QuestionEverything

They don't make any money by saying no.

WagonBurner

Job security.

VoatMobile

Bad eyes? Eyeglasses.

Crooked teeth? Braces.

Broken bone? Cast.

Depressed? Antidepressant.

Gender confusion? Always give opposite gender hormones + install or remove penis.

Tom_Spanx

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"Again, what comes out of this is 'what do we do about the kids that don't need therapy?', alright, like I really struggle- there are lots and lots of kids I see that don't have dysphoria, that really don't have mental health issues, and so to say to them, 'you have to go get a letter from a mental health provider' feels... challenging to me, and so what we've started to do in our clinics is have someone like Dianne or Mare(?) go in and do kind of a brief assessment, and give their- I know you said you don't 'rubber stamp', but, you know, basically, in my mind, that's sort of what it- what it feels like, um, so that we can say 'okay, now we can move on and talk about what your actually here for' so we don't get kind of caught up in that, um, and then, you know, if there's le-"

So the "rubber stamp" phrase is used to mean giving mental health-related approval to kids who don't need to see a psychologist because they don't have any mental health issues.

The real problem here is enabling medical transition in people who have no medical reason to do so . Why would you want to transition if you don't experience dysphoria? It's a pain in the ass, the results usually aren't great, and even the best results in the world are only an approximation. No-one should want to go through that ordeal unless they think it'd still be better than continuing on as they are now... but the kids they're talking about apparently feel just fine. What's the (((motive))), then?

I really do think there are people with some kind of underlying condition that makes them want to be the opposite sex. None of their options are very good (transition, tell yourself that's not actually what you want, live a lie), the disorder/s have been warped by postmodernist leftists to fit their society-destroying "nothing actually means anything" message, and, related to that, it's caught on as a fad diagnosis. It's hard as hell to conduct research or even have a productive discussion about transsexualism, and all the while, people are suffering either from inadequate understanding of their condition or from being "treated" for a disorder they do not have. Everyone loses. I feel sorry for them.

MaunaLoona

The real problem here is enabling medical transition in people who have no medical reason to do so.

There is never a medical reason to do so. If I think I have no arm is the solution to chop my arm off? You can't treat a mental illness by chopping off your genitals.

Tom_Spanx

Body Integrity Identity Disorder and transsexualism could both be a lot of different things, but even if they're socially-"transmitted" mental illnesses, it's not enough to tell someone that and expect their problem to resolve: there needs to be an understanding of what's going on neurologically so a targeted treatment can be developed. Otherwise, these people's options are "keep it to yourself", "talk about your feelings", and "drastic, permanent body modification with long-term health consequences", and no matter how well someone manages to keep it together, if they can't be offered anything else, the last option will always be appealing because it carries the potential of actual symptom relief.

Adrint

My country has enough bogs for these people. What about yours?

barraccuda

The outback is a large and unforgiving place.

lord_nougat

Holy shit! I thought that they decided 'conversion therapy' was ineffective and wrong! Typical leftist consistency and logic!

1Iron_Curtain

This is the psychological community for you. They don't treat the problem, they just treat the symptoms and try to modify them, which in certain cases, especially in the psychiatric community is all they can do.

They are also heavily bought into the liberal conceptualization of society and how it should work. Its pure abstraction without any practicality and it advocates for a form of self-experimentation that is more dangerous than any drug.

They are just pushing these people into the meat grinder and not actually treating them as having a mental illness and that is generally part of the larger society, but then again the core of psychological thinking is to make you a "normal" member of society.

elitch2

Okay, you're wrong, buddy.

I have intimate knowledge of this field. Most psychologists are more scientist than therapist.

They are, however, ruled over (world wide) by the AMA. The AMA is full of kikes. The AMA& the APA jointly decide the content for the DSM (the diagnosis Bible).

Jews got homosexuality removed as a mental illness by lobbying the APA.

Lobbying in science should not be a thing.

