winners_history

There's been one for years , and it's comprised of the most law-abiding people in the country. It's the concealed-carry reciprocity scam, which has already de-generated into just what Paul warns about, a nationwide database of handgun owners .

Art1cBear

You can make guns at home legally.

goatmensch

Republicans have a long history of supporting gun control.

This is why the Uniparty is an arm of the ZOG.

cm18

What is the bill number?

RageAgainstTheAmish

Any retard who registers their gun deserves to have it taken from them

TitDirtt

Better stock up then.

Mr_Wolf

@2fast4u92 they're working on regulating those now. a bill on it passed the senate last week. 80 lowers pretty much got cleaned off ebay or sold out at online store. a few of the lowers I was watching sold for $200+ when normal price is $50 to $150.

those are something to grab now then buy the parts slowly even if you dont build.

2fast4u92

I have a couple, one for a 7mm08 AR10 build and one for a 7.62x39 AR15 build. They are still pretty cheap around me but I may grab a few more just for good measure.

TitDirtt

Machine from scratch then. Not that hard.

B-------D

How hard is this for someone who has never done that shit before? We are not talking drill press and some hand files I am guessing.

TitDirtt

I'm sure there are prints that show what needs to be done and probably videos that show the process and best order to do it.

Start out with smaller projects and read a book about basic machining. I'm. No pro either but I'm confident I could figure it out. I've only done a little bit of work on a lathe and mill.

Got to realize that if you don't have the proper machining equipment (vertical mill instead of a drill press) and you're not experienced,it won't be as pretty as a purchased lower. But you're aiming for functionality. You could always try again and make a couple.

But I'd suggest looking up some beginner projects to get the feel for machining steel or aluminum. The hardest part for you since you're a beginner will be milling, but since you have a drill press you probably won't be able to mill and will probably have to get creative with pecking holes to remove material. Then clean it up on a belt sander and with a file.

B-------D

Thanks for the great post. Yeah I would have to take a lot of time and learn it. I think I would need more tools than I have to really do it and If Im going to do it I might as well do it right. Thanks for your reply though. A project for next winter maybe when I get my shop set up.

Mr_Wolf

think that started as an April fools joke, but if you got the prints a drill press, dremel and hand tools can get you somewhere.

SIayfire122

If you have a CNC machine, every chunk of metal is whatever you want it to be.

2fast4u92

I already have more guns than I and my family can shoot. And shoot I will. The simple fact is that there are too many guns already out there to allow peaceful removal. It would take way too long. They are accellerating everything else at such a rate that they simply won't have time to disarm us before attempting to implement communism unless they try something drastic. Which will end in their deaths.

B-------D

Could you imagine it... a bunch of dejected cops going door to door.. Do you have any guns? No officer. No guns here. Rinse Repeat til someone gets nervous and shoots the cop. They would kill every cop 10x over and get nearly no guns. Probably not even 1%.

2fast4u92

Most cops I know would slap their badge down on the desk and walk out

B-------D

I hope there are a lot like that. Often I doubt it from what I hear but I am sure there are some who will. Problem is they will just be replaced in a minute so we will be left with less good cops and more bad cops. Either way it will go the way I said I think if they try confiscation.

2fast4u92

I feel like even bad cops aren't going to want to get shot up. Hard telling, guess we will see. It can't be much longer at the current rate of acceleration.

B-------D

Yeah it's soon. Trump is making his play now. It's going to work or it isn't. If it works then my guess is there will be a shit load of drama and then a re-election and things will start to get a lot better.

If he fails (doubtful at this point). Then there will be a Civil War and a breakup and balkanization of the US if we lose or there will be a bloodbath and an implementation of Trump's plan anyway. So Trump would have to lose then the civil war would have to be lost. Both are EXTREMELY unlikely att his point. I mean just imagine if Q was putting out hit lists in the middle of a civil war. Seriously. Imagine zerg-swarms of anons randomly hitting the enemies all over the nation at Q's command. You could never defend against it. They can see ALL and would send us the the weakest points in large enough numbers to win easily.

mememeyou

Never Forget This ... the day before any gun confiscation passes, is the day to bring all your ammo & guns on a boat and run capsizing drills. It'd be a real shame to give the government the finger.

1cd1233

Where are these words, "The government shall do nothing to interfere with these rights".

Eleutheria

They disappeared right around the same time the "Judeo-Christian" meme popped up, and someone engraved graffiti on the base of the Statue of Liberty.

1cd1233

I have a copy! More than willing to force feed the illiterate. They will never ever take my rights, I will defend 'til the end & forever!

2fast4u92

80% receivers. Checkmate kikes.

Art1cBear

You get it

tentra

80% receivers will do a pretty poor job at cleaning congress of the kikes, try a fully assembled AR instead!

2fast4u92

Haha of course. But which one? I have a 5.56 AR15, 7.62x51 AR10, and two 80s + some of the parts for a 7.62x39 AR15 build and 7mm-08 AR10 build. Plus a Steyer AUG A3, and a Mossberg 500 12ga, Savage .308 bolt action, and Sig Sauer P226 in .357 Sig.

LexOrandiLexCredendi

Maryland just tried to outlaw them.

Old_n_Grumpy

my cold dead hands...

The1stLantern

How would national confiscation ever be enforced? They going to send patrolmen door to door?

jimibulgin

A few high-profiles examples will get some percentage of people to give them up voluntarily. They will chip, chip, chip away at the edges. It's like eating a jaw-breaker.

hang_em_high

Who's going to sign up for door to door confiscations once their buddies start getting killed? The below plan is probably right though. That and just chip away at gun rights like they are already doing.

fuckingawesomePOTUS

Not a single shot was fired after Katrina or the Boston bomber.

