Ceegen

I'm a KJV-Only bible-believing fundamentalist who believes the entire universe and all that is in it was created in 6 literal 24-hour time periods. I have an associates in applied sciences, can do a little bit of programming (learning as I go), and have read the bible all the way through upwards of 6 times. I've watched numerous videos on flat earth theory "proofs" and cringed every time.

"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing." - Job ch26 v7 - Why would the earth need "foundations" if it hangs on nothing? Perhaps the "foundations" of the earth are the fundamentals laws of physics which keeps it hanging on nothing? And what are the "four corners" of the earth, except that they are the four fundamental (cardinal) directions? North, east, south and west?

If you're only looking with your eyes, you'll be deceived. Every time.

IT IS A GLOBE. Get over it.

New_goat

http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm to be a fundamentalist you need to know your fundaments

Ceegen

So you define your fundamentalism by that webpage? Because I don't. Paul said to be a wise masterbuilder, proverbs says to lean upon the Lord for understanding. Flat earth-ism, is just that... An ism.

Maybe some day when flat-earthers can provide comprehensive proof of their claims, then I'd be willing to change my mind, but I've seen too much of the world to know that it isn't flat.

a100167

Hahaha holy shit what a huge faggot!

New_goat

feels bad. 3.3 years on voat still blue pilled.

a100167

You and your fellow fuckin' kikes are failing hard

Pluviou5

Can this be reconciled with the hollow earth theory?

ardvarcus

The flat Earth conspiracy on the Internet is interesting on several fronts. Did it arise spontaneously, as a collective joke to see how many morons could be conned into taking it seriously? Or was it deliberately implemented as a way of testing the credulity and gullibility of modern Internet users?

Did research psychologists and statisticians get together in a think tank in Washington DC and devise an absurd scenario just to test whether it could be sold to a large number of people merely through repetition and reinforcement? Are they keeping tabs on what percentage of people take it seriously? Or was it just like a 4-chan meme, similar to the recent "14 little words" meme, that got out of control and went viral? Are the people keeping it alive only doing it because they think it is funny, or do they have a more sinister purpose?

turtlew0rk

Its to discredit actual real conspiracies. Instead of having to address the inconsistencies of any actual conspiracy TPTB can just point to the flat earthers. Conversation over.

New_goat

i do not discredit other conspiracies! http://whale.to/b/israel_connection.html http://whale.to/b/israel.html

its all on www.whale.to give it a try

turtlew0rk

I never accused you of being the brains behind the operation

Gizurr

Makes sense, all the other planets are spheres, but we live on a giant flat disk.

New_goat

if you only see white goats your whole lifetime does that mean there are no black goats?

Gizurr

Diversity is a tool of the Jews. Let blacks live with blacks and whites live with whites. You can be friends without living next to each other.

shawnfromnh69

I'll believe in the flat earth when they show me undeniable proof as in video of them arriving at the edge and then showing space looking straight down. I've never seen that and I'm positive I never will. The reasons they give for a flat earth are basically dumb and their experiments are ill conceived at best with absolutely questionable results at best.

shawnfromnh69

That proves they use narrow focal lenses and their rockets spin quickly so what did this prove because it proves to me they are not amateurs. ALso what about GPS satellites and stuff like that how are they done? You are only showing amateurs shooting a rocket up probably a couple dozen miles and it ran out of fuel. They should have bought an old real rocket and tried the same experiment.

TwitterBannedIt

This is a fun argument because no one ever claimed that an 'edge' existed.

The most prominent theories are an endless plane.

I'm not an FEer either, I identify most with the gentlemen above who believes neither.

What responsibility have I to believe things I cannot know?

Know being the key word, believing popular hearsay is not knowledge, it is a belief system. I can't test these things myself, but would be happy to try, should I gain the opportunity. I would be happy with any outcome, if I could prove it.

Another theory would say you can see the edge, because Antarctica is around us on all side, and this could indeed be tested, but not with a compass, assuming the north pole is in the center of the world we know (which this theory does assume). Still you could disprove it by flying OVER Antarctica completely, and you would be heading south when you started, but once on the other side, you should be facing NORTH, that would prove the globe is how it is taught. I would be interested in proving either, but if you aren't mounting a scientific expedition to do so, not terribly interested in hearing the 'facts' you've LEARNED from HEARSAY.

SerialLarper

You can test the flat earth theory by phoning people in other timezones to track the path of the sun from sunset to sunrise in your local timezone. According to flat earth theory it has to change direction in order that it doesn't go below the horizon, but it doesn't.