1Iron_Curtain

How can you consider psychology a proper science, when the classification system is not so exact and when you have an overlap between different psychological disorders and generally a poor clarification of certain psychological disorders, especially personality disorders, which are produced by cultural bias.

I am not trying to argue with you. I am not expert on really anything, but I am interested in your feedback. I don't see how there is a real concrete and empirical object of focus and end goal, which is the essential property of a true science in most case, or the capacity to abstract certain notions and theories from something put in practice.

With behavior its not so easy, because you are talking about a multitude of things working together, such as environment, micro-society/macro-society, and biology, along with disposition and emotional styles. Historically speaking, most of homosexuality, outside of Western Europe would have considered homosexual normal behavior(even the ancient Greeks and to a lesser extent the Romans believed this(although I don't consider the Romans to be fully Western European).

Ironically, its only the West these days that openly supports behavior that is not permitted in other societies and cultures(probably because they realize what a huge threat to their societies functioning and because of religious perspectives).

At the base core, homosexuality is a mental illness though, because its a violation of basic natural principles and contradicts the urge to reproduce. Its that simple. There is no need to psychologize it, which is highly dangerous.

Its flat out wrong and not for social and religious reasons even, but because it spreads disease and de-incentivizes reproduction(the scientific approach).

You can't do a science of how mind correlates to behavioral phenomenon without a proper understanding of how the brain works and the complexity of environmental rearing and biology.

elitch2

Psychologists study the mind and it's relation to behaviour, not "behaviour". It is a science, in that experiments are meant to be reproducible and follow the scientific method. Double blind studies, controls, etc.

Think of the Milgrim Experiments. That's psychology. Experimentation to determine truth.

The problem is that it was the first science to be co-opted by the fucking commie jew fuckers.

The DSM 1-3 classified homosexuality as the mental illness it is.

1Iron_Curtain

Behavior in what context though, as modified by thought-mediation, as understood as modified by perception, or as modified by reactive/emotional output/input. It needs to be distinguished. If its thought-mediation its trickier, how do you identify a mental illness through a form of "thought"(I am not talking about thought in the classical sense, but small trigger points and micro-perspective out that shapes general thought and which certain behavioral patterns and traits are triggered).

I bet they will find that a lot of mental illnesses are "thought-triggered," which ties back into environment, society, and sometimes as wild as it sounds biology. You will especially find this in a variety of personality disorders. Mood disorders are a whole different beast.

You can replicate models and reproduce them to come to some general understanding of mood disorders, but until you find the chemical patterns and dynamics that manifest themselves in the specific mood disorders you won't be able to dichotomize and even then doing so will be very hard, because archetypes and differing categories, like Bipolar I, Bipolar II, Hypomania are in fact very hard to find a scientific proof for.

Its generally reducing things to generally well it seems like there is a variation. Well, duh, even in the world of science variation happens within a certain group and pattern of behavior, cognition, and base personality expression. They do apply Occam's razor in a sort of misguided double-edged way, seek generally greater complexity, but in a kind of watered down and over-simplified way. The key is to understand the general pattern and how the individuated cases fit into that general pattern.

Technically, this would not be exactly a scientific approach, but it has scientific grounds and it is hard to replicate/reproduce the model, beyond a mere perceptual and what I consider emergentist perspective, which explains why its not a cold hard science and can never be, except at a kind of rudimentary manner and in an unusual way.

You can replicate broader phenomenon and say well we see this kind of pattern over a spectrum snd therefore we have found a truth, but understanding the various complexities is harder and something science has not made leaps upon as of yet. Trying to fuse it into one integrative system ends up creating issues and is the problem with industrial psychology, which is a catch-all and one-size fits all incorporation of different methodological approaches at the level where it no longer becomes psychology, but a social science.

