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Fateswebb

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead.html

That's because he died in december of 2001 and was kept alive only by US Intel groups.

solvire

Nice! Getting back to some conspiracy stuff. We have gotten lazy recently. We need to dig up some old stuff while idiots are busy watching Trump's every move.

Even soldiers who should know better, still believe the narrative.

Come on. We couldn't have gotten that many people out of 1 blackhawk anyway. Or whatever was left after the wreck.

CowboyXero

Not much of a reminder to a guy who's motto is "If I Don't See The Body, I Won't Buy The Story"

Personally, I saw a body. As for whose body that was, no idea. Could have been any body. Literally any body at all. I couldn't confirm it was Osama. All I had was whatever they showed me and I remain highly skeptical that it was Osama.

Justaddcoffee

He died in 2001.

killercanuck

Most of the people who found the house in Pakistan ended up getting side lined. There were about a dozen or so couriers who kept getting caught and another Pakistani raid on a nearby building that yielded a ton of VHS tapes, video game cartridges, and cigarettes filled with Fenethylline aka captagon. Saudi's were probably still using Osama to import drugs from china this way via the pakistani border. Op probably got faked so Obama and the corrupt Saudis could keep importing their drugs that flooded the middle east. They were probably just relocating him so he could keep running their drugs.

SparkS

it might be but... The most blatant lie was that Pakistan’s two most senior military leaders – General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, chief of the army staff, and General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, director general of the ISI – were never informed of the US mission even if this shit for me is beyond obvious... i never had doubts about pk knowing whatll happen there nevertheless in this situation teoreticaly osama died... there is the chance indeed not to be killed but if pk knew about it a thing of which im sure then its higly likely for that to be a kill mission... just my opinion ofc...

RedPillTime

I don't know if you're ready to see what I want to show you , but unfortunately, you and I have run out of time.

SpoonBoy

I didn't say it would be easy, Neo. I just said it would be the truth .

BoraxTheFungarian

I often wonder how much of life is a psy-op...

Pop-up-king

i think it all is....

NeoGoat

There are some philosophies/spiritual perspectives that say this whole existence is just a dream. On a more practical level, that is one of the key questions one should always keep in mind. kudos

People get lost in the secondary questions, like "How many angels dance on the head of a pin?" and never question the underlying assumptions. There are a great many items that western society pushes as truth. Most people don't put in the time and effort to wake up.

Der_Untergang

Most of it. The question is why? To keep people out of the blue, to maintain plausible deniability, and for control

pizza_mine

Russia bots are here.

ardvarcus

Something is not right about it, you can take that to the bank. Why no photos of his corpse? Why no video of the raid released? Why the extremely weird and improbable burial at sea, with no independent witnesses? The whole business stinks to high heaven. Maybe he's still alive somewhere, maybe his family were given back his body and Obama and Hillary wanted to conceal the fact. The cover story cooked up by the Obama administration sucks.

Men13

Why no video of the raid released?

I agree with everything except this.

You don't release videos of your special forces' tactics and capabilities.

solvire

yes we do. All the time. But only when appropriate to the marketing. You can't get much off those vids anyway.

NeoGoat

Why care about a little grainy "Video"? There was a whole movie made about it. You can trust it's accuracy. /s I knew a guy who watched the movie and assumed it was completely accurate. He human mind gets confused, especially if it is not intelligent, vigilant and skeptical.

Yes, the government gets protective, but, practically, I really doubt the tactics and capabilities differ that much amongst the highly trained forces. They probably outnumbered the guards 10 to 1, assuming any were awake. It was a surprise night raid by highly trained special forces who use night vision and knew the layout of the compound.... ducks in a barrel. Also, they could have released censored video, especially of the body.

I do agree we have no solid information about this or much else regarding 911, but the official line is not reasonable. @ardvarcus

Men13

but, practically, I really doubt the tactics and capabilities differ that much amongst the highly trained forces.

Them you are wrong. The tactics are different, the hardware is different, and some of the secrets are so small and mundain you wouldn't even know it's a secret if your saw it - but it's enough to endanger any future mission if it comes out.

NeoGoat

Thanks, I was,speculating.

0rion

Not to mention all the operatives involved died in a "helicopter crash" shortly after.

solvire

That was a different group. That was my first reaction when I heard about it but it's different guys.

CowboyXero

It's odd because I keep hearing stories of (Insert Rank And Name), part of the SEAL Team that killed Osama bin Laden

NeoGoat

I think 1 or 2 were not in the crash, but the crash might sorta demotivate them from going off-script. @Orion

selpai

Nah, a french newspaper wrote that he was in Dubai getting dialysis treatment a few months before 9/11/2001. He was allegedly visited by people from the CIA, French intelligence, and the Saudi's. I always assumed that he died there.

NeoGoat

Thanks again. Summary: S. Hersh wrote, in 2015, most everything about the killing was a lie by Obama. There were no weapons in the compound and not evidence of burial at sea; it was simple assassination. Pakistan cooperated. On top of everything else, the international vaccination effort was damaged by a dumb cover story.