MagneticTightrope

If this was indeed a psy op, and they didn't want people to see it, then why the fuck did they decide to record and live stream it at all? No logic here.

YoHomie

The shooting must be fake... I read it on the Internet.

xenoPsychologist

then why arent you on your way out to make a real one? be the hero.

LazyJello8

jesus you believers in this shit are beyond retarded..

Fullmetal

This is just proof of how fake video games and movies really are.

yewotm8

Why would they film it at all if it was gonna be fake? Why publish a "manifesto" that actually makes good points? Why choose a likable, seemingly regular guy to do it?

People saying its fake have way harder questions to answer than some bullshit in a video shot with a low quality camera and microphone streamed over some guy's cell phone data to fucking Facebook video of all places.

usernameisnotthis

i think (((they))) picked this guy and made the manifesto cuz it shows to the public a good idea of who we are(chans and voat people), they plan on making us the enemy and slow us down with restrictions to certain websites. and making the public denounce whatever comes from the chans/voat. neutering our influence IMO.. i'm so hesitate to believe this to be a legit movement because, when was the last time a mass shooting was a legit mass shooting and not a ff or setup of some kind... i'm just not fully settling on this yet. the right call is to be weary about this.

Haywood_Jablomeme

But shitty streamed video should be able to pick up muh exact sounds and small details like spent cartridges and blood even though the video is blurry and never stops moving!

NNdmt

nah certain sounds and cartridges are immune to the loss that occurs with lossy data compression. Don't let the Jews convince you otherwise.

drhitler

well make a fucking video then of how that gun looks like in a first person video, its that fucking simple

DeadFox

Guess noone saw the shells? The gun smoke filling the mosque? The blood spray or pools? Keep shilling kike.

TheWorstImaginable

Well, the gun does completely overwhelm the mic. I've seen people catch rounds to the face, up close. What I saw in the video doesn't make me think it's fake.

The one thing that sort of stood out to me was the smoke. About 10 minutes after watching the video I thought about police response and I started thinking about why the fire alarms didn't go off. I've seen handguns shot in buildings and the alarm across the room went off after 5 or 6 rounds. With the amount of firing he did you'd think it would set off an alarm.

ARsandOutdoors

This guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Assuming that Brenton bought SS109, which is M855 (Green tips for you plebs) but "Nato," It'll just ice pick through people. The images that he shown are NOT green tips, likely they are either Mk262, or more than likely M193. I'm coming to this conclusion based off the fact that the guy was shot in the thigh, and tumbled/"fragmented" with in 8in or so (diameter of an average thigh abouts).

dayofthehope

Here's a video that demonstrates the fragmentation of the M855 Nato round .

ARsandOutdoors

tbh, I know the process's to which they came to determine the proper material density used in ballistic gelatin and I disagree with the methods used to come to that conclusion. The early testing type was too dense, the new stuff is still too dense. Pigs are the best test medium, except it is difficult to get consistent repeatability per shot.

m855 is garbage. To hoard? sure, to use as first line... meh. Federal xm193 and PMC x-tac is my preferred. (I think pmc wastes money polishing their brass, and they do seem to burn just ever (ever ever) so slightly dirtier than Federal, but you'd never know from anything less than 90rds)

Matador_Pants

Former Army medic here -this guy is full of shit. 5.56 rounds do not "explode heads" among other things. The entry wounds are small, yes, but often there are no exits wounds . This fucking guy is LARPing hard.

I was in the actual infantry, and saw plenty of shot up bodies. The 7.72 rounds of AKs will do far more damage, which is their intended purpose. The 5.56 rounds is made to stop you if you're aiming center mass, but not exactly kill you. Obviously this is negated by shots to vital organs, or even opening an artery. The initial belief was that the enemy, if wounded, would take another person out of the fight to save them. What we didn't know was that our "enemy" wouldn't have a care for human life and believes that death is a magic ticket to 72 virgins... The M4 is a versatile weapon that can serve many functions, but blowing holes in chests isn't one of them.