Psychology straddles that line between science and quasi-legitimate science, but using the classical scientific method is absolutely, absolutely retarded and does not account for individual cases and the non-dichotomized spectrum that exists within psychological dichotomy. Its not that psychology pretends to be a science, but that it stretches things too far and dichotomizes things so much to the point where it no longer is scientific and this in fact is what has allowed politicized and left-wing forces, like the Frankfurt School to inject themselves into the study, the softer side is the Habermus crowd, that sees the core of psychologism as being traced back to some convoluted and indeterministic(anti-evolutionary psychology) perspective, which is part truth, but inherently and subtly a lie, but a lie is carried forward on a kind of Nietszchean model.

You can't replicate things when you fit them into dichotomies in the context psychology does and with the amount of content/knowledge that can be imparted on our understanding of the mind and its correlation to behavior. It is relation as you say, but the correlation part is poorly understood and the current approaches and trends in modern psychology has taken it in some wild directions and so you are going to get a cultural bias in the replications/reproduced models and then a lot of hypothesizing around that model of thought.

I think psychology has got the perceptual element locked down, well mostly, or as good as it can and there are some out there who treat things well by not overdosing with drugs. The main thing is understanding the reactive/emotional aspect and how it fits back into "thought-trigged" behavioral patterns and this might seem easy, but its much harder than people realize and it can be very individualized, yet it fits back into a dichotomy that we can quite our hands around. Example of this is why did classical liberal and even Democratic thinking led to the modern left become like Communists?

We also need to understand how this can modify perception to either give the appearance of a mental illness, more of the personality disorder range, but in the case of liberalism, a definite mood disorder(let's have unchecked sex, rape, and plunder and make that the basic operation for our society, like the Barbary Pirates and Ottomans(Islam is a mental disorder too by the way taking that into account).

Its not "thought-triggered," but rather its socio-environmental and how it can effect basic biological/chemical trigger-points in the brain and is essentially an is issue that fits into own category, its purely behavioral is triggered by the emotive/reactive sphere of the mind, which proves how much free will, socio-environmental forces, and behavioral aptitudes(personality disorder at times too) are tied back into this phenomenon.

I would classify homosexuality and transsexuality as a personality disorder that morphs into a mood disorder. There we go I agree with them, came up with a new category, and then overthrew the whole core of the argument. I hope future psychologists can think of this. It also shows how understanding, not dichotomizing the emotional/reactive sphere of the mind needs to be understood in the context of how behavior works back into modifying the perceptual apparatus of reality and how this affects emotive/reactive dispositions, rather than just saying emotive/reactive is just something that is almost inborn and that it differs significantly from the chemical/brain state, but is some sort of internal extension of mental states that are heavily influenced by the "dichotomies" of "thought-triggered"(which shape the reactive/emotional aspect are tied back into biology/chemistry) and the perceptual apparatus as affected and driven on by behavioral patterns that are not technically considered a form of mental illness, but work themselves into that direction, due to freedom of will indulging itself in social degeneracy and tapping into it.

I think there is probably a racial component at play, but this is sort of common sense and does not really get to what differentiates races at the level of consciousness and cognitive mechanism. Psychology is essentially at best like a study of Virtuvian man's physiognomy and how it ties back into a broader categorization of mental states(I will discount mood disorders), but the real psychological disorders are liberalism, Islam(to varying extents and its less severe than liberalism(more so its original framework), and finally anything LGBT).

I also would like to include modern psychologists who believe in mental dichotomies and pressuring people into them and politicized/industrial psychology(its highly susceptible to mental illness, so those not pointing outs its dangers and anti-individualistic nature should be considered as having a fixed personality disorder).

1Iron_Curtain

Thank you very much for this. I read the whole thing. Also, when I was talking about industrial psychology, I was not talking Organizational Industrial psychology, but my belief is very socio-industrial, which is proven in how many different forms of psychology there are.

It tends to lead it "Balkanizing" things, because how difficult is to get someone to start "thinking" and developing that mentality for a specific job. It can be used to condition them to not necessary perform a quality job but only follow some crappy system of protocols and regulations.

I guess I am a bit of an anarch and this is how society functions and works at a kind of common sensical level, which is understandable and I get it. That is the kind of thing you can make a science of though.

