Conspirologist

Both Assange and Musk popped up from nowhere like the new messiahs. They might be clones, or humans under mind control. I don't remember nobody who tried to criticize TPTB being alive and well.

discobiscuit23

Deep fake.

auto_turret

I couldn't stomach Jones' utter misunderstanding of what the giants of physics taught us right in the first few seconds.

kalgon

But then I think about all the people around me and like 2 or 3 exceptions aside I couldn't care less if the whole lot of them ended up in a terminator nightmare

Seriously, think about it, how many people around you do you really care about? 1% Less? The rest of them are like, what? Anonymous morons you don't even want to know or have anything to do with, it's just that you're forced to share the same physical space with them/to interact with them to buy things and shit, but really they wouldn't be there who fucking cares, good fucking riddance eventually

I mean it's true, and they probably feel the same about you or me

For that reason alone it's fucking hopeless, the course of events will remain on its trajectory and shit will happen

NSAiswatching

Best to create multiple that people can choose to or or not interface with when they become an adult? I figure with automation you wouldn't need many to do the maintenance required to keep us alive. They already exist in a basic form, so if we aren't stopping them now then they probably won't self improive to destroy us. Honestly, I'd rather stop it in an international treaty now.

TheWheelofTime

It's odd that as a people we're trained to automatically discount the ideas someone brings up simply because we don't like them. The things Alex said to Rogan in that interview were all true. If anything, he held back on saying them for years because he knew that people by and large weren't ready to hear it. Regardless of whether or not you believe in a God or Gods, that doesn't change anything in regards to where the world is headed or what is happening.

Most of us are willfully ignorant on what is going on in the world. We spend our time watching race baiting garbage on CNN, Fox and ESPN and being pissed off at Kapernekick or whatever his name is when we all we have to do is simply not watch it or not buy Nikes. We're not living in the 50s anymore, despite what the television keeps trying to get us to regress to: petty race wars, petty fights with each other at work, people scheming at some non-sense job thinking they are a Lanister or a Stark. AI is here. It's here more than they're telling us. Immortality, at least in some forms, is already here. The same can be said for space travel. The world we think we live in, as commoners, is so different than the world that the wealthy elites of the world live in, it's similar to the Dark Ages, where the commoners lived around 26 years and wealthy lived 2.5x that long, where commoners were often retarded and cross eyed and the wealthy had 40 IQ points on them, where commoners thought there were monsters at the edge of their lord's estate and under bridges and the English royalty were manufacturing fake wars with their cousins in France, when it was all in the family the whole time. People believing we really know what is going or how the world ran is simply a combination of arrogance and ego. I see what I can see, what I can deduce but I have no idea what is really going on. I can only go off the information we are given but it seems that 98% of people out there can't even do this and want to deny the 4th industrial revolution altogether. AI will only become a problem to most of these people after the meteor hits.

discobiscuit23

What meteor?

kalgon

"2+2=4"

-Barbara Lerner Spectre

Put like that it's hard to agree with this one

Atkho

Hey guys look over there it's pedo space vampires!

TheTrigger

Look at how many shill accounts there are in this thread, talking shit about Alex Jones. Seriously, everyone: take a few minutes and hover your mouse over the names of accounts that are disparaging him: all shills. Every last one. Food for thought.

ardvarcus

Look at how many shill accounts there are in this thread, talking shit about Alex Jones. Seriously, everyone: take a few minutes and hover your mouse over the names of accounts that are disparaging him: all shills. Every last one. Food for thought.

I've noticed this. The attacks on Alex Jones in Voat are too vicious and too systematic to be natural. It's obviously an anti-Jones campaign by leftist shills, who will use any argument to poison Alex Jones in the minds of nationalists.

Adam_Jensen_

Very strange how some come out very quickly and say to not watch or listen to him.

I find some of his documentaries to be very good, especially with Alan Watt.

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=VllwRgSECcw

Redditsdead

Asking in earnest, how do you tell a shill just from a hover?

TheTrigger

Lower than a -20 comment score; some even have lower than negative one thousand ccp. If you're just having conversations, or even shitposting: it's hard to achieve that. Takes a special kind of antagonist to score negative CCP. Others are aged accounts (at least a year old): that you've never seen, but have really low CCP (or super high SCP with no CCP) but they've started randomly spamming inflammatory responses all over a thread. No one could post like that, for so long, and keep their scores so close to zero without intentional fuckery.

freshmeat

For the most part it's obvious shills but there are plenty of people who can single handedly censor you into the negatives on this site if they wanted to. So don't always dismiss people who get brigaded unless it's obvious. I agree with what you said tho

Redditsdead

Shoulda messaged it. Maybe delete it haha

That all makes sense. Thanks bud.

TheTrigger

Nah, that's just the tip. I'd rather put it out there, 'cause it might at least get rid of/scare away the low hanging fruit.

thebearfromstartrack

Last Train to London....Just leaving town. -ELO

UberDouche

Alex Jones is Bill Hicks. No need to go off on simulated reality to find a huge conspiracy looking you right in the face. Do the research goats.

lemon11

Okay. Certain features like the ears don't fit, but okay.

