VIP740

Anyone remember how they were showing 1984 in theaters after Trump was elected? And it was supposed to be warning us about Trump and fake news from alternative media?

VoatsNewfag

Capitalism is really good at making things more cost-efficient and automated. Do you think it can go so far as to make a socialist dystopia sustainable?

We are already about to automate surveillance. Voice and face recognition are always improving. Cameras are already everywhere and drones are getting cheaper each year. People voluntarily wiretap their houses with smart devices.

Even propaganda can be automated. People probably already created bots that automatically vote on reddit based on certain keywords to suppress news. Facebook is working on an AI that can identify offensive memes.

IIJOSEPHXII

Capitalism is great at making NPCs.

AlphaOmega

It really is truly amazing to me how prophetic that book has become. It surprises me even more how few people take it seriously.

RollinDaGrassTyson

And even more surprise is how few people have read it.

srgmpdns

' Duckspeak ' is one of Orwell's better concepts, and one of the least known.

VoatsNewfag

The use of them encouraged a gabbling style of speech, at once staccato and monotonous. And this was exactly what was aimed at. The intention was to make speech, and especially speech on any subject not ideologically neutral, as nearly as possible independent of consciousness. For the purposes of everyday life it was no doubt necessary, or sometimes necessary, to reflect before speaking, but a Party member called upon to make a political or ethical judgement should be able to spray forth the correct opinions as automatically as a machine gun spraying forth bullets.

Sounds kind of like buzzwords to me.

Racist. Sexist. Diversity. Marginalized. Male toxicity. Rape Culture.

I recall seeing a video in which students were asked to define male toxicity and they couldn't. It seemed as if most pondered for the first time the meaning of that word.

Though it doesn't fit exactly what he is describing. It's often times not said in a monotonous manner and it doesn't seem like their vocabulary is sinking.

Cottus

To speak without echoes.

HST

Okay but who blocks out the rest of it? Just outline it

It's funny to see a "censored" version of 1984

goatmensch

The "Two Minutes Hate" is Twitter.

Yuke

Never forget, in that book "Ingsoc" was a portmanteau of 'English Socialism'. Consider yourselves warned (that's a message to the shills who are actively working towards creating a '1984' but don't know it because they're stupid fucking NPC's).

senpaithatignoresyou

The thing about that book, is that form of government would collapse in decade, or once the wealth ran out, which ever came first.

It just can't exist, and the socialists don't see that.

Thin_White_Duke

It would survive. The party leaders explained that they were happy to live a shittier life than they could, as long as it was slightly better and they held power.

Every time I read it, I believe more and more that the party was setup to almost become autonomous. Like people were devolving to idiocy, just smart enough to keep the machines running and nothing else, feeding the party. Once history was erased, you didn't need Winston's group. Once geography was forgotten, who cares who we're at war with. Just get up, go to a factory, slave away, eat shit, drink piss, go home and sleep.

Disturbing as fuck.

Judgejewdy

Seems like America already.

senpaithatignoresyou

Yeah, that is disturbing. But unsustainable. The moment a hiccup hits that machine: a bad harvest, no more material, a new disease, too many births, not enough births, a random storm, etc etc, then the society would collapse.

The true crime in that book, the sin, the great evil: the destruction of the human spirit. Once that is gone, a person becomes useless.