Its more the conditioning element is experience, observation, practice, a little bit of engineering/manipulating, making it more subjective than it would appear in a certain context.

I just don't see how this validates psychological classification. There is always a new way to fix certain things as psychological illnesses when in fact claiming them as mental illnesses can serve as the grounds to justify their existence(not homosexuality, but definitely transsexuality). Transsexuality is worse than a mental illness.

It cannot properly be classified as such and such a classification is a grave insult to those who have legitimate mental disorders. They have shown rapid-onset gender dysphoria is bogus, but what about things like late-onset Gender Dysphoria and Blanchard's classification system for transsexuality. It all seems bogus.

I think things like late-onset Gender Dysphoria are due to a very radically feministic society combined with child abuse and bad rearing(bad "thought" and "micro-aggressor"(I am reinterpreting the meaning that is applied to micro-aggression) influences that push it in that direction. I think Blanchard's typology is an invention based off mental states that exist among certain effected people's when they have reached the stage of no return(they have so engrossed themselves in the ways of transvestism/transsexuality that they feel/perceive themselves as such and it was all pushed and reinforced by behavior/"thought" complexes.

I think it is tied back into a kind of an invented Reichan notion of negative orgiastic and sexual energies can corrupt people many generations down the line in such a manner where combined with the sexual degeneracy and radical feminism of the era it makes people perceive/feel they are transsexual, but once they start thinking about it they get real confused and don't know what to do. I think in this context its all bogus, but as a psychologist what say you?

elitch2

https://invidio.us/search?q=universally+prefered+behaviour

The gender dysphoria thing is a very dangerous fad.

See the recently suppressed Brown study.

1Iron_Curtain

I disagree with the premise that all ethical systems are subjective, therefore all are bad. Cultural bias can be a good thing and is missing to some extent in our societies.

Ethics become bad when they proscribe solutions that believe that since their are universal value systems that it means first "equal" political rights should be bestowed upon all peoples in a society, without some form of qualifier(ethnicity is included) and that there is an absolute criterion to justify the application of ethics on an international/humanitarian level in the same manner(believer in situational ethics in this situation and a kind of quasi-utilitarianism when it comes to application on this level, with a certain kind of pragmatism balancing things out).

I think there is a certain context of ethics at least on a localized level and even back up to a national/constitutional level where it is subjective.

Christianity probably facilitated, harbored, and allowed ethics to stagnate as it focused more on abstracting ethics in a theological format(the other world) and the fact that morality/piety took greater precedence(morality is essentially, but like intuition its meaningless without some organized system of content inputting back in categories that people can conform to, which is what ethics is essentially about and sometimes social conditions bring about their reform and is essentially what that chronicle is about).

I somewhat agree with Stefan Monolyeaux, but thinks he stretches it and does go after the main flaws(he goes after it all as bad).

Anyways, I was asking for a psychologist such as yourself to lay out how bogus such things as Late-Onset Gender Dysphoria and Autogynephilia are, because the Brown Study only dealt with how social pressures and social media outlets serve as a way of inducing rapid-onset Gender Dysphoria.

fellowkikepeople

(although I don't consider the Romans to be fully Western European)

That's a bizarre thing to say. You do realise European civilisation (both western and eastern) has its foundations in ancient Greece and Rome?

1Iron_Curtain

The Romans were probably more Western European than modern day Italians, but like modern Italians they sort of had a little Turk in them. Greece is overrated, but Rome is not.

Rome would have collapsed on its own accord, because it became too Asiatic/Middle-Easter. This is something Gibbons points out in part. Cosmopolitanism and the merchant-cult did the Romans in and it imported Christianity with it, which was supposed to be a revolution against it, but turned out to be the other side of the same coin. European civilization has its roots in Paleolithic Europe and Neanderthal Europe.