So what?

UberDouche

Not sure what your question means. Are you conceding and saying so what? Seems like a pretty big psyop doesn't it? If they faked Bill Hicks' death, how many others do they fake?

lemon11

I'm sure quite a few. But what impact does that have on us? I don't care about Alex Jones's personal life, or whether his Jay-Bauman-looking co-host is the reincarnation of the only-recently-deceased, elderly James Dean. Sometimes he can make a good argument, and he wears his multiculti civnat beliefs on his sleeve, so we know where he stands with his Jew ex-wife. Anyway, he rustles the right jimmies.

They're news casters, not prophets.

Except for maybe Patton and Marilyn Monroe, which is why they had to die.

UberDouche

I'd say it goes to how much bullshit we're fed. You need a lot of legal help to fake a death. That means authorities are in on it. IDK about you but I find that level of deception mind boggling. I also question why it's done other than to mislead and confuse people. A lot of money goes into their psyops.

TheTrigger

Alex Jones is Bill Hicks

With the seemingly large number of suspect accounts parroting this phrase, as an attempt to discredit him: it's just making me think that said theory isn't true, anymore. Even though I've been on the fence about that for over a decade. Especially in the earlier years, when he resembled Bill Hicks way more than he does now.

Just gonna go ahead and assume that anyone who keeps reposting the sentence in question is one of them "Russian bots", from now on, and downvoat it all.

13753199?

Leftist retards got triggered by people asking for Obama's birth certificate, so to prove they are retards who cant meme, the made a counter-story about how Alex Jones actually recent times' funniest philosopher and person of highest integrity: Bill Hicks.

No idea what the morons thought they'd accomplish by that, especially since its OBVIOUSLY false. NOTHING fits the theory. The retards probably never heard of Hicks or what he is about, or they are even dumber than I give them credit for, and I honestly dont believe thats possible.

TheTrigger

Well, back in the day —I'm talking before CSS and JavaScript were even a thing; YTMND was in full-swing and Slashdot was still a huge deal— I remember the theories popped up, and from what I remembered it made sense.

Before YouTube, when I'd only be able to find his vids on Limewire or IRC. Ran in to him one day, clickholing through random dark corners of the web. Before I'd even heard the theory, there was one video of his, that I saw. From really early AJ (might have even been the first "documentary" that he ever made): I remembered thinking, "huh, this guy really looks like Bill Hicks. He even has some of the same mannerisms and speech". This was a video of him infiltrating a Bilderberg Group meeting, or Bohemian Grove (where Skull 'n Bones types worship Moloch); something like that. Anyway: part-way through the video, he's sitting in his motel room, just ranting, off the cuff, about what he was witnessing and his theories. And he kind of goes on a tangent— and almost quotes, word-for-word, one of Bill Hick's ending skits: where he talks about life being a ride, and humans coming together in peace to explore space. It was uncanny. Combined with my earlier thought on his appearance, when I ran in to the theory: I was more inclined to believe it might be legit.

He did only surface after Hick's death, and some of his back story doesn't check out, like where he grew up and went to school, from what I remember.

Either way, you're 100% right: that just makes me admire him more, if true. It means he went undercover, to infiltrate the deep state, and gave up a burgeoning career to do something he felt was more important. While at the same time, distancing himself from his past to avoid getting his loved ones hurt, in the process. That would take balls made out of mythril and would be worthy of praise. So, yeah: way to have their gay lefty memes backfire.

13754253?

Aight, I hear you. Might have been an easier job for me, since I know all Hicks' material by heart since childhood, and didnt hear about this theory till a few years ago, when there was plenty of material easily accessible for research.

The two could have run into each other, Hicks' work partner worked with Jones, so Jones could easily have seen Hicks' performances. Might have been where the inspiration for the speech came from.

TheTrigger

True, that's a good angle that I've never heard. I just try to not lean too-far one way or another, until I know something for certain . But when I see a concerted effort to have me believe and/or dismiss something, it raises all sorts of red flags. Nuclear console going haywire, Simpson's style.

Crikes

Great discussion. So evident throughout just how relatively free Rogan is, especially relative to Elon. To wake up and find the Air Force weighing in.. not a surprise.

I found it interesting that while discussing Texas, they agree that even though Texas is predominantly one way, it's fine to be a liberal there. That they don't care if you leave them alone.

I wonder if they'd be willing to say that the opposite isn't true, as is increasingly obvious as of late.

bb22

Conservatives in general are more tolerant than they reputation we are given. It’s the liberals who are intolerant of differences.

TheWheelofTime

Texas is that way. Like Austin, San Antonio, Dallas and Houston were always very different from one another. Those cities were always very different from East Texas or the panhandle. Then came the nomadic parasites from CA. They fucked up their state then move to Austin and other big cities in TX and try to spread the disease, vote in SJWs and suicidal radicals who hate their race and country. TX has always had a lot of immigrants, both legal and illegal but when you declare a city a sanctuary city, it ties both local and federal law enforcement's hands to go after violent drug dealers, pedophiles and other criminals. Worse maybe, is the fucking cities like Austin WELCOMING the homeless. They piss and shit everywhere downtown. There are needles everywhere. Any judges handing out lengthy prison sentences for hard drug use are quickly brought to heel or forced out.

