of this audio is available through www.radioreference.com

11415220?

Idk we just had pge come out recently and trimmed our trees. I see them all over in NorCal. California takes fire risk very seriously and always have. Now all of the sudden we got tree branches hitting powerlines? If that were the case the "wildfires" wouldn't still be under investigation.

RageAgainstTheAmish

Tree branches fall on unmaintained lines daily in northern cali.

11419786?

Nuns Fire - causes under investigation. Redwood Complex Fire, causes under investigation... This shit is super easy to find.

http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_cur_search_results?search=redwood+valley+fire&submit=Search

Look around yourself and if you find one that says "tree branches hitting power lines" then you know what, I am the biggest fucking faggot right now - if not... Well, sorry you live in the shittier side of California. Assuming you're actually a Californian.

RageAgainstTheAmish

Read my other comment and dont be such a cockhat people died because of pg&es ignorance and they will bill us fog it again.

11419625?

Fine, sure maybe one of the fires was started by the random branch but every single one? Also am annoyed that after visiting CalFires site they all pretty much say "under investigation" so honestly who fuckin cares its you dumb faggots in SoCal suffering but if I were a gambler I'd bet my money it was all arson.

RageAgainstTheAmish

They're still under investigation because PG&E has a lengthy history of blocking investigators from doing their job

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pge-san-bruno-pipeline-blast-20160809-snap-story.html

11420573?

Source or anything?

RageAgainstTheAmish

Holy shit are you asking me to pay for membership to radioreference and illegally stream the feed for you? Go fuck yourself!

Youre the same person replying to ALL of my comments.

I see through your ruse to attempt to entrap me into doing illegal shit. You're clearly a pge/fbi/cia/shareblue shill.

Dont ever reply to me or my posts ever again. I bid you good day sir.

11423610?

No. I can't help I commented asking for sources when ya already did. Good job you did well rebutting but most of the shit you linked was irrelevant to our discussion regarding the recent wild fires (san bruno, has nothing to do with topic). Also the articles talks about one lawyer who claims only one fire was started via branches hitting powerlines. ONE FIRE. What about the others? They all started the same, eh? I'll admit it looks like one of the fires started the way you so desperately want (bet you work for the lawyer since now you like throwing out wild accusations around like some limp dick piece of shit).

Entrapment? Wow? You are a special kind of retard... I now bet you are that faggot lawyer who thinks he can bring down PGE. Hope you do better in court than with me...

RageAgainstTheAmish

It's pretty disheartening to see that there are so many corporate shills on this website now, who are paid to discredit and disillusion people when someone comes forth with legitimate information and facts.

I hope you lose grip on the overhead bar next time you hang yourself in your closet dressed up as Batman trying to jack off with your auto-erotic asphyxiation fetish you degenerate faggot.

11425421?

I could say the exact same about you, pal.

Sullysq

Asking the real questions.

I remember seeing an article a week or so ago alleging that authorities were suppressing stories about arson suspects. The underlying tone was suggesting, but without confirming information wouldn't say, that the arsonists could be illegals or muslims. None of which of course has been confirmed or validated yet but the suspicions are there.

gentronseven

Is this a neighborhood where every black agrees to burn down his neighbors' house for insurance fraud? That was a thing in Detroit back when they had houses.

Jizzmaster3000

Deadwood burns a lot easier than wood that's alive.

4ChinSnacker

And because there has been no rains in cali this year the trees are crispy brown and at their dryest this year. The houses have been reduced to white powder, no black char like normal house fires. And the trees, leaves/needles and all are untouched being mere feet away. Every house is flattened, dustified. https://hooktube.com/fQy5CDDzhoc

Seius

They didnt have a drought this year, they had record rain fall.

4ChinSnacker

Santa barbara 0.07 in this year to date Santa ana 0.04 inches this year to date http://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov/monthly_precip.php

Stayedclassy

True. However a forest fire is completely different than a little bonfire. When the flames are 100 ft high you can't stand within hundreds of feet due to that heat. Its enough to melt the vinyl siding off houses or PVC window frames. Rain will only slow them down temporarily. By the time the fire actually gets there it doesn't matter if it was dry or wet. The heat has dried it up already. It will all burn. Just the matchstick trunks are left because they take too long to fully burn before the fire has already burnt up the branches and underbrush.

So I do consider the case in the above picture suspicious. Perhaps good firefighting protected the trees, they may have been coated with an inhibitor dropped by the bombers, or both. Maybe the developer skirted the rules as per the fire codes. Who knows.

Underestimating a forest fire is a good way to end up dead.

Othmar_Regin

Directed Energy Weapon

public_persuader

Sauce?

ScottRockview

Marinara please.