That might sound bizarre, but when you understand the complex mechanisms and dynamics of civilization, society, et cetera and how humans work at a base level(the down-to-earth psychological approach) you realize that ultimate the base constitutive order of why Europe is great goes back to Paleolithic Europe/Neanderthal Europe.

Sounds conspiratorial, sounds ungrounded, and sounds bizarre, but its basically as "true" as true can get and there is far more empirical evidence for it when you trace things back civilization ally and anthropologically at a kind of brute level.

Germanics represent the core of indigenous European civilization, all the rest are part extra-European invaders.

fellowkikepeople

The Romans were probably more Western European than modern day Italians, but like modern Italians they sort of had a little Turk in them.

They "sort of had a little Turk in them" like "modern Italians"?

I'd like some sort of source (other than your post) on both those things. Keeping in mind that the Ottoman Empire never conquered any of Italy and Modern Day Turkey didn't exist in Roman times.

Greece is overrated

If you think that, then you haven't read enough .

European civilization has its roots in Paleolithic Europe and Neanderthal Europe

It's called "civilization" not "we-can-only-just-make-fire".

That might sound bizarre, but when you understand the complex mechanisms and dynamics of civilization, society, et cetera and how humans work at a base level(the down-to-earth psychological approach) you realize that ultimate the base constitutive order of why Europe is great goes back to Paleolithic Europe/Neanderthal Europe.

Sounds conspiratorial, sounds ungrounded, and sounds bizarre, but its basically as "true" as true can get and there is far more empirical evidence for it when you trace things back civilization ally and anthropologically at a kind of brute level.

It is bizarre, conspiratorial and ungrounded.

Germanics represent the core of indigenous European civilization, all the rest are part extra-European invaders.

Are you German perhaps?

1Iron_Curtain

Some modern Italians, especially from Southern Italy, have ties back to ancient Anatolia and Armenia. Its proven and you can find out more about it when you test Italian people's genetics, which I have. This does not make Italians Turks, but it means they share some likeness, quite disjointly. The pre-Socratics were the best thing about the ancient Greeks. There was no more honorable man than Homer and the "Dark Age" Greeks.

The city-state model was a progressive social, political, and economic model and degenerated into the kleptocratic tyranny of Alexandria the Great with all of his Caesarism. It degenerated with the Ionic invasion and that is why Greece was sort of literally like a city on a hill. Socrates corrupted things with dialectical reasoning, which was far too binary and did not answer problems of first principles and scientific quandaries.

Aristotle did a good job trying to fill this gap, but his first principles are derived from scientific models and ungrounded claims(the whole the universe is eternal, the uncaused cause, the circularity of the earth as a state of its perfection; this has proven as pretty much true in a certain context, but the general line of thinking from it proved grave consequences that infected Pythagoreanism and modern day Christianity), and Plato was well an idiot for saying "forms" are replications of real classes and groups of objects. He reduced everything to a mental phenomenalism, which is part of the problem with modern Christianity and Western philosophy. Descartes tried to break the mold and ended up getting stuck in a rut, but did the world a service.

The Greeks had a good direct democracy system, but it was too centralized and cosmopolitanism wielded too much influence over the system, so tyranny set in and it ends with Pericles. "Civilization" is overrated and has proven to be vulnerable to collapse. Its greatest and longest lasting success was the Roman Empire and I doubt the path we are heading we will last longer than the Romans did. "Civilization" is best understood at its highest point as Roman in nature. It just needs to be reworked and restructured. Also, they had dentists in Northern Italy 14,000 year ago(primitive form of dentistry), complicated musical instruments, for the tools they had to make them, very elaborate and complex cave paintings, et cetera.

They could not help that they were so busy trying to survive, that their climate was unfavorable, and that the pressures and "thought-complexes" had not developed so to express and put their highly sophisticated cognitive powers to work.

