flyingcuttlefish

BREAKING — French President Macron suspends all political visits to Saudi Arabia in coordination with Germany, UK and Netherlands until #Khashoggi’s disappearance clarified

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1053035059366780929

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carmencita

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/saudi-arabia-weighs-blaming-intelligence-official-for-khashoggi-killing/ar-BBOzrXd?ocid=U346DHP

Four of the suspects Turkey has blamed for Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance belong to the security team that travels with Prince Mohammed. One of them, Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb, has been photographed or spotted near him during recent visits to at least five cities — Paris, Madrid, Houston, Boston and the New York headquarters of the United Nations.

On Thursday, a pro-government Turkish newspaper published leaked, time-stamped photographs of Mr. Mutreb entering the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul just hours before Mr. Khashoggi entered. The photograph is one of the most striking pieces of evidence linking Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance to the crown prince.

Other photos published in the newspaper Sabah showed Mr. Mutreb outside the Saudi consul general’s home, leaving a Turkish hotel with a large suitcase, and leaving the country from Istanbul’s international airport — all later the same day.

I am sorry I just can't see that Assiri is responsible for this, unless they also implicate Mutreb as well. They are letting Mutreb off in order to not divulge what is really going on here. I really believe there is so much to this story and involving some really Big Players. @flyingcuttlefish

flyingcuttlefish

by the time I can even type that last reply I see the story has changed and Trump is poised to make some big statement on it any minute. . . . wait-n-see ....

carmencita

You are correct. Something new every few minutes. Coming from all over.

flyingcuttlefish

aggg ... and another thing changing every minute is Mexico border thing.

I just want to watch baseball ... but 'news' popping up - it's like watching a traffic accident in slow motion ....

carmencita

I know. I want to just watch an old favorite movie or musical or something happy but I keep getting pulled in. This case especially is a magnate. Khashoggi's uncle sold his huge yacht to Trump.

flyingcuttlefish

Glenn Greenwald - The Washington Post, as It Shames Others, Continues to Pay and Publish Undisclosed Saudi Lobbyists and Other Regime Propagandists

https://theintercept.com/2018/10/15/the-washington-post-as-it-shames-others-continues-to-pay-and-publish-undisclosed-saudi-lobbyists-and-other-regime-propagandists/

carmencita

Gore is really dirty. I thought Clinton was the guilty one. But Gore is dirty too. They are all making money at our expense.

Carter Eskew is a former top-level adviser to Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign and a Founder and Managing Director of Glover Park Group which, according to the Post’s own reporting, is one of the Saudi regime’s largest lobbyists. Glover Park, says the Post, has “remained silent amid growing public outrage over reports that Khashoggi was killed inside the Saudi Consulate.” Indeed, as the New York Times reported this week, Eskew’s firm, “which was started by former Clinton administration officials,” is the second-most active lobbying firm for the Saudi regime, “being paid $150,000 a month.”

This stuff has to stop. Connections to the Saudis must be severed. Companies must stop doing business with them and hiding it.

flyingcuttlefish

very good information :)

carmencita

Yeah, well the Podesta Group lobbied through a Saudi Donor to CGI so it involves them as well. the Donor is connected to the Prince I believe. This all is tied together I believe. They are all dirty and make money any way they can, taking money from a country that beheads and also uses our trafficked boys for camel riders. I think I am going to be sick now.

flyingcuttlefish

like cockroaches - they hate sunlight ... so merely discussing them terrifies them.

comment away!

carmencita

I wish I could figure out how to get this on the PG page. The Clinton and Podesta involvement should do it. What do you think? Will it pass muster?

flyingcuttlefish

no - it might get hammered by mods there.

Put it here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagateuncensored

... if you give it a good headline it may go on voat front page too.

If you think it's far on the periphery of PG topic put it here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate2

I put all sorts of stuff I come across about the occult, but with no PG link in pizzagate2 as a link could be made later etc. and it can at least be stored there. Plus with key words in searches people can find the posts if they need them. Very useful for lesser PG side topics.

carmencita

Thank you for your advice. I hope I have the energy to post it. Reading some horrid stuff again this morning. I hope to work on it.

flyingcuttlefish

I sent what you said about Podesta group to Leuren Moret .... she gives news to important people, Veterans Today, etc.

