Jagon

Everything causes fuckin cancer.. who gives a fuck.

leaffur

Bulllllshit. I'd have cancer by now, lived next to radio towers for 20 years and I'm fine.

madmalloy

I've smoked cigs for almost 50 years without getting cancer so I guess that means smoking is good.

ShrekIsAwesome

There was a study done once where they saw radiation emitted from cell towers increased the permeability of the blood-brain barrier

Adam_Jensen_

Photonic radiation such as from microwaves, cellular, light, wifi, xray, FM/AM radio and etc. is absorbed by electrons which could cause that electron to shoot out and strike other electrons, assuming if that photon is of high enough frequency. This potentially(no pun intended) disrupts the molecular bonds. Xray radiation are high frequency photons with enough photon energy to disrupt molecular bonds.

However, the photonic energy in the spectrum of frequency which is used in communications is low. It is lower than visible light. Theoretically that radiation from cell and wifi should be less of a concern than visible light.

ThisNameAlreadyTaken

Specifically, if anyone here cares, this is the difference between non-ionizing radiation and ionizing radiation. The cutoff between the two happens in the UV-C band which is just above visible light and the UV-A and UV-B bands. That's why exposure to sunlight can give you skin cancer, but exposure to infrared (heat) cannot. This type of RF radio wave does not have enough energy to ionize atoms, so it is called non-ionizing radiation. This means the energy is simply absorbed into the body as heat.

YoHomie

I put my pecker on one of those towers once and instantly got dick cancer... had to cut it off and sew on a horse cock. It worked out okay though, thanks for asking.

TheresALOTofWater

I think it's hilarious they call this study with rats "large scale" when it pales in comparison to the real world application of microwave radiation. We are all technically test subjects in the largest experiment involving cell phones and towers ever. If there was a significant link between it and cancer we would be seeing it now.

Cell phones have been around for about 30 years. If they were actually as dangerous to humans as this study reports, associated cancers would be at absolutely epidemic levels, especially in urban areas where the spectrums are extremely saturated.

ardvarcus

I love seeing all the rationalization that goes on when a study on this topic comes out. It's exactly the same way that smokers rationalize about cigarettes. Why not just admit that you are addicted to your cell phone and won't give it up even if there is a good chance it is giving you cancer?

solvire

The higher frequencies get a lot worse too. Basically the same frequency as a microwave oven. I never wear my cell in my pocket next to my balls and try to always keep the bluetooth off. I'm definitely not getting airbuds. Usually my phone is in my bag or on my desk.

I'm not sure how people can continue to still believe that cell radiation has zero effect. I guess the Mark Twain quote is applicable here.

It's easier to fool people than convince them they were fooled.

CheeseboogersGhost

All cell towers should be chopped down

ProgNaziGator

Conspiracy!

What I've always heard is that our cells recover better from larger radiation doses. But it's the tiny doses that cause radiation corruption the body does not identify and repair.

What counts as big and tiny I dunno

canbot

in amounts that mimicked those that cell tower antennas give off

At what distance? The radiation at the antenna is a lot higher than any human ever experiences. If you experience sunlight at the source you will be instantly vaporized. But sunlight is good for you. This study is clearly not testing reasonable exposure to microwaves.

SocksOnCats

This. About 10 feet from a cell tower and you’re fine.

qwop

This study is clearly not testing reasonable exposure to microwaves.

They used up to 50 V/m , which is quite high, but is within the range of mobile phone usage with the phone being kept beside the head. You can measure up to 150 V/m even close to the phone.

However not to worry, there are many studies that show biological effect well below currently specified exposure levels. You can download the BioInitiative meta-study RF intensity chart from here, and see the intensities and observed effects:

http://www.bioinitiative.org/rf-color-charts/

solvire

Thanks for supporting data. Upvoat for ya.

Laurentius_the_pyro

It's naturalnews, they pretty much just post garbage and hope people only read the headlines.

FuckingInsaneGoat

Lol, they are going the MSM route.

Laurentius_the_pyro

It's a lot easier to sell a lie when it's based on a nugget of truth.

smokratez

Wait till they get the 5g towers up. Those will fry us.

CheeseboogersGhost

There will be none near jewish gated communities. Wait & see.

theoldones

the more people know about 5g dangers, the harder the time they will have putting it in

also, when not in use, keep your phone turned off with the battery removed and in a separate room.

ThisNameAlreadyTaken

Good luck trying to take the battery out these days. The non-openable case is not an accident.

theoldones

can the cases on those still be cracked into or unscrewed?

Subtenko

In a seperate room? XD sneaky batteries have roborix cillia and can make their way back to the phone ?!

theoldones

no

actually capacitors in the parts can hold electrical charge even after the battery gets removed, and some capacitors can hold enough power to run for hours.

do you even electronics motherfucker? i dare you to extract a capacitor and touch both ends to your tongue

Subtenko

My comment was about the "in a seperate room part"

Not whether or not electronics hold a charge

theoldones

and your retarded. if it has a charge, it can still run, and putting walls between you and the signal sheilds you

Subtenko

What does the battery have to do with that if it already has a charge

theoldones

a charge means the phone is not fully dead/turned off. many of the parts can be remotely turned on and and off

Subtenko

Thats what i was wondering if u were infering to

smokratez

I do not own a mobile phone my friend. I like to not nuke my own balls.

