shawnfromnh69

I was commenting on this yesterday, expensive yes, but this is a false flag event in action. I think now unlike what the media tries to tell you that if you have money find a stock in a company you believe in then if you have extra money then buy buy buy. I met a man that was talking about investments a couple of decades ago and he described a market like this as an opportunity for the long term investor. If the company is solid and down for no reason and use google to see if there is a huge lawsuit or scandal going on then I'd buy the shit out of it because in a bull market it's hard to find a good deal but now there are many great deals out there and it's just up to you to make the investment and then clean up after the next bullmarket and wait for another correction to buy again. Remember always invest against the grain because the big guys always make the trend and don't follow.

vastrightwing

Why yes. It's a rigged casino and it's manipulated like LIBOR rates, Gold fix, HFT, wash trades, stuffing, derivatives... never mind, I'd have to list everything. Every bit of the market is rigged. There is no part of the market not rigged. Some parts are simply more unfair than others.

llegendary

It would be worth all my savings in order to watch their heads roll.

Poohwhisperer

Said this out loud today..

Cheesebooger

Now we know that the stock market is connected to the FBI

pby1000

It should be treated as being a terrorist attack.

WhiteRonin

I was gonna post basically the same thing but glad I found yours.

It’s very interesting how the dem’s metoo memo is threatened to come out and wham, the market takes a serious hit.

The super bowl is not even cold yet so why would a bunch of people pull from the market?

Just doesn’t make much sense besides the dems threatening a serious blow to the market to pressure the FISA memo out of play.

NotHereForPizza

There won't be a crash.

It's just a threat

WhiteRonin

I tend to agree on this!

Ho-Lee-Fuk

Yeah this is a sure thing. If they are going to use a market crash as a tool to divert them it will have to be YYUUGGEE. if that's the case then Batton down the hatches boys.

WhiteRonin

It could be tool to pull off the dogs rather than divert.

I was looking for the right word and “insider trading” is wrong. This appears to be controlled market collusion. Send out a sell signal and let it drop just enough to panic people. People who didn’t sell and are holding long term are still up for the year. Profits were made today so no major problem in the long game.

But if enough rich democrats start selling then we could have problems.

shawnfromnh69

I bet Soros and some others all did huge shorts and are cleaning up on the losses. I would right now buy and ignore the gloom and doom talk and if you think a great stock is underpriced then buy it since it's your find and even if it goes down it'll go up again if its a good company.

WhiteRonin

Could be. They do seem to play against the market.

So, take that idea, apply market sell signals, they clean up and walk away with some cash and nobody really got hurt because it is still with this last 5 weeks of gains.

Interesting how today the market was up and down all day. Seems like somebody was trying to push it down and say traders were popping in to buy hoping for a profit. Just weird.

True about buying when low. Profit is made at purchase not sale!

PoundSign_999

I think it's a lot more sinister than that. They're going to 1923 this bitch. If they can't beat Trump with trumped up charges, they'll burn the motherfucker down. Tomorrow will be very interesting. If we see another day like today, say hello to Depression 2.0.

They want a war.

cm18

If they own enough stock, they can tank the stock market, but they cannot cause a depression without fucking with the money supply. Unless they have a way to drastically tighten the money supply, the worst that can be expected would be a continued recession, not a depression.

The great depression was not due to the stock market crash, it was because the banks tightened the money supply, followed by the EO to confiscate the alternative money (e.g. gold). History cannot repeat this time, because, even if they can figure out a way to tighten the dollar (which would be a miracle, because there's so many dollars wanting to come back to the U.S. anyhow), they would also have to outlaw alternative money... in this case... crypto (e.g. Bitcoin and Ethereum).

AbeFroman66

The stock market is tied to interest rates, and interest rates are tied to unemployment. When unemployment goes down, interest goes up. Last week's jobs report announcing the creation of millions of job caused interest to go up and the stocks to dip.

I don't believe anything sinister is going on. This is a normal correction after the record setting year on Wall Street.

