jimibulgin

Whenever you see someone mention "Anti-vaxxer", and advocate for 'mandatory vaccines', ask them one or both of the following questions:

1) Which vaccines, specifically, should be required by law?

2) Please post your vaccine history, with PII blacked-out.

I have yet to get a reply to either one.

ichlibejuice

There's only 13, you stupid nigger. You're counting multi-dose vaccines from 2017 and not from 1986. If you want your child to die of measels 6 months when its body can't benefit from a full dose. Go ahead and risk raising the national IQ so you only have to make two or three trips to the pediatrician. Won't see me complaining.

Mr_Wolf

I think the anti vaxx movement is dumb as shit, but even I think 53 is excessive. What worked in 86 is possibly all thats needed today,

HenryCabotLodge

There is no oversight of BIG PHARMA. If you kid dies and you want to sue? There is ONE COURT in DC - It is a secret Vaccine Court. It works like Workers Compensation. You make your claim. If its a Vac death (or harm) they look down a grid chart (like workers comp) and pay your claim off the grid on the chart. ("Oh, thanks for coming Chap. Sorry you had this problem and your son will drool the rest of his life in that wheelchair. Here is your check. Oh look at the time. I really do have to run. Good Luck. Have a nice life.")

Warnos44

You forgot to mention it comes from tax payers!

HenryCabotLodge

I think it is all wrong. No one asked me that question.

blueskywins

More to Do with poisoning, rendering us infertile, and killing us while making money off of us the entire way. This is all about the population and control for the satanic elites.

Fateswebb

And enslavement.

What other large corporate scam, lobbiests ran, obvious propaganda bullshit, do the normies defend like it's their lives.

They can't see that it's big pharma they're defending. They just suck up the lies and embrace them with their hearts not even questioning some of the obvious bullshit..

It's pretty amazing the grip their mind fuck has on the population. They spew forth illogical argumentslike it was gospel. And any scientific evidence or anyone asking real questions that go against the narrative are loony.

Like seriously we have reached a time where if you ask questions it's considered crazy, just think about that for a second. Even if you have blaring evidence that you are probably being lied to, don't question it or you're crazy.

What other giant corporate comglomorate enjoys such loyalty from the masses?

Epictetus_Hierapolis

Just had a huge argument about this at work. I had two questions: who do I sue if the vaccine kills or severely injures my kid, and how many measles deaths were there in the US in the last ten years? The only responses they could manage were the typical Jenny McCarthy bullshit, and herd immunity.

We have a closed door policy, where the three of us will discuss and say whatever we want. So much so, that we frequently have month long arguments about my support for national socialism, and their support for libertarianism and Berney socialism. This argument made me really considering debating with them on anything again.

Fateswebb

Check the replies to my comment. Already someone has answered your question about who to sue..

Epictetus_Hierapolis

Hush money and a non disclosure are not the same thing as a lawsuit that sets precidence against corrupt testing, kickbacks, CDC heads that are shareholders of the producing pharmaceutical companies, etc.

You know who doesn't get anything from NVICP? Anyone without tens of thousands of dollars to spend on medical testing and lawyers, as well as anyone vaccine injured by DoD required vaccines. Sure, you are free to file a claim, but the DoD will never ever admit fault of the vaccine regardless of evidence.

solvire

Remember thalidomide

Med never harms.

P4TR10TP1550NL1B5

It has less to do with shekels and more to do with making sure the goyim are effectively poisoned. Sick and autistic goyim are far less likely to take a fight to these evil kikes.

hels

And let's not forget you have to get those 10 year boosters for the rest of your life.

Real talk for a second: the invention of vaccines was fantastic. However, we know that whenever something is good, someone will make money and the government wants control. I cannot figure out why there is such a huge flu shot push. I would imagine that as time/hygiene/prosperity increased the flu virus killed fewer people each year. We'll never eradicate the flu so why do governments push so hard for everyone to get a shot that "might' vaccinate against the current years virus? The government never does anything preventative unless it benefits them with money or control.

NoRagrets

If you actually believe this, and I'm not saying you're wrong, you need to stop using the word "autistic" in your argument.

biscuitrage

Can someone provide a list of vaccines required by law?

jimibulgin

I think a vitamin K shot is required at birth federally. Nothing else is.

jollux

Just get the 11 they got in 1986

SharpSliceOfMango

In Germany your Kid gets vaccines for 16 disease. The Health insurance does not pay for more so Germans don't get more. Those 16 vaccines are usefull but I would never give my kid 53 vaccines and I would not give them vaccines that are new on the "market".

jollux

Do you have the list of 16? In german is fine.

SharpSliceOfMango

The stuff you should get (11 diseases)

6-Fach Impfung:

Tetanus,

Diphtherie,

Keuchhusten,

Hib,

Kinderlähmung

Hepatitis B

Meningokokken-Impfung

3-Fach Impfung:

Masern

Mumps

Röteln

Other stuff:

Windpocken-Impfung

HPV

Pneumokokken (Nicht unbedingt erforderlich)

Influenza (Nur bei Risiko)

Rotaviren

Tuberkulose (Nicht mehr verfügbar)

Impfkalender: https://www.gelbe-liste.de/impfung/impfkalender

jollux

Excellent! Thank you so much, this is a big help.

Fateswebb

There are none. But they won't let you know that, they will literally like to you and tell you your kids can be taken that they cannot attend d school etc. They will like all they can to make you believe it's the law.

Far2Long2

Constitution, Common Law or Admiralty Law? British Maritime Law? Choose your law.