Those 5.56 rounds hit, and there's cavitation inside the body, but rarely an exit wound depending on the location. Arms and legs will go clean through unless hitting bone, but center mass shots stay inside. Headshots will remove part of the skull depending on location of the round, but no fucking heads are exploding.

The smoke thing is flat out false. I've seen the SAW gunner laying down suppressive fire for at least five minutes (bursts to keep the barrel from overheating, and rounds in the chamber from cooking off) and never saw the barrel smoking. M4s also don't overheat like that and there's no smoke on the barrel ever (in my experience) Steam is possible in cold weather, but not straight up smoke.

This "medic" doesn't know shit. I'd love to beat his ass into a skin bag full of bone chips, but the faggot likely never leaves mom's basement. I wish I could kill every fucking stolen valor LARPing faggot right along with the kikes (probably the same people most of the time)

MagneticTightrope

Doesn't a lot of it depend on the type of round used? Armor piercing vs hollow point, and so forth.

MagneticTightrope

If the shooting video was fake, then damn, those special effects were better than any movie I've ever seen.

zoomsixx

Special effects would include the blood and bullet holes at least.

MagneticTightrope

Your expectations are off. There was blood in the Mosque shooting. Just not in the way you expected.

FatFreddiesCat

It's 7.62..............x39

dayofthehope

The 7.72 rounds of AKs will do far more damage

The rounds of the AK are not designed to tumble or fragment. They'll go through the target delivering only a part of the 2000J of energy of the rounds. The 556 rounds carry almost as much energy but deliver most of it to the target. 556 has to be far more deadly than the AK and not the other way around.

Matador_Pants

Hey dingleberry. Every fucking round fired from a rifle will tumble after a certain distance. You know this, correct? You seem like a wikipedia Ranger to me. The AK will absolutely fuck your shit apart. The projectile is larger.The 5.56 round is smaller, and will do less damage... or literally every person in the Army?Marines/Navy who teaches classes on this topic shit is a lying fuck. I'm willing to go with their experience over your 20 minutes on wikipedia, kike.

MaxVieuxlieu

The ignorance is amazing. Put the rounds next to each other and it won’t be a difficult question which one delivers more energy, assuming you have any understanding of physics.

OhRutherfordBehave

What about how silent the shots sound in the video?

Matador_Pants

I said, many times, I'm addressing the retard who posted on 4chan. Learn to read fucktard. I've also seen and been involved in numerous MOUT raids, and the sound isn't fucking deafening indoors. A lot of the sound that you hear depends on the make up of the interior. Lots of rugs? Yeah, those absorb sound. A big empty brick or concrete room/ You're gonna have tinnitus. They don't sound "silent". The cracks are likely loud enough to make the mic reject it a little. Go watch any combat video taken vit digital devices; you'll notice something similar.

Why the fuck does everyone try so hard to come up with tiny little possibilities just to make their narrative work? I've been involved in this shit, but yes, some autistics definitely know what they're talking about because they're autistic. Fuck outta here

OhRutherfordBehave

I was asking a serious question. And the shotgun outdoors sounds very quiet. Settle the fuck down freak.

Matador_Pants

Sorry I can't help you understand acoustics and the limitations of microphones -tiny microphones. But I don't expect that you're actually here for anything other than kikery, so have at it. If you have no argument and keep moving the goal post, chances are you're a pilpuling kike. So either stick to a point and get stomped, or STFU and go play vidjya

OhRutherfordBehave

Dude I was never arguing with you or trying to say you were wrong to begin with. The fact that you are trying to say I was and the fact that you are getting so worked up as if I had make me think you are just a shill who is just talking bullshit. You sound like a kike shill and you probably are one which makes me think you are lying. Good to know, now I know the NZ shooting was fake.