Important info ....

carmencita

Oh Thank You! I hope it gets traction. If nothing else, it may educate a few people.

flyingcuttlefish

so many watching ... this has high interest on many fronts and may change the make up of the royal-in-charge of evil S.A.

carmencita

I am hoping. I actually was quite shocked when I found it, although with their reputation and never missing a chance to make money, it should be no surprise. I have to read my own report over again for as usual anything involving Podesta and Hillary is always quite involved and confusing. The Rat Line model again.

flyingcuttlefish

I have some good search tags featuring Podesta on my CF blog ... https://cfgate.wordpress.com/

flyingcuttlefish

I think a lot more will unfold .... I am sort of not paying attention today as new info coming out will probably re-write the whole story. There seems to be differing views within top assistants to Trump so I don't know which ones will win that fight either.

carmencita

Most definitely we can expect differing views since some are not true and will bare false witness. I agree. I am waiting now too. More stories all over.

Pollycracker

Isn't that what the NWO do to captured combatants, harvest organs while these folks are alive. Was this business as usual for the NWO? Because we disagree, does that now make me a combatant?

Frankenblock

A Washington post writer with Muslim brotherhood ties was tortured to death?

Darn it

fogdryer

There is slot of support for him on fb Just sayin...

Frankenblock

And John Brennan would like a small nuclear war, so....

flyingcuttlefish

Large media groups all reporting this ... NY Times and WSJ did in depth pieces.

RELATED - to Conspiracy angle - the feud at the House of Saud over who inherits the kingdom is connected to the Las Vegas shooting. Many say the shooting was a cover for attempt to kill Saudi royal who was there.

It is recapped at the start of this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSeu1wfacqU

fogdryer

Heard so many scenrios (?) on that incident

DakotaJane

How soon can we get the CNN crew over there?

squishysquid

and the kingdom steadfastly denies any involvement in Khashoggi's suspected murder.

in there fucking consulate? Know what subtract anything to do with the dismembering and this'd be worth a couple of there family members killed just for the brazenness of the lie.

fogdryer

Oh please England makes me sick. Dirty sick greedy Monarch !

MatterzStrange

Saudi Consul fired and placed under investigation after he is 'recorded saying 'Do this outside; you're going to get me in trouble' during torture of journalist' https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/sevenminute-audio-captures-screams-of-dismembered-dissident-journalist-jamal-khashoggi-a3964306.html if I remember lurking on voat a while back there may have been some conspiracy type posts involving saudis, turks, iran, usa refugees, war zones etc removed on voat the past year? @EricKaliberhall @heuristic @Crensch I also notice in regard to politics and sales the country of Sweden is a big arms exporter to the Middle East companies like Volvo, SAAB etc

Crensch

I don't know who you are. I don't care about what you're writing about. I have no idea why you're pinging me. You write like a shill.

MatterzStrange

posts on this topic were not removed from voat?

Crensch

Is that what an answer looks like where you come from?

Vladimir_Komarov

"Journalist"

Mr_Quagmire

What exactly did this guy do to get such attention from the Saudis?

fogdryer

Exactly

carmencita

Possibly what they knew he found out. Whatever he was going to do, they stopped him from doing it. Whoever that was behind it. I am not ready to name the Prince as of yet. Possibly the Old Guard and London.

fogdryer

Logical

carmencita

London is so guilty. The poisoning and the truth that came out about it, well, they certainly are a possibility in this mess.

14515071?

He was Muslim Brotherhood. Wanted to bring down the Saudis.

fogdryer

This is what I read

BlockMe

Adnan Khashoggi. Look him up. This guy's uncle.

Pollycracker

New World Order

carmencita

Thanks for that Heads Up. Article

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/adnan-khashoggi-dead-saudi-arms-dealer-playboy-pleasure-wives-billionaire-lifestyle-wealth-profit-a7778031.html

How crass it would be to mention that the weapons he helped sell perfected the art of blowing people apart.