This is one reason why in TX you're seeing a large push against Islam, gun grabbers and immigration. It's not just coming from the whites but the mestizos and some blacks as well. This is my biggest problem with liberals. They take over a state, declare sanctuary cities, invite in homeless then when the cost of living goes up, crime hits sky high, they pack up and move to another state they haven't fucked up yet and do the same thing in their new home. The place they left before, states like CA, NY and Michigan, will never recover from the cycle of poverty they created, one that starts at birth with babies being fucked up in the womb by junkie moms, the homelessness, the massive immigration, the criminals running free, the corruption, the dysfunctional and over priced public utilities, the corruption at all levels of government... these people destroy whole societies, pack up and move on to the next one. By the time they run out of places to run, the whole country will look like CA.

Pwning4Ever

A major reason why it won't repair is because people will never vote to have their gibs taken away.

1Iron_Curtain

We all know Alex Jones is right pretty much. Alex Jones is good and so moderate the establishment has to go after him because he represents an existential threat to them, because he reaches out to the common public. We need our far-right version of Alex Jones.

Alex Jones is sort of like the Wizard of Oz. In the end game, he brings out the cryptic details and draws out the truth from myth.

Walketh in man of the white Robed Hooded variety. You are to revive a new kind of "round table" and "Knight's Templar."

fuckingmockies

Alex Jones is controlled opposition. How are people not getting this by now?

bb22

He’s a gatekeeper. He takes you so far and no further. Not everything he says is bullshit.

MaunaLoona

They kicked their own controlled opposition off the face of the internet? Explain how that makes any sense.

Crensch

"Street cred" with the right who are also being censored.

Gotta have SOMEone in there looking like one of the boys.

draaaak

Maybe they're trying to provoke a violent response that can be used to justify furthering the police state and/or anti-conservative/white agenda?

TheWheelofTime

I don't get the need to point this out. I don't trust Alex. I've seen him run many other people out of alternative media, people that could have became something. I've heard all the rumors about his drug use, etc. I used to live in his neck of the woods. I don't think the guy's a saint. I don't know how much he is or isn't controlled. I don't like his method because he puts fear and panic into people. That's the only way some people will listen and at least those people aren't voting liberal. At least they're aware as consumers. At least they're supporting the 1st and 2nd amendments. I also know Alex holds back on a lot of what he wants to say and there is a lot more he speaks about if you can read between the lines some. I can't say what is his mental state is. Sometimes he's a raving idiot and other times he's laying out the facts as brilliantly as anyone can. Is this his mental state or all an act? I don't know. Does it matter?

I'll say that I think that at least he goes deeper than the mainstream media outlets and at least he promotes families staying together, having children, gun ownership, freedom of speech and being prepared. Vitamin salesman? Sure. Fear monger? Absolutely.. but I'll take him over the mainstream fear mongers and sellers of junk food and abortion any day of the week.

I don't spend a lot of the time watching his show because of his attitude a lot of the times. It's hard to sit through that for more than 15 minutes. The people he has working under him are decent, mean well but most of them are low IQ lackeys, people that could never challenge Jones for his crown. I still did sometimes enjoy watching his Youtube highlights though, both the brilliant and the ridiculous ones.

Empire_of_the_mind

Yes, which is why he's not our fucking cult leader you retard. The key concept YOU don't understand is the "opposition" part. He's allowed to run amok and say whatever he wants WITHIN CERTAIN BOUNDS. We all know what his restrictions are, but for the rest he's running wild and hitting a lot of correct notes.

1Iron_Curtain

Okay, fine, we just need a Nazi version of Alex Jones that will pummel the system and reverse engineering that should be easy.

I know Alex Jones is sort of an idiot and sucks, but we need to find the glimmer of light wherever we can find it.

AnusMouth

I used to think Alex Jones was a colossal retard, but now I realize he just caters to colossal retards to earn advertising revenue. Also, he jerks off to tranny porn and fails miserably at denying it. The truth stings, huh moron? How's my shit taste, faggot?

1Iron_Curtain

Sure, that is true and his transsexual pornographic issues shows just how messed up our population is in fact, or at least how bad Alex Jones is at representing his ideals.

The truth does not sting and I think its good enough reason to throw Alex Jones under the bus, but when doing so let's throw all the "moronic idiots" with him is the logic, and I do not accept this at all, because those idiots have their own complex contributions to make and good ideals they hold and its always better to work with what one has to then just throw it out.

Monsantos_Schlong

Alex had too much flouride

VoutGuy

He must have watched Bill's podcast.

doctorconimac

Bil Hicks!

GreatestOfAllTime

I tried to listen to the podcast but Rogans shitty interviewing and musks autism were too much to handle.

draaaak

can't handle autism... hangs out on voat...

Empire_of_the_mind

Don't watch it, goy

TheTrigger

And yet, you're on the internet.