New_years_day

I've actually thought this for the last year, I don't think the bit coin prices skyrocketing and plummeting is a coincidence either.

Remember George Soros moved a massive sum of cash not to long ago.

Its_Just_A_Ride

They want a war.

Fucking this, and only this. They don't drop the stock market to distract people. They only make moves this big when they want war. War is the only thing that will make them more money than they lose while causing a recession.

WhiteRonin

Good point about tomorrow. But I have a feeling the market is gonna float a day or 2 pending on the meToo memo. Today was just a shot across the bow.

I wonder who gave the sell signal?

aileron_ron

And I added to my portfolio after watching for this to happen.

shawnfromnh69

Smart man, a market like this is an opportunity not a problem and buying by more people will turn the market around and then the little people will have good cheap stock and the rich firms will not have the opportunity to buy it off when it's cheap if everyone else does first. It's a planned drop in my opinion with massive profit taking then a huge buyback with those profits with the big boys buying back large amounts of stock at bargain prices and still have a ton of cash left from the selloff of high priced stocks.

WhiteRonin

Smart as always buddy!

cuello_rojo

New fed chair sworn in today. Yellen just left and this guy Jerome Powell just came in. So this is "nobody's" fault, conveniently.

facetumor

New fed chairs usually trigger a sell-off

UlyssesEMcGill

How long is this kike's nose?

He might not be jewish, but he's probably still a rat.

Or did Trump appoint him? Our guy? Expose them from the inside and shut them down?

facetumor

Jerome Powell is actually a goyim. Maybe that's why the kikes tried to freak people out with this mini crash on his first day.

From his kikepedia:

In 2013, Powell made a speech regarding financial regulation and ending "too big to fail". In April 2017, he took over oversight of the "too big to fail" banks.

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Powell has been a skeptic of round 3 of quantitative easing, initiated in 2012, although he did vote in favor of implementation.

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In a July 2017 speech, Powell said that, in regards to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the status quo is "unacceptable" and that the current situation "may feel comfortable, but it is also unsustainable". He warned that "the next few years may present our last best chance" to "address the ultimate status of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" and avoid "repeating the mistakes of the past".

He seems like a moderate, but he does want to end the fed's refusal to let big banks and companies fail. That could be why the market is afraid.

fusir

No. It's a result of increased interest rates. The fact that people politisize one of the worst economic indicators is the real problem.

The only advantage stock has is that it gives the news something to report on once a day.

WhiteRonin

I was trying to find out what triggered this but the news is quite on what was selling big to trigger this. I probably need to dig harder but normally even msnbc gives out big sell offs.

The increase rates is the closest I found. But nobody is talking about that yet! It’s just speculation that they will increase because how well the economy is doing. Granted a rate increase will likely happen to slow the growth.

Could you clarify your 2nd sentence?

The biggest problem I see with the interest theory is that it would have to come from foreign investors since super bowl is still on peoples’ brains until after lunch. Patriots lost! The Eagles has control the whole game. Brady got hit and fumbled (not really his fault) etc etc ...

What is missing is that Schumer was threatening about his meToo memo on Friday. But still, it all comes down to who was giving sell sell signals. No company had a bad report and even Apple was ok with sales down and revenues up. So who?

A conspiracy could be that dem leaders sent out a distress call and triggered a sell off and the media played it up by flashing breaking news which pushed it to almost -1600 for the day. There was a come back but that was probably were the news hammered it back down. The conspiracy could be “insider trading” but in reverse mode.

Anyway ... there is just too much lack of data.

Lag-wagon

It's not insider trading when Congress do it.

shawnfromnh69

More likely rich liberal controlled investment firms driving it down to cover their own shortselling and making a fortune in a market drop.

WhiteRonin

Normally, I would agree. But then again you could be right. Catch the market after the super bowl would send the market into a spiral as it did.

But toadays trading is weird.

UlyssesEMcGill

Do you have a source detailing the interest hike, when it was, and on what?