And Adnan Khashoggi helped sell enough of these weapons to become one of the world’s wealthiest men: a fortune once estimated at £2.4 billion, friendships with Saudi and Hollywood royalties, homes all over the world, a superyacht later sold to Donald Trump, a personal bodyguard nicknamed Mr Kill.

He started young, helped by the contacts that come from having a father who was the court doctor to King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia.

Aged 21, about a year after enrolling at Chico State College, California, he earned a commission of $150,000 dollars for assisting in a deal to sell $3 million of trucks to Egypt.

Instead, as the Saudi royal family began to plough its oil wealth into weaponry in the 1960s and 1970s, Khashoggi became the perfect “Mr Fixit”, linking his old friends in Saudi Arabia with his new friends, the American and British arms manufacturers.

“He went through yachts the way you or I go through cars,” said his biographer Ronald Kessler.

By 1980, he could afford Nabila, named after his daughter, 281ft (86.6 metres) long, the largest private yacht in the world at the time, on which it is said Khashoggi “lavished money with utter abandon”: sundeck with bullet-proof glass, solid gold sink in the master suite.

They didn’t just use any old onyx in the bathrooms of the chamois leather-lined cabins. It was hand carved onyx, sculpted by “the finest craftsman from the hills of Italy,” as described by the next owner, Donald Trump, who in 1987 bought her for nearly $30m.

His ability to charm was legendary. Khashoggi became friends with Richard Nixon in the 1960s, helping fund both his US Presidential election campaigns, at one point reportedly presenting Tricky Dicky’s daughter with a $60,000 dollar bracelet.

On board the yacht Nabila, visitors included at least one US ambassador. But the most frequent guests were as New York magazine put it, “Arab princes, Third World officials, and shadowy European and American businessmen.

“Ensconced in its suites, they used the 150 telephones and the satellite communication system to arrange arms sales and commodities trades.”

NOW It Gets Really SLEAZY

On occasion Khashoggi would go from cabin to cabin, keeping as many as 16 different deals going at the same time.

“He would give them anything they wanted: girls, food, cash,” said Mr Kessler. “He had quite a variety of occasions on the boat. Some were very formal, some were orgies”.

One of the “girls” used in this way, Pamella Bordes, later spoke of being “part of an enormous group … used as sexual bait.”

In 1989 Vanity Fair magazine bluntly described Khashoggi as “one of the greatest whoremongers in the world.” Very few of his business associates ever complained.

And when the time came to sign the contract, the yacht could slip into international waters, where sovereign restrictions on their business deals did not apply.

I could go on and on. Please Read. It also mentions the Iran deal Reagan and Oliver North and the son of Margaret Thatcher. I just KNOW the British are involved in this.

Trump has to know more than we have been told. This is getting really sick. If this just gets swept under the rug, Shame.

I have also mentioned that this in some crazy way links to the Clintons, CGI and the Podesta Group through a Saudi donator.

Something strange in the news Hillary involved in an accident

https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2018/10/hillary_clinton_unharmed_in_minor_crash_inside_jer.html

Hillary Clinton unharmed in minor crash inside Jersey City parking garage

This is getting so mixed up and confusing my head is spinning. @flyingcuttlefish @MatterzStrange

BlockMe

Those yachts had video cameras.

carmencita

I believe it. That is the whole purpose for getting them on board. The same operation that Epstein is doing as well on his island. And guess what? These sicko perverts are so intense on carrying out their urges they don't care. They can't help themselves since they are pedos. Disgusting is too good of a word. Seems there is another big reason for owning a HUGE yacht other than cruising the sea for plain old enjoyment.

BlockMe

You didn't notice that the newly dead Khashoggi's cousin was Dodi Fayed - the guy who was banging Princess Diana and was with her in the car crash?

This is way bigger than Western media is playing it out to be. The whole "we're going after the Saudis" act is just that, an act meant to distract.

carmencita

Just saw your message. Yes, Dodi. It is all so involved and with a cast of thousands it seems. As usual they are trying to bluff us again. You are so right, a mere distraction. There is so much more. Podesta and Hillary and possibly London are involved. Possibly even Trump. He bought the yacht of Khasoggi's uncle years ago. This is ugly.