Matador_Pants

Where did I say the shooting was fake? Can you show me this? I said the 4chan LARPing medic was fake. You know I'm not a shill faggot, and if you think I'm a shill, then you clearly have no idea what an actual shill looks like. Whatever, we're all shills now. Carry on.

OhRutherfordBehave

Dude, I'm a former army medic.

Matador_Pants

In the infantry, or a Quartermaster battalion?

OhRutherfordBehave

Both.

AR47

I have seen m855 do wounds similar to that at around 50yrds.

Was rare, but it does happen. The FMJ however doesn’t do that ever.

I am going to the range this weekend and will do some demonstration if wanted

Matador_Pants

Do similar to what?! Why don't any of you use fucking nouns lol?! I mentioned a bunch of different scenarios, so which are you addressing? Otherwise I have no clue what the fuckl you're talking about.

MagneticTightrope

Sometimes it be like that.

AR47

Similar to the exit wound in the picture posted in the larp.

You don’t have to be so goddamn pissy and shit. I wasn’t a medic either, but with 855 ammo the round can shed the jacket and fucking tear you up.

With the video it’s obvious he wasn’t using green tips or they would have been seen. All I saw was FMJ and it could have been hollow point, but unlikely seeing as where he was.

Matador_Pants

Have you served in the infantry of either the Army or Marines? Do you have any experience at all with this?

AR47

Served within the US armed forces active duty for 7 years, and as for what branch I prefer not to divulge which due to the ease at which people could narrow down who and where I am.

To answer your question about use and familiarity with this weapons platform and it’s destructive abilities yes I am.

I don’t need to tell you or anyone else about my past as I won’t get into detail for my own reason. Mainly I am not that person and upon reflection I don’t really want to be known as that, and honestly what does it matter?

Matador_Pants

Don't be a faggot, I was in the X/325th A.I.R. in the 82nd. Go ahead and try to doxx me. It's not as easy as you'd think. Even if I gave you the four year span, good luck hunting me down. A lot of guys come in go in the infantry. No idea where you served, or what branch, but I'm a bit skeptical since you seem to think you could so easily be doxxed. Were you in the merchant marines or something? The Salvation Army? Seriously, what branch could you possibly have been in that someone would be able to doxx you just by mentioning the branch? Methinks you might be telling stories there, ace.

I spent four years in the x/325th, so I'm not pulling this bullshit off wikipedia. Was my MOS 11B? No, but I was with them everywhere my platoon went as their medic, and got to treat all the fucked up people after a firefight, or a good times IED. That's Joes and enemy combatants.

The whole point of my initial rant was because the 4chan dork was LARPing and dipshits here ate it up as they do with everything sensationalist that's posted by kikes.. I don't know everything about everything, but I do know what I saw with my own eyes, and treated with my own hands. 4chan medic is a LARP and half of Voat is fucking kike bots and shills. If not more. I've honestly never seen a dumber user base, and I've had a reddit account that I started back when it was still full of neckbeard coders sharing tips.

AR47

I don’t care about your freely giving of information. Lol you don’t really believe me any fucking ways, and how would you anyways? I don’t want to dox you or anyone really, but you asking for it is your own preference because whatever reason.

You seem to be full of negativity and completely indifferent to your credibility with others upon your openness to speak to others, and not at them. You do you because it’s obvious you will without me or anyone else telling you too.

As for 4chan I know that everything there is about misdirects so they can influence public opinion. It has been like that since they did the traffic cone movement in NYC. It is what these basement dwelling freaks thrive on. Influence and manipulation.

I never did disagree with you, and claimed I have seen standard military rounds from the M4 do that type of damage before. Who knows that skinny could have got hit with something else.

I know I keep multiple mags with M855 within my home ready to go at all times. For my glocks I have RIP rounds because I want them to feel that shit.