I'm dreadfully incompetent today, and can't find it myself.

heuristic

then maybe you shouldn't be expecting us to believe you. i would agree your not fit for the conversation

UlyssesEMcGill

you're

A faggot.

You don't have a legit link outlining the tax hike

Samsquamch

Why are you calling it a tax hike? It's an increased interest rate, like the OP of this chain said. You really aren't fit for the conversation, but if you need someone to Google for you, here you go. Now quit being a faggot and embarrassing the rest of us:

Fed raises interest rates, keeps 2018 policy outlook unchanged

Fed Holds Rates Steady - Odds Are Up for March Rate Hike

More Interest Rate Hikes To Come In 2018?

Sharipie

No way an interest rate change would cause that kind of drop. This is a manipulation intended to cripple Trump and to blame him.

Samsquamch

Interest rate increases have been in the back of the news cycle for weeks to months...Yellen just confirmed many of the fears, so the market reacted to the build up after she left today.

Sharipie

I have a degree in Econ so I'm aware that markets react to fears of something. I don't think this degree of a fall can all be attributed to that.

shawnfromnh69

I heard they are blaming it on rising wages which is a good thing since many won't need to depend on welfare food so much and can actually buy stuff which should be a good sign but investors are kind of dumb when looking at numbers and not real world reactions to rising wages. Hell wages rising by a dollar is a great thing when it's not mandated but voluntary but try to tell millionaire/billionaires that, like talking to a wall.

totes_magotes

Exactly what treason is going on? There's a pretty specific definition of treason in the Constitution and everyone is throwing that word around like it's bitcoin.

WhiteRonin

Upvote for being technically correct.

But consider that Nixon quit his job over simple tapping and a slush fund.

Today we have FBI doing the wiretapping, the DOJ writing off on it due to major players wanting it done, massive amounts money moving and way more than 69 players in the game.

totes_magotes

It might be an over-simplification but I'd bet that if there were no money in politics, there would be far less corruption.

WhiteRonin

This!

Japan limits campaign funding and spending. But you can sit outside and talk people up all you want.

Corruption occurs but it’s mostly minor and child’s play compared to the US.

Its_ok_to_be_white

Treason - The betrayal of one's own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.

What isn't treasonous about working for the deep state? What isn't treasonous about uranium one, or white genocide, or arming and using MS13 as a political hit squad? What isn't treasonous about intelligence agencies and DOJ subverting the constitution to fix elections?

totes_magotes

No. The Constitutional definition of treason was put in the Constitution because nitwits kept throwing it around and changing the definition to suit them however they please. It was an epidemic when the Constitution was written.

These things are other serious crimes. But they're not treason. If you don't like the definition of treason in US law, push to have it changed.

Its_ok_to_be_white

They're treason if the deep state is an enemy of the constitution and the people, which it certainly seems to be.

totes_magotes

Alright, I can't exactly argue you with you on that point. I still think it's more sedition, even if we change "War" to "warfare" to include such things.

auggs

Wasn't it one administration knowingly used false information trying prevent another administration from taking over?

totes_magotes

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

Here, "War" is capitalized, ostensibly to indicate the actual art of warfare, not some kind of political move.

What you're talking about is "sedition."

https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=001/llsl001.db&recNum=719

UlyssesEMcGill

adhering to their enemies

The jews are Amerika's enemy, they're heeb slaves.

Treason.

And sedition.

And embezzlement.

And rape.

And murder.

And grand larceny.

And human trafficking.

And drug possesion.

And drug distribution.

And PERJURY.

I could do this forever, they've all committed not only thousands of crimes, but every crime imaginable.

auggs

Could it be considered adhering to our enemies?

Its_ok_to_be_white

Bullshit. The US is in a state of war, which makes it treason.

golgotham

Aint it just peachy how MSM's little ducklings all just step in unison, no thought whatsoever for the timing?

WhiteRonin

I’m sure their reporting added fuel ;-)