bman0321

https://archive.fo/ax9X2

Goats and Soda

NPR cites WHO estimating 2.7 million deaths a year before measles vaccine introduced. 2017 110,000 deaths, mostly children under 5. Segregate kids into vaccinated and non vaccinated schools and watch the diseases burn through.

madmalloy

It's always insightful seeing the vaccinated get sick.

bman0321

Having a bunch of diseased kids who in essence are pretri dishes running mutating incubation factories spreads newly evolved diseases to the vaccinated which are getting people sick. This is the main problem with the flu virus and flu vaccines. I really don't care if people's kids die when parents refuse to vaccinate. You reap what you sow. It's a shame when idiotic parents get the kids of responsible parents kids sick or dead.

madmalloy

And the 'vaccinated" kids are just approved petrii dishes running around with whatever big pharma decides to inject them with that year. It's a shame when idiotic people think that big pharma does a better job with their immune system malware than using their own immune system and staying healthy

basedmangod2015

tough shit fuckwads, no jab no play

Epictetus_Hierapolis

How many people have died from measles in the US in the last year? Hell, the last five years?

Fateswebb

It's laughable almost, if they weren't serious. This is a disease that parents used to send their own kids over to Johnnie's house because Johnnie had the measles and they WANTED their kids to get it too, so they could get it over with. Wow just a harmful disease.. how they have turned that into something big and sacry is beyond me.

Fateswebb

Thanks patriot

BraunF14

Anti-vaxxers are just as bad as flat earthers.

SharpSliceOfMango

Its not always black and white. You should get your kid the 11-16 normal vaccines but not the whole 53 untestet vaccines. Those are just used by big pharma for shekel making.

BraunF14

Getting closer to what I'm talking about. The rest of the repliers seem blatantly anti-vax. Vaccines DO help and do more good than harm.

CowWithBeef

I don't even know how they're comparable. One antivax position is not trusting consumer products that have a federal court protecting producers from injury liability. This position requires zero denial of any provax claims and makes perfect sense for purely economic reasons. For flat earth you have to rewrite the laws of physics.

madmalloy

Nice try at conflating the two.

BraunF14

They've both been led to form their own misguided conclusions based off intentionally false claims they found on the internet with zero real evidence against the counter argument. They're both just as cringey as one another.

jbo5112

Intentionally false claims like they're perfectly safe? Any vaccine I've looked up has potential side effects. Also, the government agency that was given sole oversight of their safety was successfully sued by RFK Jr. for failing to file any reports for decades.

Medical treatments should always weigh the risks and effects of treatment against the risks and effects of the disease.

BraunF14

I'd say not getting measles as a toddler outweighs ANY potential risk of getting autism which there still is not link to being a result of vaccinations

jbo5112

MMR is probably the most worthwhile. Hepatitis B for an infant…not so much.

Epictetus_Hierapolis

How many people have died from measles in the US in the last five years? How many people have been compensated by the vaccine injury fund due to the measles vaccine? How many people suffered vaccine injury from measles and didn't get compensation, because they couldn't afford the tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees?

Fateswebb

Bullshit man, my nephew was a bright young boy learning to say grandma one day. Got his vaccinations and since the next day has never said another word.byoure the one believing class claims. The measles used to be a nothingburger, parents would send their kids to catch it intentionally just to get it behind them.

Flat earthers don't use any logic at all, anti vaxxers have MOUNDS AND MOUNDS of evidence in their favor. It's just suppressed by big pharma. The CDC even had a whistleblower come out and admit they covered up the finding of a CDC study that showed a direct connection between vaccines and autism.

madmalloy

Sure, false claims are what the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program pays out on. I think you don't want to accept the truth. Keep on believing in big pharma.

BraunF14

I don't trust Big Pharma, as we call it. But I do trust vaccines. They do help stop our children from suffering from terrible diseases.

madmalloy

And they damage or kill a lot kids too.

ZenAtheist

Stupid parents. Idiots will put their kids back in school where some degenerate teacher will do her best to convince the kids that they're trans. Teachers may need parental consent to vaccinate kids, but they don't need it to put them on puberty blockers and sterilize them.

fr33europe

Exactly, fuck it, if you're an upstanding human with a good family background, if they don't want your kids, fuck them.

What-the-kek

Oh no not measles,anything but measles! Remember when measles used to not be a big deal and when a kid got measles mom's would send their kids over to get measles so the neighborhood could deal with it all at once and not worry about measles after that like one big immunity effort?

Smarty_jc

I always understood that to be chicken pox. Pox parties were a big thing. I though measles was a little more serious. That vaccine also covers mumps which can be dangerous in prepubescent children if it accompanied by a fever.
I have to go with the vaccines on this one. I can understand people that don't want the entire barrage of vaccines that they give all at once. But by the time your kids reach school age, there is no excuse not to have them vaccinated against a disease that was on the brink of eradication in civilized nations. I am sure that I will get a ton of hate for disagreeing with the never ending circle jerk that some posts seem to become, but honestly I have never been compelled to believe vaccines are causing health problems. I do see legitimate concern with the way they are scheduled though.

What-the-kek

Hell I'm not a doctor or scientist. From what I understand though it was super dangerous way way way back in the day due lack of educated doctors and parents. It's really bad if you catch it as an adult but you won't catch it again, it's much easier for your body to fight back when you're a kid from what I understand. Certain vaccines are okay but every time they come out with a new vaccine they demonize the disease as if it's the end of the world if you don't get the vaccine and make you out to be crazy conspirator if you don't get pump your kid with every single vsccine. Hell I've gotten vaccines as a kid but idk what I actually got. I got a tetnis shot because it seemed like a good idea since I deal with alot of rust. Pumping your body full of vaccines because you're afraid of judgment is stupid, weak minded people jumping on the fear train. Do the research, get the vaccines you think your kids need and don't just put random doctor magic cure in them just because someone said so. Stay informed

downton-stabby

Vaccines of 50 / 100 years ago do not have to be the same as what's put in them today. You're not allowed to sue the mfgs, there's a monopoly on it, can't tell what's in side, Don't look behind the curtain.

analyticalalligator

It's actually that measles in adults can be dangerous while the disease among children is relatively safe.

24601_JeanValJean

Didja ever see a kid with measles in their CNS? Measles isn't just a rash.

poly

Humans have been successfully evolving alongside measles for millions of years, and will continue to evolve alongside measles for millions more years

derram

https://archive.ph/iTLRC :

2019-03-12 | Parents of 44 children who have not been vaccinated against measles file lawsuit | Daily Mail Online

'The outraged parents of 44 pupils who have not been vaccinated against the measles have filed a federal lawsuit to get their children back in school. '

'The children from Green Meadow Waldorf school had been told by authorities in December that they would not be allowed to enter the school as they had not been vaccinated against the measles virus. '

'The federal lawsuit, filed by 24 plaintiffs, argues that the order, which was brought in place after an outbreak of the virus last October, goes against their religious beliefs. '

'The shocking outbreak led to state officials frantically trying to contain the situation and led to schools imposing that pupils be vaccinated against the virus. '

'Since October last year, the number of people left battling the virus reached a staggering 145. '

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