lord_nougat

Wow, I had all of those things today! No wonder I feel so god damned manly!

csp

What vegan bullshit? You can't accept that fact that we can be healthy functioning human beings without torturing and killing animals?

You can't accept the fact that weak plant based phytoestrogen have no effect on male (and female) hormonal development? Not to mention men have been drinking "estrogenic plants" for centuries, it's called beer.

Yet you seem to think consuming animal flesh and secretions (milk, eggs), which contain strong animal hormones is some how better?

If you want heart disease, then smoke and consume excess dietary fat/cholesterol.

If you want to reverse heart disease and improve your health, eat those things which have been proven time and time again good for us - vegetables.

Dougal_McHaggis

You know that plants are alive and probably intelligent? Capable of problem solving and making predictions. That they basically scream in agony using chemical signals to other plants when they are being eaten?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andreamorris/2018/05/09/a-mind-without-a-brain-the-science-of-plant-intelligence-takes-root/#4bea4bd176dc

csp

All the more reason to torture and execute billions of animals while simulatenously destroying the environment with excess run off, consuming millions of gallons of fresh water and more PLANTS than humans would consume... right?

Let's see what two-bit article you can Google next, dummy.

Cathat

If this was true my friend would be the hulk instead he’s dying of heart disease

Mr_Mee6

Thats probably due all the carbs hes eating that you conveniently didn't mention. Cholesterol doesn't cause heart diseases its the carbs. Tell him to cut it out his health will improve.

paunchy225

Ha. I did not realize that

Halstan

Where did you hear about tobacco? I haven't heard that.

Dougal_McHaggis

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17163954

Smoking men had significantly higher levels of total and free testosterone compared with men who never smoked (p < 0.001 and <0.01 respectively). Both total and free testosterone levels increased significantly with increasing number of cigarettes smoked daily (p < 0.001). Smoking men had 15% higher total and 13% higher free testosterone levels compared with men who never smoked.

Halstan

Couldn't that be true to other unrelated factors though like life choices? I'm not trying to disagree, but im just curious. When I smoked I didn't feel more potent if you know what I mean.

csp

It doesn't matter either way, it's simply an observation - the negatives from smoking far outweigh any benefit a higher testosterone level brings.

There are much healthier methods to improve your testosterone levels if you truly are lacking in that department.

Seventh_Jim

I think OP has causal link backwards on that one. Men who smoke are less risk averse and don't give a fuck. Its why smoking is cool.

Halstan

That makes sense. Stress is a huge component of potency. If you're chill you're potent.

Le_Bucheron

Yeah I heard hot-dog sausages have the most testosterones because they also grind the animal's balls in the mix. Make sure you don't cook them so you don't destroy the enzymes. Faggot.