ARsandOutdoors

*RIP rounds. lol

I won't take anything you say worth a grain of salt from here on out. Stolen Valor piece of shit. Fuck you. I'd just Delete my account if I was you and stay off the Internet for awhile. Maybe take a good, long hard look at your life

AR47

That’s it mock the only other person with a chance to take your spotlight. Use all the methods you have to try and discredit them as well.

I have zero reason to validate myself to someone that wouldn’t do the same, nor even attempt to have a debate. It is likely you only know what you were told about that specific projectile.

Let me guess you watched a video and somehow it disproved all its claims, and then you use whatever buzzword you can so that somehow no one else will read what I say?

This place doesn’t matter anymore than reddit does with admin no banning accounts he so seems as spam because users are inept within his eyes to use the vote system. So sure let’s act like this place matters in the slightest.

ARsandOutdoors

Young man. Just stop. I'm no great white hunter of the forest, but I got my first .22 at 12, and a .410 that Christmas. I had 100 acres to grow up on, and a neighbor besides with 600. I've been shooting shit since before you was born. FACT. Stop back-peddling. You fucked up. You got called out on it. Own up. Or leave. Your decision

AR47

Young? Lol said I served 7 years and you think I am young?

That is it you spin your narrative and take on that parenting role as if that somehow means something as well. Your limited exposure to utilitarian firearms at a young age shows that you were nothing more than a country bumpkin with little else than guns and incest.

So you go on ahead and keep spinning that yarn and trying to appear as some authoritative figurehead for a site that doesn’t require anything more than minimal effort to be here and spout some garbage.

Matador_Pants

Yeah, there's literally nothing in the way you type or speak that makes me believe you've served in any way. Maybe you're just being reeeeaaallly protective of this secret military identity? That's some dedicated OPSEC.

It's not negativity, it's low to no tolerance for idiots. I've long passed the point of giving a shit about everyone's feels. It's the internet, I'm not here to be your buddy. Go back to reddit if that's what you need. This place wants to be a cross between the chans and reddit, which is why it's nothing but shills, idiots, boomers and LARPing fags, all trying to lay claim to the land. Being able to freely type retarded shit is the only draw, because the conversations certainly aren't.

And chief, I don't care what you keep in your bedside table, but thanks for letting everyone know. Won't name your branch, but will let everyone know what you're holding. Brilliant OPSEC, ace. Sounds like you're already LARPing out home invader scenarios, and meanwhile you forget about the guy that puts one behind your ear while he walks by.

AR47

Alrighty. Well you stay as completely dickish as you can.

Matador_Pants

No worries, I fully intend to beta boy

MagneticTightrope

That fucking neck bearded larper got his feelings hurt bad.

riposte

The reason the US military is switching away from 5.56 is that it has a tendency to zip through targets with minimal damage. I thought this was common knowledge?

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/10/daniel-zimmerman/medics-advice-shoot-heaviest-rifle-round-shoot-can-hit-shoot/

Matador_Pants

I was literally saying that... but you did it more succinctly. It's not a killer as much as it's a personnel stopper. And yes, for the Autistic among us, the rounds can kill you with center mass shots, or any other type of wound that cavitates vital organs and arteries.

I didn't know they were switching, but I can understand why. I know there are plenty of infantry guys who can tell stories about clearing rooms and buildings while raining rounds on everyone inside, only to go back on the final sweep to find guys still alive -badly fucked up, but still alive. I'm not getting into how that situation had been handled, but I do know that it was my job to provide aid to them as well, and I can tell you first hand that they're covered in little holes with no obvious exit wounds often times. Not every time, but often times. There was no way to really treat them, and true mercy would have been a double tap -but we don't do that, because reasons (lol uh huh)

TheWorstImaginable

I saw a guy get shot in the back of the skull with what I think was a .38. Part of his skull ejected from his head and ricocheted off 2 walls and went down a set of stairs. His face looked relatively normal, just a bit of deformation and his eyeballs looked fucked.

