The Earth Isn't Round. Change My Mind. ( conspiracy )

submitted by dbvapor

Hi goats! I’ve recently been convinced after watching several great videos on the subject, that the Earth is not a ball. I’ve looked for actual photos of the entire sphere Earth and all of them are composites or photoshopped. All views from space with lens correction show no curve. Engineers don’t take the curve into account when building long bridges. Thrust and combustion have been proven to not work in a vacuum. The biggest bombshell to me was learning that the sun worshipers pushed the heliocentric model because they wanted the sun to be the center of our known creation and not the Earth. Why do sun rays shine down directly as if the sun is much closer to the Earth? How is it possible that mountains visible with infrared cameras beyond 150 miles away? Why did Obama mock Flat Earthers so many times? Why did he say we couldn’t go beyond low Earth orbit? Who here actually believes a single god damn thing NASA says or shows us? If we’re really on a spinning rock flying thru space then change my mind because I don’t buy it.

fastregister

i cant change your mind, one day there was an island visible from the US-east coast, an island which is usually covered by the earths curvature. i dont rememebr the exact details, but it was over the news, they explained it by atmospheric phenomena, that the air will refract the light for a day, and make the island visible from overseas. implying that on a normal day the air shows no such light refractions, which it obviously does... i cant find any sources, it seems they are scrubbed off the search results. there are also some zoom recordings around where you can clearly see that ships in the distance disappear above the sea level, due to the sea creating a mirage on top of the water at exceeding distance, and the ship drives right into the mirage until it is fully engulfed and becomes invisible to the camera, the sea level on the horizon is actually lower down than it appears to be, what you perceive as the horizon, is the water and its mirage type reflection above it.

the_one_you_see_last

You are right. The Earth isnt round. Its geoid. A geoid form is in truth really not perfectly round.

elitch2

https://s2.qwant.com/thumbr/200x200/e/7/73e758d94df16449dc72067f607f8c86efa98f291c790e8c38be78a5a2d50a/15-199-americas.png?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nasa.gov%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fthumbnails%2Fimage%2F15-199-americas.png&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0&b_id=OIP.0YuaZvHti9aZIA_afle8WQHaHa

nasa official "photo of the Earth". Now, that image is perfectly spherical. Perfect, put the image up in Gimp, and make a circle over it. Perfectly spherical.

So, what's your answer to that?

the_one_you_see_last

That you are showing symptoms of a maniac. You think because they dont want you to know about the alien probes and human spaceships flying around and show only photoshopped shit that the Earth is flat, when you can use first grade mathematics to prove yourself. Or you know, you are a glowing cianigger. You choose.

elitch2

Eratosthenes' experiment would give the exact same result with a Sun that is ~3k miles away.

So, that's not a proof. To interpret the results in the way it has been, makes an assumption of a globe Earth to start with.

the_one_you_see_last

NASA is a fucking idiot there is no misunderstanding between us mate. I just tell you to not glow like a cianigger, because whatever they hiding, its not something so stupid like flat earth.If you want to have evidence without external evidence to convince you that they are hiding something amazing, and not something stupid like flat earth is a seismologic map of the geoid planet because you can follow the movement of the plates. The question is not about NASA being full if shit. Its about you please not be so stupid and believe things like flat earth. Just think about it. How can you move the plates if they are on a flat structure?You can follow individual earthquakes transfer energy from individual earthquakes moving around the planet in the plates.Earth is guaranteed not flat.They are hiding either aliens or the fact they cant even send a camera to make a picture that survives the true enviroment of space, or something they do or cant do.

elitch2

Think about that a little harder, man.

Lying about the very shape and nature of reality makes every other deception that much easier. These occultists believe they practice magic, summon demons, gain power from killing children, etc.

Look how easily people swallow even the boldest of lies. 9/11, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbour, Iraq (and every other war in the ME), are all easily seen as lies. Why does everyone go along with it? What's the difference between our ancestors, and people of today?

There was serious debate surrounding helio/geo-centrism right up to the "Moon landing".

I don't "advocate flat Earth", I'm am genuinely unsure. I think "infinite plane" is most likely, if the heliocentric model is false.

Have you seen these maps? https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PrBIy36EUfE/WDQ8GvdhYAI/AAAAAAAAQxQ/cdJM_YayVBkyEklv4uhJtB2C7PgSedr-ACLcB/s640/1%252C000%2BYears%2BOld%2BMap%2Bshows%2Bsecret%2Bland%2Bmass%2Bbeyond%2Bthe%2BAntarctic%2BEdge.jpg

the_one_you_see_last

Okay, you are now classified as a glowing cianigger because you are devoid of reason. Please enjoy your life.

elitch2

Yep. Because expecting science to follow it's own rules is just asking too much.

I'm devoid of reason? I have nothing but reason, logic, and science.

That's the point of the endeavor, man. To find the truth.

I can tell you with near 100% certainty that the apollo missions and the iss are complete bullshit.

If I'm so fucking stupid, please provide your proof of the heliocentric model.

Don't see how I'm a cia nigger, now.

elitch2

I'm agnostic. The Earth is certainly not the way nigger smokes grass tyson explains it.

nasa is 100% horseshit, and the Moon landing were faked.