BoraxTheFungarian

Bird law.

undertheshills

There are no vaccines required by law. Forced inoculation means you have no control over what goes in your body and is slap in the face to personal freedom. They use schools to force them on you, most states allow you to sign waivers. They push vaccines at birth now. my last kid they tried to give him a hepatitis vaccine. I was like no hes not getting a prison tattoo on the way home he will be fine.

dundundunnnnn

Required by law? It should be ZERO. The government should not force vaccines.

NewWorld

I think most US states have a religious exemption so you do not have to follow the vaccine schedule or vaccinate at all (I think CA does not have this but you'd have to double check if you live there). You can also choose a delayed vaccine plan (no more than 1 shot per visit) but it's more expensive because you'll have to take your kid to the doctor more often.

----Warning PDF----

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/past/2017-child.pdf

This is from the CDC website and lists the current vaccines. In 1983, The schedule included the MMR, DTP (now reformulated as DTaP), and OPV (now IPV) for polio. They recommended a tetanus booster at 14-16 and every 10 years thereafter but I doubt most adults are compliant. The HIB was added sometime within a few years of the 1983 schedule but it was found to be completely ineffective. It is now administered with other vaccines to improve efficacy.

4841400209

Don't remember the docs name who wrote a book on it, but basically he said giving infants so many shots actually causes a mini-stroke. Anyone remember his name?

mightnotbearobot

If you had socialized healthcare you wouldn't be so beholden to Big Pharma

Fateswebb

Are you kidding me? It would be mandatory then.

Charilko

Having lived under socialized medicine in the military for a decade, trust me, you don’t want them running things.

mightnotbearobot

Having lived up socialised healthcare for my entire life, trust me, its better than what you have right now.

dontdoxxmefaggots

you don't even know what we have right now you fucking communist

mightnotbearobot

You are beholden to Big Pharma profits. Isn't that what this topic is about?

dontdoxxmefaggots

i'm not beholden to anybody, you fucking foreign trash

enjoy your rationed health care, approved only if the government says so

mightnotbearobot

... enjoy being bent over by Big Pharma, approved because Big Pharma says so

dontdoxxmefaggots

enjoy being taxed over 50% and having the government tell you "no" when treatment is too expensive

you may also enjoy having all your medicine invented in america, you foreign piece of shit

EarlPoncho

bruh you wouldnt trust the government to do anything for you yet you want them dispense health for you lmao

also in a country with 78% of people overweight or obese it's just not possible. get swole and then we can have that convo

jollux

Socialised medicine can mean subsidised weight loss clinics. It is, after all, a health epidemic.

CowWithBeef

That would further guarantee their risk-free profits.

mightnotbearobot

How?

CowWithBeef

Then they only have to convince one buyer. I certainly factored in the cost when deciding which vaccines are worth the cost and risk to give my child.

mightnotbearobot

Out of interest, which vaccines were worth the cost to your child?

My vaccinations were free when I was a kid.

CowWithBeef

Depends how deep down the rabbit hole I go, but Hib, Pc, and DTaP(not pediarix) had the best returns on investment from my calculations. That was based on giving clinical data a lot of weight and assuming chronic illnesses like peanut allergies and autism having nothing to do with vaccines. I probably won't vaccinate future children at all.

mightnotbearobot

Well, I hope your children don't die of measles or any other preventable illness. Godspeed.

CowWithBeef

Measles is a minor disease that affects so few people it's like winning the disease Powerball to get measles. Not worth worrying about that one. Plus mmr is the most parents think led to developmental regression so you have to assume they're all wrong to consider it.

mightnotbearobot

I wonder why so few people are affected by measles... Hmm. I will have to go to bed and ponder it.

CowWithBeef

It's been eradicated in the USA partially by vaccination.

altident

Cars didn't have seat belts in 1955 and now they have 5. Why? The answer is all about big nylon profits.

CameraCode

The number of seatbelts per seat has not increased since modern standards were put in place decades ago. What an absolutely terrible comparison. The only way it would be fair was if modern cars had like 12 seatbelts per seat, and each additional seatbelt could injure you, and seatbelt manufacturers made massive profits off making people use more seatblets.

CowWithBeef

If a car malfunctions and hurts you, you sue the car company. If a vaccine malfunctions and hurts you, it's illegal to sue the vaccine company.

Fateswebb

That's actually not true. And many people get millions of dollars for suing. But they also make them sign a NDA so as to not spread the word about the settlements.

Fateswebb

Yep thanks for that.

altident

Doesn't have anything to do with the premise

CameraCode

Your premise is a completely illogical and irrelevant comparison in the first place.

altident

Your complaint doesn't even have anything to do with OP's premise. And the point of my comparison is to show that improving safety factors and prolonging lifespans is a natural progression of any industry that involves things that might shorten them (like diseases or car accidents).

Samsquamch

I didn't realize OP was discussing who can legally sue who with their post, thanks for setting the record straight /s

VicariousJambi

Gotta love people toting around apples to oranges comparisons and acting like they're relavant.

CameraCode

That's why I hate comparisons, because the vast majority of the time they are a major warping of the issues. Very unscientific, ironically coming from the anti vaccine questioning group.

Rotteuxx

  1. Women's suffrage.

OMG people are dying, we need more laws !

  1. Insurance companies.

Well these payouts sure are getting expensive Moishe, we better do something about it.

notbuying

Why? Because white doctors and researchers are commited to improving life and healthy for everyone. The alternative? Shorter shittier lives, stillborns, cripples and cancer. But tell us again why are vacvines bad for us?

Fateswebb

How's that propaganda treating ya.

notbuying

It's disgusting.

badruns

Yes, because our generation has a higher life expectancy than our fathers.

Wait, no it's the reverse.

altident

Literally false