Matador_Pants

Honestly not sure what you're getting at here. We're talking about 5.56 rounds. I'm specifically talking about my own experience during three deployments. You keep trying to compare apples and oranges, but seem incapable of understanding the simple facts I presented. Again, what's the point you wish to make? Spit it the fuck out!

If you really think this shooting is a staged FF Op with no fatalities, then have at it. I'm specifically addressing the LARPing "medic". A bunch of dorks shooting indoors at a range is not the same as a guy popping rounds in a mosque. He's moving, he's not standing in a station with a bunch of other guys, squeezing off rounds after round. It's not even remotely close.

Phantom42

Don't bother with these Qultists.

Drop the truth, then GTFO.

TheWorstImaginable

you seem mad about something, why are you so pissy? You say I can't understand but you can't draw a simple parallel between something you said and something I said. This is the first time I've replied to you, and you're saying I keep trying to compare apples and oranges. Why so faggy?

Apparently the shooter wasn't using 5.56, so whatever.

I think the guy shot 50+ muslims, but you've already got your mind up about me and what I'm trying to talk about, so I'm not going to discuss this further.

Matador_Pants

And you seem like a fat fucking retard. Yes, I'm mad that fat little basement dwelling faggots like yourself latch onto LARPing faggot and hold on for dear life... but I guess that's the kike way, no?

Apparently the shooter wasn't using 5.56, so whatever. No, he wasn't firing 5.56 rounds, but LARPing fake medic was addressing things as if he was. LEARN TO READ FAGGOT!

I think the guy shot 50+ muslims, but you've already got your mind up about me and what I'm trying to talk about, so I'm not going to discuss this further. How does it feel to know that this guy accomplished more in 30 minutes than you ever will in your entire fat and miserable existence? Go die already, would you?

TheWorstImaginable

lol yea. I'm fat. I live in a basement. I'm latching on to something I saw once, and barely care about. I'm also a kike.

You have this schizophrenic vision of me that isn't accurate in any way. Keep underestimating your enemies. That will work out real well for you. They're all retarded subhuman animals incapable of any kind of strategy or weapons handling. They're totally inferior. Nothing to worry about, it will be a massacre.

I bet guys like Christopher Dorner would have something to say about that. I can't even bother to get mad about you though. You'll snuff yourself out, one way or another.

Matador_Pants

Spoken like a true pilpuling kike. You've said nothing and provide nothing of value. Deuces faggot.

TheWorstImaginable

I would bet money on me being a much more useful person than you. You must be hurting inside... Oh well.

Matador_Pants

Let's have a bet then.. I'll give you my address and you can come knock on my door, and we can figure it out quickly.

Something tells me that you in fact would not make this bet, and know very well that you're likely full of shit and trying to save face for a bunch of kikebots and dorks

Give me something -anything- that supports this "feeling" you have. Here's your chance to regale everyone with your impeccable people reading skills. I don't rinse my history, and I have no fear of being doxxed. You can see what I've been doing with my life. So tell me again, how you're a more useful person. Unless you meant for the kikes, then yeah, I'd agree that you're far more useful

tomdogg

I will say that I did wonder why the shots were so muffled. I wondered if he had a suppressor. I have an ar and when I shoot it at my local indoor range it sounds like a fucking nuclear bomb. People 5 lanes over stop shooting and look to see what kind of gun I’m shooting because they can feel it when it shoots. I mean that literally. The sound waves from firing it are able to be felt - not just heard. And on the video it just sounds like an airsoft gun.

TheWorstImaginable

you are aware that microphones in gopros adapt right? If I'm riding in the wind you can't hear shit because the mic is trying to compensate for all the noise. You can't hear anything for a few seconds after shots. One of the things that made me scratch my head is how the music seems to follow him. Either he's wearing a speaker, or there's some other explanation.

Also is a 5.56 louder than 303 or 3030?