New_goat

prove me earth is round and i believe you,

its dumb because my mum told me, my dad told me, my goverment told me buh buh buh

Obrez

It's retarded because you can go to the ocean and there is a horizon you retard, if earth were flat the horizon would be much further out and would change drastically with only a little elevation change.

you can test curvature of the earth for under $100 by attaching a go-pro to a weather balloon.

Make calls around the world and track the sun going around the planet.

Explain why the earth is the only Disk, why aren't the moon, mars and all of the other planets we can see using simple optical telescopes, spherical, with spherical orbits? Why is earth the only Disk?

There are two types of flat earthers, legitimately mentally ill retards and people pretending to be mentally ill retards , the first are retards the second don't want us talking about other things like kikes, 9/11, fake political movements, and framing world governments for bullshit as a part of an optics campaign to manufacture consent.

Bigfoot, Aliens, and Chupacabra hunters have more credibility than flat earthers, they actually do investigative work and hunt for proof, you faggots however have zero proof and wont pony up any money to try and find proof because you are fakes or too retarded to comprehend the nature and concept of proof.

Cryptid and alien hunters still get used as distractions too though nut you flat earth faggots take the cake, time cubers are second.

Tallest_Skil

Go away, flatty.

Tallest_Skil

Kill yourself.

New_goat

dont be upset just because your life is a lie. have a cookie “It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

ItsBad

Because flat earth sounds like a Psyop. Regardless of whether it is true or not, it sounds like something to discredit "real conspiracies". Of course NASA is lying about everything yes. I think the earth is probably hollow. Maybe it's flat. Maybe it has no shape because the material world is just a projection of our minds. I don't think there's a way to truly verify any of this. I have the suspicion that flat earth is being spread deliberately, even if it is true, to discredit conspiracy theories.

Another reason why people don't go into this territory is it means acknowledging that mainstream science is a bunch of lies - models deliberately constructed to be wrong to dumb us down. People are more easily convinced that the politicians, military, and the alphabet soup agencies are lying. But science is sacred in our society, attack that and you're attacking our society itself. Or acknowledge that it's a lie and you acknowledge our society is itself a lie.

Christianity is a JEWISH PSYOP. Christianity came from the desert and it brings desert wherever it goes. Desert in culture, desert in mind, desert in spirit, and even desert in nature. The Eucharist is a Satanic Cannibalistic Ritual. The cross is the shape you get when you unfold a cube. The cube like the Star of David or the hexagon is Saturn worship. Christians/Jews burned untold numbers of books containing our culture and knowledge. History is probably entirely fabricated because they burned so many books they could get away with it. (New Chronology)

Do not put your trust in any self proclaimed almighty being. The bible itself admits that Satan is the god of this world. Humans are far more powerful than we're led to believe. That is why they are suppressing and poisoning us endlessly, but do not have the guts to outright declare war on us and fight us.

New_goat

i am muslim koran speaks the truth https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Flat_Earth_and_the_Quran

As devout Muslims, they have good reason to conclude the Earth is flat; the Qur'anic verses 15:19, 20:53, 43:10, 50:7, 51:48, 71:19, 78:6, 79:30, 88:20 and 91:6 all clearly state this and not a single verse in the Qur'an hint to a spherical earth.

SerialLarper

The Quran doesn't say that the earth is flat, is says that it was stretched out.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=tiCMFzpMnZM

New_goat

and everything you stretch out becomes spherical? how do you bake cookies? stretch out the dough into a sphere? everything you streched out becomes flat.

SerialLarper

Does a balloon get stretched out when it is inflated?

slumbermachine

Both are wrong, the society of jesus, whom became the jesuits and partly the illuminati created islam and the perverse view of christianity as a hegalian dialectic. Islam was created by augustine around 600ad as they needed to stop the spread of true christianity and make an opposition. Catholocism was another ploy. Learn about jesuit history and find truth.

New_goat

its not about enough evidence its about you fucking retard not accepting the truth http://whale.to/a/earth_curvature.html

SerialLarper

Cherry picking your evidence shows prejudice. The Bedford Level experiment and others like it result from the curvature of spacetime, like a gravitational lens .

The moon doesn't appear to get smaller on the horizon like FE theory would predict.

New_goat

and the horizon is always on eye level but on a spherical earth it must go down the higher you go up. think about it

SerialLarper

Same for a flat earth, unless the flat earth is infinitely big or appears to be infinitely big due to the curvature of spacetime.

New_goat

DONT CHEW THE REDPILL YOU RETARD SWALLOW IT

New_goat

last hint you retard is this patent, which includes flat earth fuck you https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/3c/31/00/ac1dc59720cb26/US3858334.pdf

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