Othmar_Regin

See the movie "Golden Eye" ;)

wesofx

Play the game too. Unrelated.

porkings

It was actually a documentary.

The1andonlymeat

You are a stupid nigger. Look at Australia every fucking year you spastic mouth breathing cock sucking nigger.

NottaTrollNopeNope

You lick your mom's ass with that mouth?

Cantilever

Huh?

Dismal_Swamp

Be humble, bitch.

SocialistKiller

Implying what, that they somehow altered the properties of the fire to not spread to the trees?

shawnfromnh69

this is bullshit, glass explodes into shards when heated then falls out of a sill, tires burn and that is why tire fires are so hard to put out, as for the stone, well how about the wall are wood with a stone facade.

Apathy

Or all of them intentionally burnt their houses down.

ilovepussy

The government can't keep anything secret these days. Just look at the leaks coming out of the Russian investigation. You think they could keep hundreds of people quiet? That if somehow they convinced all these people to burn down their houses, with all their shit, and no one talked??

7e62ce85

Developer + insurance fraud. This doesn't have to be super complicated.

SocialistKiller

And somehow those didn't spread? Right.

Rellik88

Some trees are naturally fire resistant. The trees depend on fire to sprout.

OneTrueCube

This is correct.

Wildfires are an important part of the natural life cycle of highly wooded areas. They clear out all the weak and dead trees while allowing room for new saplings to grow.

The problem is when we build houses in the paths of the fire.

allogonist

It's a good evolutionary strategy for them because their saplings grow slower than the weeds which means if their seeds germinate at other times they will be strangled to death by smaller vegetation. Immediately after a fire they have lots of fertile ground and clear access to sunlight. Also fire season ends right before the wet season begins.

Pwning4Ever

Everything has to be a conspiracy though.

Nature finds a way to be resistant of natural disasters, but OP is dumber than a sack of rocks.

fuspezza

I see some pine trees in that picture. Pine trees burn.

GrandNagus

Yeah this post is fucking stupid, fire spreads through dry undergrowth, not the trees with deep roots and access to water.

4ChinSnacker

These trees are brown because there has not been any rain in cali this year. The ones in this pic are half dead. Btw, where are the porceline toilets, granate countertops, or steel washers/dryers? That shit dont burn or melt in house fire temps

slwsnowman40

These trees are brown because there has not been any rain in cali this year.

That's bullshit, it fucking rained in the Los Angeles Basin last night and was raining this week in San Francisco. Never mind the wet winter we had last winter.

4ChinSnacker

Santa ana has had 0.04 inches this year. And sf has 13% of normal so far this year. So cal is bone dry. http://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov/monthly_precip.php

slwsnowman40

That's wrong too. That 0.04 was last night, and doesn't include a storm in October or November that was at least a half inch of rain.

4ChinSnacker

You got a source or u just spitting shit? Change my mind.

slwsnowman40

Okay.

Here's Excel sheets for gauges in Orange County, CA - http://www.ocwatersheds.com/rainrecords/rainfalldata/historic_data

That should show that it has rained over 10 inches in Santa Ana for this calendar year.

Here's the current rain year (July 2017 to July 2018) in PDF - http://prg.ocpublicworks.com/DocmgmtInternet/Download.aspx?id=959

dayofthehope

If the trees are fire resistant but they depend on fire to sprout, then how can they ever sprout?

If the trees are naturally fire resistant, how can the fire spread through such trees (as in the above photograph)?

4ChinSnacker

Pine trees can be lit by a bic lighter nearly year round in cali. The trees in the pic are brown bc there hasnt been any rain this summer or fall and they are at their dryest of the year right now. And houses are flattened mere feet from these dried out trees. Not even black char is left like after a normal fire.

Heres an analysis of the santa rosa fire https://hooktube.com/fQy5CDDzhoc

rocketrouser

Usually the heat from the fire won't burn the tree but instead causes the pine-cones to open up and disperse their seeds on the newly burned ground. This gives them the advantage of an early start against the faster growing plants that would normally out compete the more resource intensive sapling.

Oh_Well_ian

ALL HOUSES IN CALIFORNIA ARE PRACTICALLY FIRE PROOF

holy fuck, you moron... why call it a brush fire if the brush is not burning and the houses are ?

Shocking that the public has been so fucking dumb down, that you're retarded post is liked.

o0shad0o

Certain types of conifers, yes. Those ain't them.

Maroonsaint

Yea I kept telling op that last night I was out of body experience teleporting I was whispering into his gay little Jew ear but he didn't hear it I guess

Othmar_Regin

Maybe the trunk and main branches, but the leafs? I don't think any leaf is that fire resistant

Subtenko

Depends on the type of pokemon. I think bulbisaur-..

hardshaft

There's too many variables to take into account to determine that for this picture. What's the type of trees, how moist was the ground / full of fluid were the trees when the fire started. And what were the houses build out of, how easily did they ignite?