EdSnowden

You’re a faggot, it’s not that loud. Bring an AR-10 if you want to freak people out with noise.

dayofthehope

They should be roughly equally loud since the chamber pressures for .308 and 556 are identical.

EdSnowden

They definitely aren’t. .308 sounds like a cannon going off in comparison.

tomdogg

Maybe it’s just my gun. It stops people in their tracks and I’m not exaggerating. It’s certainly louder than the gun in the video.

usernameisnotthis

this needs to be everywhere! this guy is no hero, just a jew puppet. and most goats fell for it...and i thought goats were woke to jewish trickery..

dayofthehope

I think there are a lot of shills on this site. Talking about stuff like false flag operations and talking about forum control techniques tends to bring them out.

Bigglesworth45

Here look at this all you FMJ does not fragment faggots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8IvDPuVuho

I know jewtube but all these larping faggots are pissing me off.

dayofthehope

You must have not watched that video you are linking to... I just looked at it and it's about the 556 M855A1 and it talks about the fragmentation and shows it too. Together with the massive wound channel.

Computergeek01

Conclusion, Brenton Tarrant used a .223 FMJ. This is plausible as he didn't give much thought to the shotgun load-outs either. Now fuck off with the conspiritard theories.

dayofthehope

It's a military round, so of course it's FMJ. It is however, designed to tumble and fragment causing devastating wounds.

Computergeek01

5.56 is was designed for tumbling. The .223 was specifically made for penetration against hardened targets such as body armor. I'll point it out again, the man tried to put buckshot through his windshield. He clearly did not give enough thought to how the specifics of his ammunition would impact his endeavor.

Armpit_and_Ass

.223 was specifically made for penetration against hardened targets such as body armor

https://i.imgtc.com/q2DEHHO.jpg

Hand_of_Node

How many of the bodies did he turn over after shooting them?

dayofthehope

There would have been a lot of blood if he had shot them with 556

Hand_of_Node

The blood would have been more visible if it weren't for that darned gravity.

TheWorstImaginable

sounds like a waste of time to me. he didn't even bother with the gas, arguably a lot more important than putting his gun down and using both hands to flip over 50 bodies.

Hand_of_Node

I was really just making a case for why no "devastating wounds" were seen in the video.

TheWorstImaginable

ah yea. That feed was so mulched it was hard to see bullet casings on the ground frame to frame, even when he was firing and not moving. 720p and under 10bps at best. I wish I could see some 4k footage.

FatPanda

I have been saying it for days, don't assume the video we have been shown is from the actual shooting, that is what were are told to believe happned. Did you notice the arrested person of interest does not look at all like our shooter in the video? Why did they cover his face?

One fake video, with a narrative.
One separate real event with multiple (professional) shooters (eyewitness claimed two shooters at second mosque) One patsy to take the fall (probably under mind control or drugs)

drakesdoom2

It only smokes that much when you store it wet and don't wipe out the barrel before shooting.

dayofthehope

The exit hole is the more relevant part of the infographic. That's why we should have seen plenty of blood. The wounds caused by fragmenting 556 ammunition are devastating.

Tb0n3

Why would an army medic know anything about fragmentation rounds? They're banned in war. Almost exclusively solid core.

dayofthehope

The US Army does not agree with that interpretation of international law and and continues to use fragmenting rounds .

Tb0n3

A video about ammo available to civilians? What does that have to do with the military?

dayofthehope

usually has a hollow point to facilitate this

No, it doesn't have a hollow core. It was specifically designed for military use and comply with the letter but maybe not the intention of international law. It's FMJ and it's always been.

Tb0n3

The video specifically mentions it can go straight through without a big exit wound sometimes.

drakesdoom2

If it fragments. Do you know what ammo he was using?

There were a few finishing shots that showed blood immediately.

ProudTruther

They were using the hollywood blood bag effects for a few of them. But this shot didnt happen how they are saying. Don't they refuse to identify 40 of them or so?

