Chemtrails still occurring ( conspiracy )

submitted by dbvapor

Someone posted on here a week ago that they hadn’t seen any chemtrails in a while and nobody else in the thread had either. I’m sad to report that I live in Central California and I’m seeing a ton this week. Keep your eyes on the skies, goats.

14280395?

There was never a real break here in Australia, although they do tend to go harder on warmer days/weeks, so there are significantly less in winter.

If they were just contrails surely there would be more in winter?

TwitterBannedIt

Zip, Zero, Zilch in (my part of) Arizona.

They were still in Phoenix 2-3 months ago, ie: I'm not.

They were still in Utah 6 months ago, ie: I'm not.

Go rural, move inland, trust me.

100% believe they are still doing it in California, not even surprised.

I saw my first chemtrail in San Diego.

ItsBad

So either Trump doesn't have control over US airspace or he's not on our side whatsoever. If you're concerned then you could look into countermeasures. Chemtrails can be destroyed with devices like Orgonite & Chembusters/Cloudbusters, and prayer/willpower/belief can be used to disrupt them.

wrathfulmomes

HAHA. So some bits of metal in a piece of ordinary plastic is doing what to chemicals or metallic particles in the air? Lulz for dayss there

CrustyBeaver52

It's not a conspiracy. It's called geoengineering, and it is now well into at least it's second decade.

The main goal is stated to cool down the planet by blocking a small percentage of the sunlight. That may or may not be the real goal of the program. In my mind, the planet has definitely cooled from the levels seen in the 1990's. For example, I was golfing here in January in the 1990's. Last year we had the coldest winter here since 1859. January averaged -40C every day.

The problem with geoengineering is it warps the actual planet data - you cannot tell if cooling is occurring naturally as part of a normal cycle, or artificially, as part of an effective engineering effort. There is no effective control for comparison. Then there is also the risk of over cooling the planet, and triggering the next ice age by mistake. It is also possible to destabilize the biosphere, triggering unintended die off of various species, and unintended species adaptation and migration.

In other words, the planet has already cooled and we should probably stop now. We can always restart it if the planet heats back up again.

14280435?

Geoengineering is a conspiracy. It's not publicly admitted to. I think geoengineering may be the cover story they are setting up for when they get found out, and it may be more sinister.

Either way, what are they spraying? I wager it's not good for human health.

IIJOSEPHXII

That's what they are telling you. They don't give a fuck about the temperature of the planet, they only care about being richer than everyone else. If they gave a fuck about the temperature of the planet, they wouldn't invest in the airline industry - one of the biggest global warming culprits.

What they are doing is putting noxious particles into the atmosphere to cripple the population and put them into the health care system.

They could be giving this global warming spiel to the pilots who believe they are doing good, but it only takes a few minutes to switch out a canister to a mixture that would be lethal.

EffinWhiteMale

Still going strong, I see them all the time. They're like contrails but last a lot longer and disperse into a hazy cloud.

Reddit-is-kill

Physicist here.

Water vapor exists all around us including in the sky high above us. This water vapor can be "attached" with other water vapor moleculares to form liquid water. The electric polarity of the water allows the molecules to stick together, forming large clumps of liquid water. These clumps are seen to the eye as clouds which are naturally forming and happen slowly over time.

When something causes compression of air in the pressence of water vapor, this reaction happens much more quickly. When planes are flying through the sky, they compress air and when air is sucked into engines and turbines, they compress air.

This compression creates clouds in the wake of the planes.

Sometimes these clouds stay for a while or even grow in size, in the case of very humid conditions where clouds can form naturally. Sometimes they dissapate quickly, which happens if it's not humid enough for natural clouds to form.

Basic chemistry and physics.

But you faggots are all just going to ignore this and down voat me anyways because you're a bunch of paranoid and uneducated cunts.

It's ok I love you guys anyways. Cheers. Have fun playing in your crusade!

14280360?

How much have you looked into chemtrails?

I agree that on cold calm days planes leave contrails that look a bit like chemtrails. But how do you explain the same effect on hot windy days? Contrails and chemtrails appear as different to me as foggy breath and smokey breath. Why do the commercial planes near major airport only ever leave contrails and chemtrails only come from planes that appear higher up and do not follow regular flight paths to/from the major airport?

Reddit-is-kill

I'm not an expert. But it seems likely that the wind higher up would all move uniformly much like solar wind or océano current, likely wouldn't disperse the clouds even if it was moving them

TwitterBannedIt

A physicist should know that things like this dont just happen overnight.

This did not always happen in these regions, and the planes were always there.

Feel free to explain. You know damn well, SOMETHING has changed the equation.

Lived in SoCal for 10 years, traveled the entire globe in the Navy, Never saw a single chemtrail (for sake of argument I will call it a contrail of larger than expected scale and duration), anyway, Never saw one of 'those' until the DAY AFTER FUKUSHIMA, the very next day the sky was full of them. It was very noticeable because I smoke outside and look at the sky a lot. It was a SUDDEN and DRAMATIC change.

Reddit-is-kill

Mr Wizard I like it. I dont deny that planes have been known to use certain things to make patterns that aren't just water. I'm not saying your theory is impossible, only that a late percent of your fears are likely water vapor.

I'm not going to try and disprove anecdotes online from strangers. Well documented data I will work with.

TwitterBannedIt

Delightful, Why not produce some documentation of normal everyday Jets producing canopy covering loads during the 1980s and 90s? Any would be a specific event or activity and not known within the casual norms of most American City Dwellers.

So what has changed?

Either the exhaust has remained exactly the same, and is still just exhaust and water vapor, but the environment it is released into has changed so drastically that it behaves in a fashion that is much more noticeable and long lasting (thereby provoking the theories you seem to loathe).