Gorillion

I like to not nuke my own balls.

t. has a special lady who does that for him down at the local strip mall.

RollinDaGrassTyson

Nor do I, but for different reasons.

ViperCarbz

Your neighbor has a tower 3 miles away. Enjoy your cancer, faggot.

smokratez

I am not gay. Why do you want me to get cancer?

chuckletrousers

I am not gay.

Still chowing down on that cabbage, are we?

YoHomie

He doesn't want you to get cancer, faggot, he said to enjoy it. The fuck, you can't read either? A retardfaggot, go figure.

smokratez

I am talking about how radiation from a mobile phone kills you. What are you on about?

YoHomie

Sorry, I only give retardfaggots so much of my time... and you've reached the limit.

wild-tangent

naturalnews.com

bullshit.

Laurentius_the_pyro

Rather it's a sensationalist misrepresentation of a study.

Tb0n3

Likely a bad study as well.

Norm85

I'm a gonna expand on this succint and technically correct answer. In short, this "study" is a classic case of p-hacking with small groups.

Borrowing a couple of copy pasta comments about this "study".

This is a better study than previous ones, in that it used "environmental" levels of radiation, rather than blasting subjects with an amount of radiation equivalent to laying your head on top of a cell tower for 22 hours a day.

However: out of 817 individuals in the control group, 2 had benign tumors, 2 had malignant tumors, 1 had glial cell hyperplasia, and 2 had malignant glial tumors. Out of 409 individuals in the highest-dosed group, 4 had benign tumors, 0 had malignant tumors, 0 had glial cell hyperplasia, and 3 had malignant glial tumors.

https://imgur.com/a/VeEUb

Rates are elevated, but given the differences in population sizes and the relatively very small differences in rates involved, this study looks like a very good candidate for the decline effect that's been plaguing similar studies for a while now. (e.g. a regression to the mean; that the effect numbers, being small, would disappear in subsequent studies.)

Any potential link between cell phones, or wifi, and cancer, still has the fundamental problem that we should have seen cancer rates rise dramatically over the last 15 years in populations all over the world, and ... we haven't. While there have been more and more findings on other causes for cancer (and preventable mortality, like heart disease), glial cancers aren't increasing in any manner suggestive of a link to ubiquitous environmental microwave radiation.

On the question of whether there has been any significant increase in cancer rates in broader society given our high uptake and usage of cell phones.

A Danish cohort study with almost 360,000 people found no statistical correlation between cell phone usage and tumors: http://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d6387

A UK prospective study of 1 million women had similar results: https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/42/3/792/2901734

Another study spanning 13 countries found some correlation with the highest use cases, but was cautiously worded that the effects may not be causative: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20483835

An Australian study similarly found no increase in brain cancer rates over its 30-year study period: https://theconversation.com/new-study-no-increase-in-brain-c ... (sorry, can't get the original source for this one -- had to dig it out of Google from memory).

A US population study from 1992 to 2008 found that incidence rates of glioma remained steady throughout that period: http://www.bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e1147

The CDC has a cool dataviz tool that compiles a bunch of data from 1999 to 2014 (the most recent year for which it's available): https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/USCS/DataViz.html (click on the "Trends" button near the top). The trend line for annual rates for all new cancers for that period is flat; brain cancers are flat too, although thyroid cancers increase over that period at an unsettling rate. The articles I can find on that suggest that some (though maybe not all) of that increase is due to changes in diagnostic techniques, e.g. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/878030

There have been studies with rodents that did find statistically significant increases, but -- as far as I know -- those have all had some pretty serious methodological issues, like unrealistically massive amounts of exposure or not controlling for the tissue temperature increases that can be caused by exposure to powerful microwave radiation.

All of the big human population studies that I know of have found either no correlation at all, or some correlation but at such small numbers that it could also be statistical noise.

If any large studies have found conclusive statistical correlation in humans between cell phones and cancer, I'm not aware of it. (And would like to be.)

Which is not to say btw that cell phones aren't dangerous. They kill people every year -- just not with cancer, but by being a distraction while driving. http://www.nsc.org/learn/NSC-Initiatives/Pages/priorities-ce ... . "A Deadly Wandering" is also a pretty okay book about this. Multiple studies described in that book found that, with very very rare exception, people could not safely drive and operate a cell phone at the same time, no matter how good they thought they were at multi-tasking.

GizaDog

LOL. Got any proof to back up your comment?

wild-tangent

norm85 seems to do a better job than I could with the time I have.

CheeseboogersGhost

oi vey cell towa's are great for goys!!

wild-tangent

...which is what, why Israel totally doesn't have any, right?