AR47

M193 it looked like. What the info graphic doesn’t say is that standard military rounds m855 is a steel-tungsten alloy core that is designed to penetrate and lose the jacket upon entry.

Which it why that exit wound is so damn bad. I looked multiple times and saw only FMJ or M193 ammo. In each mag that was shown I didn’t once see a green tip which is what would be M855 .

Added to that I am unsure if you can even get that ammo in NZ.

These fucking larping 4chan fucks are just trying to make more confusing information to sway popular opinion. What it really is that no one wants to believe that someone could do what he did so easily and that is where the real fear comes from.

Think about how goddamn afraid powers that be must feel now. Someone in a relative peaceful country just went on a shooting spree and broadcast it live on fucking Facebook.

If people actually realized that and stopped denying it actually happened we would be in a super panic mode. It can happen anywhere! At any time and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

That is the real problem.

Fateswebb

This is what I keep saying, the most convincing part of the video, is there is no evidence that anything even actually comes out of the gun, he shoots the wall at close range several times when the guy rushes him in the hallway. not a mark on the wall at all, same with the carpet in the main room, same with dozens of times that he fires into their bodies, no wounds appear or holes in their clothes, no blood spatter on the walls, no exit wounds, quite literally NO WOUNDS. no blood on the walls, and no damage to the walls or anything at all for that matter... just clean the carpets, of any spills and have the next mass....

Clearly not a real video. a clever mind fuck.

official_disclaimer

Dude, I noticed some weird shit too. Its like the foreground and the background are two different things. Its like the shooter is projected onto the background.

Did you happen to notice an automatic weapon laying on the ground to the right just inside the doorway as he entered the room?

Fateswebb

if you mean at the very front entrance, he drops that gun quickly as he enters and switches to a different weapon. I have tried to conceive if it would be possible to go to the scene and shoot 3d video and then enter a shooter into the video using augmented reality, because it almost seems like that is what they did, but I don't think that is what they did at all because when he shoots a few of the actors, their shirt blows up a bit showing that they were shot with air, or some non lethal projectile. so while I find the augmented reality concept interesting, Id don't think it is the case.

qwop

there is no evidence that anything even actually comes out of the gun

I don't know about that. When he shoots into the pile of bodies in the corner, you can clearly see the bullets connect. Also when he changes his magazine, you can see actual metal jacket bullets in the magazine, and not blanks.

When I was in the army blanks were always color coded. This is for safety, so that nobody would confuse real bullets with blanks. So either he had acquired real looking blanks from somewhere (which of course is possible), or they were actual real bullets.

Then in the corner he shot one guy in the head, and when he comes back after the trip to the car, there is a pool of blood under the head. You can see pools of blood at a couple other places too.

I'm just stating what I see. People can draw their own conclusions, but we can't really say there is NO blood, and that there is NO evidence of anything coming out of the gun. Both of these are present in the video.

Fateswebb

not really man, no blood like you would expect to see, splattered all over the walls etc. like I said no damage to any wall, floor, glass or anything at all. making trips to the car to allow them to open their blood props to make pools of blood doesn't excuse that the persons head would have shot blood and gore all over the wall right then and there. that didn't happen. and whatever you're saying about "you can clearly see the bullets connect? nope haven't seen a single shot make a clear connection. at all.....