They tried, but when they moved out of the Tundra, they ran into agriculturalist and pastoralist peoples, who had complex social hierarchies and divisions of labor/power, and adopted according to an already indigenous fisherman/horticultural culture(which has been proven by Mesolithic findings):

http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/herblore.htm

Civilization is far more complex than "civilization" and Western and primitive societies have understood this. The reason we are becoming more degenerate is because we have lost our rugged backwood quality and the rugged individualism that comes with that. The greatness of our people's past is undeniable and its why scientists want to cover it up, so European ancestors look dumb and unsophisticated.

This greatness is replicated in Western civilization and was replicated nowhere else, except on a smaller and less innovative scale in East-Asia. Its not hard to trace the correlation between past higher cognitive processes and the societies and civilizations of the modern era. Its like making a correlation between mind and behavior which can be done at a base level, but it does not catch the finer details and does not allow to say well this means all Westerners are extraordinarily intelligent(which is untrue) or that geniuses are generally individual cases(which is partially true, but needs to take into account Western society has produced a greater quality and quantity of geniuses than elsewhere).

That tones down the greatness and puts in perspective and does make us invulnerable from becoming Luddites of sorts. It is bizarre, conspiratorial, and ungrounded, but is has a certain element of truth, which cannot be replicated in the psychological sciences or really any science. The main problem is it can be hijacked by cultural bias, so I give it a margin of error.

I am not going to say its absolute or its Teleological, but it has a certain spiritual component. Its your choice to blow it up or not. If the claims that LGBT is psychologically normative than my claims about civilization being sort of a fraud in a way, but important in its own context(the communal, productive, and political-ethic-intellectual sphere) and that European society is great because of something inherent and almost quasi-thought triggered that than permeates to the perceptual(perceptual reasoning) and emotive/reactive level(verbal intelligence) is undoubtedly something that can't be denied and is much Truer about anything coming out of the LGBT, because some circumstantial scientific proof has been found, because we can dichotomize societies(even when they are fluid) in a certain kind of way abstracted from a purely psychological perspective and because the spectrum in which we identify the mental-behavorial-perceptual apparatus at work is something we can observe to a certain extent and in a certain context and it makes itself in variable way over a certain group of individuals, to a lesser extent the middleman, and then you have a certain group of outliers.

This is truly a scientific approach and in certain cases like this we don't need to replicate much, but take in different statistics(psychometrics), the great neglected form of intelligence, common sense, and find the underlying components that produce certain structural and neural phenomenon that explains certain dynamics, process, and phenomenon of the European mind that has translated into civilization success.

Occam's razor applies and complicated it is unnecessary, because its does not contend with mental-behavorial phenomenon in the strict psychological sense nor does it follow the rules of chemistry and biology at the base level of physical motions and functions. Its only bizarre, conspiratorial, and ungrounded because its so far in the past and seems that way, but for one who has spiritualized and personalized it in a certain kind of context it makes sense using a kind of fuzzy logic.

I am not fully German, I am part Prussian and Prussian has sort of a Balto-Slavic flavor, so no not fully. I think its more conspiratorial to dismiss past influences than to say that certain cultures, such as African, will end up producing a Black Mozart, a Black Kant, or a Black Einstein. They have actually had very minor great-minds like this that have produced this phenomenon before and it proves that we should not expect anything to change. Here is who I am talking about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevalier_de_Saint-Georges

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Wilhelm_Amo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Ernest_Wilkins_Jr .

JesusRules

how did you get so smart?

1Iron_Curtain

Not really that smart. Just Nordic God men, common sense, and intense pious perspiration is the recipe. All white people can do it if they will it.

JesusRules

You are Oden! thank you

N3DM

Psychology is bullshit. They can't replicate 80% of the studies. The whole notion that's it's a science is based on some laughable assumptions about humanity.

1Iron_Curtain

Also, forget to say psychology has the potential of going far out there. Originally, it was part of the misapplied eugenics movement, which threw all mental defectives into the same category with other social misfits.

It is based off a misunderstanding and broadly defined assertion that tried to work into a more complicated scientific framework. In Freud's case he just used a particular culture, inbred people(like Jews) and social degeneracy(which was marginalized in society), as the base core of a more "convoluted" scientific framework.