OR

The environment is exactly the same and something different is coming out of the backs of planes (many choices there, most suspect, as you know, geoengineering).

You have the right to walk away from an argument you started, but I'm sure you know that will invalidate your claim (and you did make one, in very insulting fashion and should have expected rebuttal).

Reddit-is-kill

Lol didn't read after your sarcastic first word. I doubt you will be thoughtful, you seem pretty deep into your theory.

I'll let you guys just have your play time.

TwitterBannedIt

Yea well, you're a condescending prick who knows fuck all.

I'll just let you enjoy your "I'm a physicist" Larping

Reddit-is-kill

You know, saying "There no way you could be so smart that you're a physicist" or any variation is actually a huuuge compliment.

I have all but my dissertation for my phd in nuclear and I'm published 3 times in physics journals. 😂🤣😘 go ahead, tell me I'm lying again. It makes me feel like my accomplishments are truly great since they're so good you can't even believe them.

TwitterBannedIt

Thought you weren't reading my text?

Run along, niggerfaggot.

No one said any of those things but you.

You're still right here with me, asshat.

Reddit-is-kill

Didn't read the long one, enjoyed the short one.

You stopped calling me a larper... what happened? Finally starting to fear you might be talking to someone that understands this topic much more than you ever will?

😘

Thanks for recognizing it!

TwitterBannedIt

Fear? You suck at this. Definitely a Larp, and everyone will recognize that by your manner.

Reddit-is-kill

Easily manipulated. I got you to claim I was lying again. Feels good man. Thanks for reaffirming that us physicists are so well respected and intellectually superior that you can't argue with one and therefor have to say I'm lying.

For my next trick I'll get you to say you don't care about physics education and that It doesn't apply here!

I said I'm a physicist. I didn't say I kept social posture por was mature in internet arguments.

Dummy.

TwitterBannedIt

Oh Noes I got called a dummy by a fucktard.

The failure is all yours. Still a larp, Still a faggot, but you knew that.

Posture some more, maybe I'll get bored.

Reddit-is-kill

So you're saying that If I'm telling the truth about being a physicist then you'd believe what I was saying and denounce your strangely complicated theory to describe a very simple phenomenon?

qwop

You need to read up on your physics, because that's not how clouds form. Cloud physics is an entirely separate branch of complex research, which requires it's own education and understanding. Simply declaring you're a physicist does not automatically qualify you to talk about clouds.

I would otherwise listen to you, because usually physicists are smart, and smart people are always fun to listen to and learn from, but the fact that you assume you know something about a topic you most likely do not know enough about, shows that you are not entirely worthy of your self proclaimed title.

And I mean this in the kindest way possible, because I have a very low tolerance for smart people talking about topics which they have not researched enough about. These kinds of people are a menace to our society, because other people look up to your assumed educated titles and plaques on the walls. YOU have a responsibility to not abuse this perceived position.

But you just did.

This is a simple fact I dig up from Wikipedia, that shows you are not entirely up to speed on this topic:

Water requires a non-gaseous surface to make the transition from a vapour to a liquid; this process is called condensation. In the atmosphere, this surface presents itself as tiny solid or liquid particles called CCNs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_condensation_nuclei

Now please do not come here and accuse people of wearing tin foil hats, when you clearly do not actually know the full scope of the topic at hand.

IIJOSEPHXII

I would be inclined to believe you if the media weren't normalizing them

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/39398682

What I don't believe is that "scientists" could discover 12 new types of cloud after humans had been observing the sky for millennia. Giving them names like "homogenitus" (man made) just gives the game away.

wrathfulmomes

New cloud types "discovered"?
(1) new types formed because we didn't have jumbojets before
(2) "new" things are reclassified old things all the time. The spike in autism/aspergers DX, for example, was largely due to the definitions and diagnosis rather than an epidemic.

Too many non-scientists here wanting to belive in orgonite or whatever the fuck.

Reddit-is-kill

This makes perfect sense to me. Seems self evident. Clouds formed by rapid compression in varying processes and climates are going to be vastly different from naturally forming clouds.

I would not even mind believing this conspiracy, in fact I would jump on board 100% of there was not an easy and simple way to explain the phenominon that cannot be ignored.

Clouds of water vapor are absolutely created by planes.

With that simple fact, it becomes much harder to believe the conspiracy.

Much like understanding lightning makes it harder to believe there is a Zeus.

I do apologize for the religion analogy. Clearly, a government conspiracy is easier to believe than mysticism. For instance, the kikes did 911. I'm about 99% positive of that one looking at our country's wars since then, I just wanted to make a point about lack of knowledge leading to unsubstantiated and unlikely claims.

Clouds of water vapor are created by planes.

Anyone that wanted to believe this conspiracy first needs to accept this fact.

Reddit-is-kill

Basic physics facts understood by every educated scientist vs paranoid claims... hm.. I wonder which one we should look at?

I like facts. Which is why i support kavanaugh. You support claims with no strong evidence. You must like Ford.

JUST SAYING.

MantisChirp

Your life is shit because you are a shill on voat. Good luck to you.

Reddit-is-kill

My life is shit? I dont know... I think I'm enjoying my life pretty completely.

You seem upset in the face of facts. Here, let me direct you to where you belong.

www.reddit.com

There you go, or even better.

www.youreahugefaggotandyousuckalotofdicksallday.com

asabove

Just started back up this week here too.

muh_dik

Yes you are correct. Here in Vegas we had the clearest skies for what seemed like a week and a half. Trump came to visit, then left on the 20th if I recall correctly. Then they went back on schedule and sprayed the fuck out of the sky since then. Even if they miss a day you can definitely tell by the remnants in the atmosphere just lingering.

SealofApproval

This year we have had a far better desplay than other years.

feelme

ohio here. all of our clouds are from planes