info gathered by some mods on voat: Video “broadcast” by the “shooter” in the Christchurch, NZ mosque video shows very strong evidence that none of the victims in the main hall were shot with a with a high-velocity, small-caliber 5.56 rifle round as evidenced by Bloodstain Pattern Analysis (BPA). Background: Bloodstain Pattern Analysis (also known as Blood Spatter Analysis) is a forensic science relying heavily on ballistics, mathematics, physics, serology, hematology, materials engineering and other hard sciences. BPA recreates the actions of a shooting based on the science and data behind gunshot wounds (GSW). BPA discoveries are widely recognized as near irrefutable science in a court of law in the United States. BPA background: • https://gizmodo.com/physicists-are-sciencing-the-shit-out-of-gunshot-blood-1784548597 • http://www.forensicsciencesimplified.org/blood/principles.html • https://www.ifscolorado.com/bloodstain-pattern-analysis/ • https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352340918314689 Let’s look at some real gunshot wounds (NSFW): • Gunshot victim, unknown caliber: https://www.crime-scene-investigator.net/images-articles/computersvstrings-fig6.jpg (note volume of blood; shot pointing downward) • Wall shot: https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/10180000/gettyimages-157649729-800x533.jpg • A more horizontal shot – Note the very large drops, fast bleed out: https://66.media.tumblr.com/c5827528f2e25f808667e8fee7d71df0/tumblr_nk4maiKNkQ1u2roero1_400.jpg • Arterial spraying (lots of people shot and no spraying?): http://cristabuscheforensics.weebly.com/uploads/2/0/9/4/20946836/6902936.jpg?505 • And one last wall shot: https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/blood-staining-on-white-tiled-wall-picture-id174653420 • Note figure 2 – 30 caliber cartridge, self-inflicted. Headshots are a huge mess: https://medcraveonline.com/FRCIJ/FRCIJ-04-00117.pdf Now let’s look at some examples of BPA from the main hall in the Mosque (Linwood? if someone can fill in the name of the building, I’d be grateful): Source: https://www.bestgore.com/murder/livestream-video-deadly-shooting-attack-mosque-christchurch-new-zealand/ • @6 :58: Shooter fires an almost level trajectory at 10-12 people. No blood spatter on the wall: https://files.catbox.moe/cg8yqp.GIF • @07 :04: Shooter gets head/upper torso shot against the outside corner of a wall while victim moves in direction down hall. At 07:18, shooter returns past same wall and there is no blood on wall from a pointblank shot: https://files.catbox.moe/omhctd.GIF • @07 :11: Shooter shines his weapon light on a victim lying facedown on the floor. Note the complete lack of blood spatter, spray or pooling from a multiple GSW: https://files.catbox.moe/fvsvhk.GIF • @07 :23: Shooter returns to shooting previously shot people still in pile. Again, no blood consistent with over 100 5.56 rounds fired on 15-20 people against a white wall: https://files.catbox.moe/p62f7j.GIF There are no signs of mass pooling from multiple GSW. All of the victims are against, or within 5’ of a wall when they are shot. This is also worth a read on debunking a snuff film: http://www.alexanderjason.com/analysis-of-a-snuff-video-is-it-real In summary, there is nothing in the video to support that “victims” within this room and the hallway leading up to it were shot with a fatal weapon.

qwop

You want to see splatter? The video I have is 16:55 long. At exactly 11:18 he shoots a man in the head inside the mosque. His brain, including blood and splatter fly approximately 4-5m across the carpet, leaving an enormous stain.

All it took me was about 40 minutes combing through the footage frame by frame. I don't know what all these armchair internet "analysts" have been doing. It's fucking clear as day.

Fateswebb

yeah, so at the exact moment youre talking about first of all he had just swapped to a different magazine, there is not enough blood spatter you're way overexaggerating that. perhaps the switch of magazines was to one with paint, you claim you see the guys head get blown off, however this particular guy is wearing a white hat, and there isn't a single stain made to the hat, or entry wound. where it actually appears that he shot was about three inches in front white hat mans face, what could have been a bag of blood or something similar. even then he steps forward and you can see the exact spot he shot and whatever is left there.. you see no damage at all done to the man with the white hat. or even his hat is still perfectly white and in tact on his head..

Wolf451

Great Analysis. This NZ shooting was clearly yet another hoax. People of NZ, STAND AND FIGHT for your right to bear arms.

TheWorstImaginable

You can see the two young kids in the corner clutching each other. He puts at least one round through her left shoulder, probably killing the kid she's holding too. When he comes back they're both slumped over.