voats4goats

I remember Surrogates with Bruce Willis being a decent movie. IDK about accurate but a good watch none the less

The_Duke_of_Dabs

Was gonna say the same thing. I think now that movie might be on par with Idiocracy as far as being a prophetic movie.

Metanoiac

The Island is a great movie on this topic. Brave New World as well. That one is scarily realistic, at least the book. The movie is a bit dated and could stand for a remake.Blade Runner is centered on the elimination of a few rogue clones who just want to get to live longer. Moon is also an insanely realistic scenario involving clones. Supposed to be a sequal some day I think. And those are just off the top of my head. Even the Star Wars involvement with clones is a scenario I already worry about in our world as a possible use for them.

Wahaha

Too expensive to maintain. Autonomous weapons are cheaper, more resilient and are better at killing stuff. Also, they already exist. There's huge guns mounted to vans that can automatically identify and kill humans up to a mile or so away. There's still some issues and drones have kind of come in at an even cheaper price point, so there's that.

Metanoiac

Good points.

lord_nougat

Because the clone consortiums secretly control hollywood from afar.

ThirteenthZodiac

Excellent movie, but not a good example of how cloning actually works.

ShillKiller007

A clone is just another person with the same DNA. Big woop.

dianemdeath

And no soul. Your soul is given to you by God. Not the local scientists. God bless

talmoridor-x

Soul exists everywhere where there's energy. Interactions between energy spawn sentience.

dianemdeath

If you say so.

ThirteenthZodiac

...go back to the q-tard verses, please. You're clearly too ill-equipped to have a rational conversation.

dianemdeath

You just don't like the answers.

ThirteenthZodiac

Your earlier statement indicates that you anthropomorphize your deity of choice. Given your capitalization, I'm going to assume some flavor of Christian, which would indicate that you have certain beliefs regarding the qualities of said deity. Those qualities are incompatible with anthropomorphization of said deity, making your beliefs inconsistent.

Shall I continue?

dianemdeath

Yes, I am Christan, Catholic to be precise and there's nothing you are going to say to sway my life long belief. So stating right off my beliefs' are inconsistent in some warped attempt to make me feel inferior will not work.

ThirteenthZodiac

Yes, I am Christan, Catholic to be precise and there's nothing you are going to say to sway my life long belief.

I didn't say anything about persuading you to believe otherwise.

I have no qualms with your religious beliefs, and would actually prefer living in a significantly more Christian society than what we have today, specifically because Christianity was - for better or worse - the underpinning of Western civilization. As such I believe it plays a fundamental role in maintaining the social fabric that makes Western civilization possible to begin with, and - given that - I have no intention of attempting to sway you from that.

Instead, consider this discussion a way of clarifying your understanding of your religion and what it is, precisely, that you believe.

So stating right off my beliefs' are inconsistent in some warped attempt to make me feel inferior will not work.

I'm not quite sure where to begin unpacking this. So let's try a different tack, shall we?

You made the assertion that "your soul is given to you by god." Would you expound on this, please? I have a few specific questions: (1) when is it, exactly, in your opinion, that a soul is invested in a creature?; and (2) ignoring the metaphysics of your religion for a moment (so let's avoid discussion of an afterlife and "sin"), what are the benefits of having a soul?

dianemdeath

Fair enough. The soul is. It exists. Created by God and indestructible. The soul is usually transferred to the being at conception. However, there are exceptions in timing.

ThirteenthZodiac

Fun thing about conception, is that lots of animals do that.

Bears, for instance. Bears mate in pretty much the same way people do.

Do bears have souls? Why or why not?

dianemdeath

This will surprise you, and not part of my religious upbringing, but yes. Animals have souls.

Wahaha

If animals have souls, why can't they get into heaven?

dianemdeath

Animals do go to heaven.

I'm not sure where we in general, were taught to believe that animals can't/don't go to heaven but they do.

SquarebobSpongebutt

So, are test tube babies soul-less? What about other types of artificial insemination? You assume science and religion are mutually exclusive and that God would not grant a soul to someone not born from an act of sexual intercourse. Why would God grant a soul to a child born of a gang rape but not of a clone?

dianemdeath

I have never heard scientists giving a damn about the soul. Maybe God draws the line at humans thinking their God and making a complete biological human.

ShillKiller007

Identical twins have the same DNA, do they not have souls?

dianemdeath

Yes, identical twins, triplets, quads, etc have souls.

lord_nougat

OMG! Gingers are CLONES!

dianemdeath

What are you talking about?

lord_nougat

Clones. And gingers. And their unholy alliance.

meowski

watch the original Blade Runner, if you haven't seen it. the new version was trash.

lord_nougat

The new one is just a sequel.

But it could never hope to compare to the original.

yellowthread

The most reasonable answer is it's kind of a boring topic, which is not practically much different from a movie about brothers or twins.

SquarebobSpongebutt

This exactly. Clones would basically be twins but younger. Maybe someone raising their clone as their child might make a decent movie if done properly, but probably still not as good as a sci-fi about someone finding out they are a clone.

Wahaha

There's also this Sci-Fi movie that is set in the past, like a long time ago. It's called Clone Wars or Attack of the Cones or something along those lines.

Tallest_Skil

Parts: The Clonus Horror covers one of the ramifications of clones. If you don’t like Peter Graves, you can watch the knockoff that Michael Bay stole without credit, The Island.

FH_Rileys_MaitreD

Beat me to it. This movie terrofoed me a s little boy.

Wahaha

Why?

Conspirologist

Thanks. Parts: The Clonus Horror looks realistic enough.

ShillKiller007

You could also watch the MST3K version. The commentary makes the movie slightly more watchable.