BlockMe

While I don't believe there's a SCEPTRE style organisation behind all these events, I do believe that the super-rich/politicians collude, across the world. They call it "making deals."

I also believe that these people are incredibly devoid of morals.

Blackmail is a mere negotiating tactic.

carmencita

I never thought of Blackmail being that big only on TV. What I know now is that it has turned into a business. A dirty business that can include sex and even children. Sick and sad. Yep devoid of morals. I saw on my news that Trump is going to slap some punishment on the Saudis but he said a lot of jobs are at stake. The Saudis are claiming there was a fight. Sure.

fogdryer

The legal implications are brilliant but you know what , you are going to get yourself killed sooner rather than later ??

carmencita

When you are a journalist nowadays and want to print the truth, that is what you must know. It is expected and comes with the territory, still a shame.

flyingcuttlefish

that's spot on!

carmencita

PS. I think the London Angle is really big. Putin put it out there for us to figure out. Hint Hint.

carmencita

This whole business Smells like a Big Stinky Rat. Wonder if they want her out of the way, it may be the Donator was involved with the Prince, etc. It is always tied together just like the Rat Lines. Another thought, this guy could have been the fore runner to Epstein. If not, who took his place. Was Khashoggi going to Spill the Beans and expose all of THEIR Dirty Laundry? Was the car accident involving Hillary a warning? So many questions not enough answers.

fogdryer

I didn’t hear of the accident. They could kill her at any time if they wanted. He knew he’d be killed for spilling the laundry.... idk Something to investigate further

carmencita

Just speculation on my part, mostly because of the timing. What an odd happening since one of the 15 Saudis met his death the same way.

MatterzStrange

I dont know there are a shit ton of rumors on blogs, message forums, twitter and across the interwebs

There are people who hope the media forgets and all will quietly go away like other things no longer in the news ...

some posters on voat have been following the story @Piscina @carmencita @Conspirologist @flyingcuttlefish

A lot of companies banks, car makers, big billionaire names like Richard Branson are pulling their money away from Saudi

A lot of theories as to who killed him but killing him in such a public way, with international cameras looking would send a 'message'

He wrote for the Washington Post and the Guardian News Paper England and was also a political commentator for Saudi Arabian and international channels, including MBC, BBC, Al Jazeera, and Dubai TV

flyingcuttlefish

lots of coverage of this grizzly murder/torture. However, not in the news are thousands of people the US picked up, sent to foreign locations for torture, uncluding boiling alive in Uzbekistan and places like that and the ones still alive are STILL incarcerated, with no trial, no visitors (not even Red Cross), and no lawyers. Seymour Hirsch wrote a long piece on it some years back and the program continues and the NY Times and WSJ and everyone writing about this awful case all know it.

The US is on poor footing to complain because of it (my opinion).

It will make Trump look bad though if he does nothing. The victim worked for Murdock media empire which has some sway I imagine.

carmencita

And yet the arms deal went through? Was it quickly rushed before they planned to kill him? Because they did kill him. All evidence points to it. I agree that his punishment was extremely heinous. But we must remember this country thinks of beheadings as a norm or slap on the wrist. If they are guilty of his murder We must sever All Ties with SA. We must also get to the bottom of why. This involves CGI & The Podesta Group. Trump must not drop the ball.

fogdryer

That will never happen, severing ties with SA.

carmencita

I don't see it either. Too much money to be made. It's what I would want, but you speak the truth.

Conspirologist

What pisses me off, is that nobody gives a fuck that somebody was murdered by fucking savages. Everybody is just pushing their own agenda. We know what happened only because the US have pissed off the Turkish government.

crazy_eyes

Fucking savages murder people daily

GreenGlass

Administration in serious Damage Control.

MatterzStrange

news again @BlockMe @carmencita 'Pompeo after meeting with Saudis' about missing journalist: "They didn’t want to" talk about any of the facts https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/411848-pompeo-saudi-arabia-didnt-want-to-discuss-any-of-the-facts-in more info @Conspirologist @DakotaJane anyone put together a timeline of how the story keeps changing

Conspirologist

It's better to wait to see how the story ends and look for lies afterwards.