I'd love for space to be real, I would.

So please, someone provide an practical experiment that proves the heliocentric model.

Because most of the observable evidence can be explained by the geocentric model.

matthew--

Of course the moon landing was faked. They wouldn't let that shit out so that US enemies (Russia during the cold war, etc) could get any useful information.

That said, while the videos were fake. I don't think the actual landing was. Consider that nowadays we have thousands of satellites orbiting the Earth in space, and they've been up there for quite a while, we definitely have the technology to do so. Add to that, that if any one country actually secures "the moon" and is able to hold it and develop military bases etc. they could have a huge military advantage. With satellites nowadays, every single square meter of the earth is viewable. You couldn't hide something like a nuclear program if you tried.

They definitely sent a manned craft of some sort to the moon, and it's not that much of a stretch to say that someone got out and walked around for a bit.

elitch2

Everything you just stated, you're taking on faith.

You've never seen a satellite.

Also, if they went to the moon in the 60's, why is it an issue now? https://invidio.us/search?q=nasa+can%27t+go+to+mmon

matthew--

>Everything you just stated, you're taking on faith.

Actually I have a degree in Aerospace Engineering, so that basically makes me a rocket scientist \s

But here's a question for you. If satellites don't exist. How do you explain how GPS works? I mean, you COULD have them flying around in planes all day and night, but that'd be pretty expensive as opposed to having them in orbit.

As for why it's an issue now... it all comes down to funding. There is no military case for - nor money to be made from - landing on the moon any more. Back then, they had to do it because cold war and if the Russians somehow built a weapon on the moon, they needed to make sure they could deal with it. Nowadays, unless China decides to pull a "South China Sea" on The Moon, there just isn't a need to do it again.

elitch2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN We've had this tech since the 40's.

Why does gps stop working in remote locations? Why have you never seen a satellite dish point anywhere other than the horizon? Doesn't matter where I go, coast to coast, the dishes are never pointed up.

Now, if you are telling me you're intelligent enough to have an advanced stem degree, but you also believe nasa put humans on the moon, I'm going to have a difficult time reconciling those things.

There's no need to go to the Moon? Didn't I read a paper that stated the Moon is covered in H3? If so, you could become very wealthy mining the Moon.

The Moon landings were faked, and the iss is complete bullshit.

matthew--

LORAN

Yeah, nah mate. Modern GPS systems do not use LORAN. It's much more expensive; no where near as accurate, especially over large distances; and you can prove it yourself: buy a GPS, and configure it to use LORAN. It won't work that way.

Doesn't matter where I go, coast to coast (US?), the dishes are never pointed up.

Of course not, they're all pointed some-what south towards the equator (in America), right? That's because of geosynchronous orbit. They need to point to a satellite (in space) that is located above the equator. If you go to countries on the equator, they'll point slightly east or west, but not north or south; and if you got to countries south of the equator (like Australia) they'll point north.

you could become very wealthy mining the Moon.

That's not how it works. It could be covered in diamond and unobtainium, but but unless you could could bring it back to Earth and sell it for more than it costs to get, you're not going to make any money. It costs around 50k USD / kg to send something into space. Estimate double that for a return journey at minimum, 100k / kg. And now you also need to send the equipment to actually do the "mining" as well, and some way to store the H3 that is robust enough to make it back to earth.

The moon landing was most likely real, the video they showed the world is probably faked, the ISS is real.

elitch2

You think geostationary means it's over the equator? https://in-the-sky.org/satmap_worldmap.php# this says differently.

Diagram that. You'd have to point through the Earth, eh?

So, it's impossible that gps is just better LORAN? Why? You ever try to use gps deep in the ROcky Mouontains (Canadian ones, not those pussy hills America has)? It doesn't work, son.

Ever use a sat phone? How the fuck is that antenna doing anything to help talk to fucking space? Looks like a powered LTE antenna in the Garmin I dissected.

If the ISS is real, why do they fake everything they broadcast? Here https://hooktube.com/results?search_query=iss+green+screen+harness or in swimming pools https://hooktube.com/results?search_query=iss+swimming+pool

dbvapor

Exactly. Nobody can prove it because it’s not round. We’ve been shown a cartoon globe for decades.

tokui

It's fucking hollow.

HenryCabotLodge

You have issues. Get Help - Mental Illness.

elitch2

Another fine product of public skool.

If it's so simple, prove it.

SynapticRevolt

Have you never been outside? Up in an airplane? Wtf??

elitch2

I guarantee I've flown more, and seen more of the world, than you have.

Prove it, with science.

You can't prove anything with incredulous indignation.

1moar

Maybe not as round as you are. But otay.

dbvapor

Nice try. I came to Voat with the Fat People Hate exodus. Fat people suck and so does NASA.

VOALTRON

Everyone knows the earth isn't round. It's an oblate spheroid. Duh.

elitch2

Yeah, but it's fatter below the south pole, more pear shaped, right?

So why does nasa keep showing us a perfectly spherical planet? Go look at the photos. Measure them. They are certainly not oblate, never mind pear shaped.