GapingAnus

How would national confiscation ever be enforced?

The fantasy is that The big scary government will suddenly pop up FEMA camps and checkpoints with cloned federal agents performing illegal searches until an intrepid band of patriotic freedom fighters start fighting back.

In reality, you can do this fairly easily through propaganda for the most part. You don't remove a product by eliminating the supply; you do it by removing the demand. Massively campaign against the young and impressionable. Sitcoms with "gun nuts" being conspiracy theorists with literal tin foil hats on. Social media campaigns conflating firearms with every negative stereotype imaginable.

Combine this with small and incrementally increasing annoyances. Want to sell a gun, here's a couple forms. In triplicate, please. Oh and you need this stamped. And we only do that on Thursdays etc. etc. More stringent restrictions on where you may use your firearms. More stringent licensing for shooting ranges. No shooting within ten miles of residential areas. Legalize marijuana. No firearms purchases or use allowed if you have smoked marijuana within the past month or two.

A couple decades of this and the only people who will even want firearms will be the outcasts and they will be allowed to polish their guns and dream about insurrection until they are six feet under.

Guns gone with not a shot fired.

B-------D

So pretty much what is happening NOW.

ThirteenthZodiac

This man understands the lay of the land.

We can see that this is the path we're on. The question is: how do we stop it?

GapingAnus

The question is: how do we stop it?

Since you asked and since propaganda is one of my favourite topics:

During WWII, the allies discovered that the most effective propaganda to affect German soldiers was that which was honest (even to the detriment of the allies occasionally), funny and separated them from their leaders. Political leaders, mind you, not command staff. Leaflets were distributed that showed the leadership in Berlin as incompetent but the German soldier himself as honest and the inheritor of the Germanic warrior spirit. When a battle went the wrong way for the allies, this was also mentioned with praise for the strong fighting will of the German soldier and his competent officers.

The moral is that people respond more to narrative than facts (so long as you're not outright fabricating easily debunked nonsense, that is).

Secondly, during the various leftist insurrections in Europe, the police discovered that the hardest groups to infiltrate were the affinity groups. This is where we got the idea of cells operating independently but with ephemeral ties upwards (but not sideways) in the hierarchy and operational decision-making rested with the cell itself to prevent usurpation further up in the hierarchy.

The moral of the story is that you need to know the people you're socializing with.

To retain firearm culture and even expand it, you need a better narrative and you need more socializing between members to recruit and retain members as well as to flush out agent provocateurs and generally unstable bad eggs who shouldn't have firearms to begin with. To do that, do what has worked elsewhere where this is a problem:

  • Have gun clubs. Don't just show up at a range. It needs to be a social activity for the whole family. Have a picnic or other outing or something and get to know other families involved. Appear harmless.
  • Make it a sport. Sports are ingrained in culture as a positive ideal and propaganda campaigns telling you that shooting is not a "real" sport or that it is somehow different will be met with hostility by the otherwise indifferent because we've seen similar attacks against sports that are now literally part of the Olympics. Appear harmless.
  • Have firearms conventions. Make them fun. Not cringy fun and full of fightin' words but educational. Have lectures about history, metallurgy, chemistry etc. Get kids involved but don't propagandize to them, let them come along naturally. Remember you're selling your hobby to otherwise indifferent people. Appear harmless.
  • Learn to hunt. Seriously. You don't need to hunt , just learn how to. Give your activity a veneer of hobby and give it more legs to stand on. People don't like it when government or special interests attack the hobbies of other people. Appear harmless. Make yourselves seem like the victims, not angry men who are yelling about "muh cold dead hands."
  • Have smaller clubs organized hierarchically. Clubs should be small groups of reasonably active people. So small that everyone is on a first-name basis with everyone else. So small that you can buy a beer for everyone involved.
  • Prepare to commit to civil disobedience. Learn how to store illegal firearms away from your house but under your control. Learn from preppers here. Nuff said.

Some words really ought to be said about solidarity and willingness "receive blows but not deal them" as Gandhi said but I think those days are past. Peaceful resistance is an immensely powerful propaganda tool but it absolutely rests on people's ability to cooperate and willingness to sacrifice for their cause which I'm not yet seeing.

a100167

Thank you GapingAnus for giving me something terrible to visualize, I have to say it really stinks.

Caliope

I salute you for the perspecuity and excellent logic. May Your anus gape wide and with great odoriferous salutations!

The1stLantern

That's.. Both a reasonable and terrifying breakdown. Goddamnit.

GapingAnus

Because it has already happened. Where I live, there wasn't a farm or a cabin in the mountains that didn't have multiple shotguns hanging on walls. You could get a shotgun at 16 with zero paperwork. Most everyone had a revolver of some sort, not for personal defense, just because you could.

Cue half a century later and school books are full of friendly cartoon-policemen taking (all white) caricature bandits with eye masks to jail so you don't need your firearms at all. Firemen in the same books are exclusively women. Politicians are women. Every angry person is white, male and usually elderly and is presented as a sad stereotype you ought to have sympathy with.

Guns are making a comeback now only because with the increasing knife crime and police unwillingness to deal with the problem, people are deciding it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. The press refuses to report on all the instances of brandishing where "urban youth" with knives are scared off by someone who decided that today they'd start carrying concealed without anyone knowing.

totes_magotes

At which point you shoot them when they're at your neighbor's house, not your own.

The1stLantern

I'm still just thinking who would do such a thing? Youd have to be mad to think even the military and police together could confiscate every gun from every American.

totes_magotes

They did a bang up job of it in New Orleans during Katrina.

KosherMedia

Yeah, they even broke an old lady's arm for the crime of refusing their illegal entry into her home to confiscate her firearms.

totes_magotes

It's almost time...

American-Patriot

NOW!