Jung just believed we were "fixed souls" and "mental states," which is closer to the truth, but does not pick up the complexities, and its not an issue of mental plasticity(which is only superficially/artificially true) and that psychology should be treated as catharsis and a coping mechanism and that the end results should be the dazed/stupefied individual(Jung showing his Daidist tendencies) or generally an overtly socially self-critical individual who constantly questions self(the whole notion of collective conscious at work and the need to be "normative" and it explains the whole LGBT phenomenon in my opinion and justifies it).

Jung thought we were "dead flesh" expanded in some spiritual center and Freud believed well we were just dead flesh that others should fuck or that our entire life is fucking dead flesh. They convolute and bring mental states and behavioral patterns into it to justify it and in a scary kind of way modern psychologists have extrapolated upon this and broken up the dichotomies and replaced them with a more complex classification of various "spectrums" of specific mental illnesses, such as transsexuality that they claimed are due to biological/chemical things, but in reality never claimed what was the reasoning behind it and had no empirical evidence for the biological/chemical aspect.

They are the biggest charlatans and multiple people's lives have been destroyed and forced into a corner to conform with "social norms" and the psychological legitimization of social degeneracy. It was not long ago that people who masturbated were considered to have a criminal aspect, but pretty much all doctors and psychologists say it is natural and "enriching." That stupid fraud Wilhelm Reich basically legitimized things like masturbation as such.

He claimed it had a spiritual effect that empowered the internal stasis and dynamics of man. All it did was made him more vulnerable to the subliminal messaging in society(Reich believed it created a subliminal effect that allowed one mastery over the others, but really he was talking about those poor unfortunate souls in quasi-scientific or should we say at its base core pseudo-scientific language). They can only fall back on the catch-all and one-size fits all integration of different methodologies, categorizations of mental states(that are self-created and produced by external forces), and peer pressure(which is what we saw with that recent study) to accord with certain behavioral patterns because they are "socially" normative. I get the importance of social norms and the psychologism behind and driving society, but they use the underpinnings and dynamics to justify all kinds of distorted beliefs. These people should be imprisoned or better yet deported to some place in the South Sea.

They can't replicate anything at all and much less point out the individual cause-effect relationship between certain things like mental-behavorial correlations in liberals, Muslims, and LBGT, because a lot of it is socially engineered and reinforced by degenerate behavior.

Its a toxic cocktail you can't disprove, because it carries its own instinctual/Nietszche wait and you know what the antidote is, well its obviously showing how European genetics leads to higher forms and mechanisms of cognition and allows for a cleaner application and then drive that instinct/Nietszche force against them.

It will send the hordes of people psychologist like to grapple, "guard," and "tend" to running for the hills.

1Iron_Curtain

Psychology is essentially a legitimate and upper echelon social science. Its not an actual science in the sense that one can work a concrete premise and find something that is universally true or is true in a certain context. You can make out certain behavioral traits/behavioral patterns and tie them back to mental states and then pinpoint the overlap between certain mental traits and their phenomenal expression in certain cognitive and behavioral patterns. That is true especially for mood disorders. The problem is when they start building everything into a dichotomy and have a convoluted system of classifications to justify their typification of a certain mental illness.

They will have all these classifications such as that there is the schizotypal, there is the depressive, and there is the histrionic version of this specific mental disorder, but its meant to just show that they think mental states and their various phenomenal expressions and traits are not "consistent," but in reality it only proves they have not been able to fix down what the different archetypes representing the range of a certain mental state represents.

It then becomes highly subjective and is not exactly scientific, because it shows they can't identify what a certain mental state means and how it correlates to brain/chemical state. This is actually one of the major arguments for things, such as transsexuality. They claim its because a certain part of the brain, I think around the amydaga(the part that regulates emotional states) is shaped and formed in the womb in a manner that does not align with gender assignment, so its cause is hormonal and chemical imbalances in the womb.