If you're used to making camp fires, you'll know that some types of wood will ignite very easily, burns bright with a large vertical upwards flame that won't heat you up even half a meter from the camp fire. And after 5 minutes the wood has turned into ashes.

I could imagine that if the houses were all build out of such a material, easily ignited, burns mostly with high flames dissipating heat vertical, with very little glow value that the trees are mostly just scorched on the surface. Could be enough to boil fluid in the leaves, leaving them looking "sluggish" for a few days before they fall off, but not enough to ignite the tree trunks.

4ChinSnacker

https://hooktube.com/fQy5CDDzhoc

So many cohensidences in the santa rosa fire

hardshaft

Sorry, but I have no audio on my computer. What's the essence of the video?

4ChinSnacker

No worries. Heres the youtube mirror only because theres captions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQy5CDDzhoc&app=desktop Its mostly an analysis of the santa rosa fires pictures and video. It appears houses were reduced to dust, steel melted/warped which would likely require fire temps a few thousand degrees hotter than house fires should be. Assuming this is natural, pine trees and plastic trash cans places alongside these houses probably shouldnt have made it. But even assuming thats totally normal, the fires wiped out every house that was part of a city economic development plan that was developed years ago for santa rosa. Like a near exact demolition down to the street perimeters of this zone. Additionally, this economic development plan was taken down from the web when this fire happened. Which i personally believe is shady. Some parallels to how the wtc towers were dustified, rubble was unidentifiable and distinct objects and the rubble mass that remained was far less than there should have been... I personally am skeptical as to what is the truth. I just feel like we are being slowly conditioned to the absurd and illogical. Maybe. Dr. Judy wood has youtube/hooktube lectures about 9/11 if you want to go deeper.

hardshaft

No thanks, I'm good. Been pretty deep down the rabbit hole for some years now, and now I can't even attend a family dinner without members seriously considering calling either the cops or the mental asylum :)

Right now I'm just trying to stay focused on getting my gf pregnant so we can start a family, taking care of our dog and puppies, looking for a house to buy for us to settle down in and my work. All while I prepare for how we should survive WWIII and the coming economic collapse and white genocide

Sullysq

Fast growth pine and bamboo (the kinds used in most home construction) burn the way you describe, fast vertical and relatively cool. Vinyl siding goes quickly too. And very popular in the past couple decades is blown in cellulose (paper) insulation that would burn very fast, easily, and low temperature. Modern homes are a tinder box protected only by 1/2 hour of gypsum.

hardshaft

Well then, when you describe it like that, why don't we plant some of those eucalyptus trees nearby? Just to be safe, and then we take out a great home insurance.

ohnoitsaninja

seems like a good type of wood to build your house out of

yarbellsm8

It’s easier to keep a live tree from burning up, than it is to keep a flimsy house from burning down. Think about what houses are made of? Cheap ass shit. A shit box American house is like 50% wood. The rest is insulation, wires, and gypsum board. Houses are not as strong as you think, in fact, the actual conspiracy is how much they cost, compared to what you are getting.

slwsnowman40

I worked in IT for a new home builder. You wouldn't believe how cheap it is. Building one is expensive (close to sale value), but when built in groups of 4 or 5, it insanely cheap. It doesn't matter where either, the profit was bigger in California than Texas for example, but they aren't losing money. And this is just a stock build with no upgrades/options (like granite tile or countertops, etc). This was taught to us at our orientation and explained in detail at why we built the homes in groups that way.

Oh_Well_ian

nonsense

fucking retarded nonsense

BigMatteson

Yeah, until you kiln-dry it.

lettersofmarque

Good point, but it gives me an idea. Do you think anyone ever bonsai'ed a group of trees into a house?

ruck_feddit

I'm going to try it. I'll report back in 40 years. Stay tuned.

Tevelyn

I'll hold my breath

fuspezza

Hi I'm looking for me purple

Whizwit21

Film it for proof

Waiyu_Dudat

There's a tribe somewhere in the jungle that spends their work day training plants into place so they grow into shapes. They've built bridges and homes out out them, but I don't remember their name. It's slow, but once you build a bridge out of a living plant, it doesn't come down.

Goathammer

Yeah, friggin elves.

Neskuaxa

They make damn good cookies though.

BigMatteson

It's called a log cabin, homey.

Syndicalism

A log cabin is no longer a living organism. Thats what the bonsai house he implied is.

BigMatteson

Yeah, I guess.