A part of me says it is BS, because how can they prove and what does it matter, if they cannot notice any major cognitive differences between the brains of women and men. The emphasis is wrong. That said our environment is absolutely abortive, whether its due to diet, contraceptives getting into the water system/other chemicals in the water, like fluoride, and whatever drugs people are taking. Even though this is pseudo-scientific, too much sex during pregnancy can throw off hormonal/chemical conditions in the womb, and it shows I am trying harder than even all the amateur and certified psychologists.

They can't replicate studies because there are no fixed laws or theories that science works on, they just create a model around a generally sound empirical model, where one can identify mental states quite easily(because mental states are usual simple, like facial expressions) and are tied back into emotions, which are far less complex than modern psychology likes to make it out to seem. That said, even when understanding mental and emotional states it is impossible to explain the archetypical and personality characteristics attached to them and ground them scientifically. Its part of not understanding the complexity of the brain and how micro-thoughts and micro-behaviors/internal world of the person correlates back out to actual behavior, because it can be so individualized, volatile, and inconsistent.

Its rare you find such fixity and usually you see it in things such as schizophrenia. They just draw up some facts plug it into a system and then mess with variables and models in such a way as to not necessarily fit a certain conclusion, because they can't, but because they have too rigid and complicated an understanding of emotions and mental states and how they modulate behavior and because they can't quite differentiate behavioral traits and patterns(and their symptomatic expressions) from mental states and emotional dispositions. Read about Kraeplin's dichotomy for an example of this and those ahead in the psychiatric and psychological world like to break from this model. Its why also some people who hold onto it and the cultural bias attached to certain personality disorders, like Schizoid and Aspergers, end up holding some people into the psychologically ill category, because they express a few superficial traits, and this is why so many people are on drugs or are getting mental therapy(wasting their money) which ends up ruining people's lives.

Its all tied back into being a "socially normative" and "functional" person essentially, but in the meantime they don't consider hardcore social degenerates(like child porn/pedophiles/LGBT as mentally ill but encourage their problems). It also unfortunately leads to a kind of politicized psychology and is used to justify it as most of that industrial psychology bull crap conditions and legitimizes in a very loose manner. These people are essentially more devilish than the feds. In reality though liberalism is a mental disorder, at least the far-left varieties, because their is a belief that progress means going backwards and going backwards is going forward.

Its an ideologically driven mental sickness, because it breaks down all that is natural to man and has been built up by him for millennias. I call it idiot leader and self-gratifying(sort of Mother Jones like) leader disorder. Things like Schizophrenia though are more than emotional and mental issues, but rather a perceptual flaw that is sort of produced by a misfiring of the chemicals in the brain.

Stressors can trigger it as it did with the mathematician, Mr. Nash. They also fail to acknowledge social issues and social issues are easy to identify and tie it back into how it affects mental and emotional states. This does not mean psychology is not valid as a social science and psychiatry is well on its way, once one gets off being stuck on drugs and getting out of the psychological dichotomies, but it will take a greater understanding of mental chemistry/biology and how environment/ecology and society play off each other and feed back into the mind and how mental ideals, like liberalism feed back into it.

Liberalism is a mental disorder and that needs to be acknowledged, at least the part that wants to drive us backwards.

We will give psychiatry at last a chance of becoming a legitimate science in the future, but it would even then have to be a highly unusual and individualized science.

green_man

The only rubber stamp for "trans" should be to the asylum, along with an automatic sexual abuse and child abuse investigation for the parents.

GapingAnus

It blows over by itself if you believe a recent and controversial Brown University study which also mentions the role social media fueled trends have in this.

In fact close to 80% of children who feel transsexual will abandon this feeling as they age .

Another indication that this is externally produced is the fact that 53% of mothers of boys with "gender identity disorder" showed symptoms of depression or borderline personality disorder as opposed to 6% in the general population.

The solution seems obvious.

IntelligentObserver

This kind of mentality reveals the evil that has taken over people's minds.. this is how to destroy society and the innocence of children.