PraiseIPU

the ambiguity is interesting

mirimar

So your denying herd immunity? A fact that can only be attributed to VACCINES!

Men13

There already was forget research. No link was found.

Wynterwhisper

Boys have a tendency to have a higher instance of chronic inflammation due to their inability to remove the mercy and vaccination by products from their intestines. A vaccine causes a huge immune response and can cause allergies and autism from the inflammation as vaccines bypass most if the body's natural defenses. We excrete through our lungs and intestines and most males don't have a lower ability to do so as females, hense why autism is more prevalent in boys than girls.

tastelessinvective

Could vaccines be paired with anti inflammatory drugs? Suppose you took those drugs for like a month after the vaccination could that mitigate the risks?

Overdriver

No, that would offer zero benefit. Not to insult you, but the line of thought you're using is incredibly unsound from a biological perspective. The body has many systems, these systems do not work in isolation, further to this, artificially reducing inflammation will not prevent the root cause of the inflammation.

Wynterwhisper

No because most over the counter medicine doesn't cross the blood brain barrier as it's not injected intramuscularly. The whole reason for vaccine companies to go into the muscle rather than stomach or intravenously is so that the vaccine bypasses all of our immunological responses. To simplify, we are born with an immune system and we are immunizing against rarely lethal diseases and viruses that our body would make antibodies for seeing that we have an immune system. It's a money maker that plays on the uninformed. There are more people harmed by vaccines rather than the illnesses themselves and the side effects of the vaccines are life long but purposely never attributed to the vaccine due to losing money. Western medicine always treats the symptom rather than the root. If the root was treated money would be lost.

Doglegwarrior

Its crazy someone trying to ask real questions to solve a problem rather then personaly attacking the person asking legitimate questions. Well done sir i watched the movie vaxxed and prettys sure there are some serious problems with vaccines i tried discussing it with friends and was literaly called crazy and yelled at. Two of the people were doctors and every one was drunk except me it was pretty eye opening.

tastelessinvective

Yeah it's not really a black and white issue even though many people are treating it that way. We need more research into making vaccines safer. Why do some people have bad reactions and others don't? Can we do screenings to tell who's predisposed to problems ahead of time? If anyone was willing to do the research to answer all these questions I'd donate to it. Hopefully someone with the know-how gets brave enough to do it.

Men13

Are you stupid?

Many things cause gastrointestinal issues. Most of them (including vaccines) don't cause autism.

"There's a link between X and Y" doesn't mean X causes Y, just that something causes X and Y.

Otherwise pizza would cause autism, which it doesn't.

It's only relevant if you show that gastrointestinal problems cause can l autism, AND that vaccines cause the type of gastrointestinal problems that cause autism

Which had been proven not to be the case.

This is such a basic misunderstanding of how statistics (and even words for that matter) works, that you obviously have no background whatsoever in anything research related

Men13

Except for the part where the article I posted has nothing to do with vaccines,

Exactly! It has nothing to do with vaccines. Yet you post it here as prove vaccines can cause autism.

That's the sort of person you are.

Knowingly posting something irrelevant to trick people to think you are right

Pizza had nothing to do with vaccines either. Does it cause autism because it causes gastrointestinal distress?

vastrightwing

Make pharmaceutical companies liable for their products again.

Men13

Except for the part that the only person to ever claim they found an autism link was pushing his own alternative vaccines, so he had financial incentive to lie.

You'd think people of v/conspiracy would recognize a wide spread lie for financial gain.

Except for the part that your "Discovery" isn't hidden from parents - we were told to expect this by our doctor before she gave the vaccine.

Except for the part where I get gastrointestinal issues after eating too much pizza, and you'd never claim pizza causes autism.

Except for the part that your a gullible sheep

Doglegwarrior

Why is questioning vaccines and asking about them make people an idiot? Could have sworn good science didnt care about people asking questions in fact it encourages it and science experiments are supposed to be repeatable? So why would vaccine companies fear questions? Why are you so upset and attacking the person not the content of their message?

qwop

Dr. Paul Thomas, a pediatrician with 30 years of practice has a database of 13,000 kids from his work. He commissioned an independent data analyst to take a look at his database.

They took 10 years of his latest data, which included 3,345 kids born directly under Dr. Thomas's care. Then they compared the autism rates to:

  1. The CDC vaccine schedule
  2. Dr Thomas's kids on a limited so called "friendly plan"
  3. Dr Thomas's kids that took no vaccines

Results:

  1. CDC autism rate: 1 in 45
  2. Friendly plan: 1 in 440
  3. Unvaccinated: 1 in 715

Conclusion: you're full of shit, and you never investigated this issue properly. There is enough evidence at this point to conclude that you vaccinate your kids at your own risk. You can choose between 1 in 45 or 1 in 715, and you're free to do as you please, but not for long.

Men13

Then they compared the autism rates to

No, they didn't. They specifically and explicitly didn't compare the autism rates .

They compared the autism diagnosis status. Meaning they didn't go one by one to each kid and check if they had autism , like a scientist would. Instead, they checked whether there parents if the kids took them to a doctor on their own to diagnose autism.

The autistic kids of parents who don't trust doctors and hence never had them diagnosed were counted as "not having autism"

Yes, you discovered that people who don't vaccinate their kids don't trust doctors and don't bring their situation kid to be diagnosed.

Congratulations, that's utterly unsurprising to anyone.

madmalloy

I'd say this is a Redditor.

madmalloy

JFK Jr mentions work by Del Bigtree that I've been posting here. Measles for Dumbies was the last one and well worth a view. Anyone who still tries to make fun of vaccine concerns should be considered an idiot or a pharma shill.

GrandNagus

Or a Redditor. Isn't that just a bot?

TheTrigger

Pharma-shill useful-idiot bot. So... a little redundant.

Men13

No, they aren't worse than the disease.

Some gastrointestinal discomfort for a few days isn't "worse than" death.

qwop

Some gastrointestinal discomfort for a few days isn't "worse than" death.

They followed the patients for 48 days. This isn't some run of the mill tummy ache. The FDA itself states "gastrointestinal and respiratory infections". Infections. Do you speak English?

mirimar

So what? Every drug known can produce unwanted side effects, hence the pharmaceutical company commercials telling you of many possible things that may or may not happen to you while using that drug.
I'll say it again:
Find scientists that believe the way you do and make vaccines that you TRUST. The science behind them is without dispute, this is how we eradicated smallpox from the planet. Saving lives should be the largest concern.

Men13

Yes, the FDA itself states that. It isn't secret, it isn't hidden, every parent is told to expect it.

You aren't "exposing" anything, gastrointestinal, and even death, are known side effects of vaccines. Autism isn't.

CowWithBeef

Death from what?

lord_nougat

Death from ABOVE!

SmashMeleeFemDom

Do you know where you are?

derram

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=MM7psfBOdQg :

RFK, Jr. Discusses MMR "Safety" Trials Obtained Through FOIA - YouTube

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AsOnlyIAm

Woa I remember that! This makes me want to look back..

ButterBeater9000

Are you idiots seriously this stupid?

YoHomie

They are. Never underestimate stupid people in large groups - they feed off each other.

Food_Stamp

Do you kikes have any real arguments?

YoHomie

Yup, science.

ButterBeater9000

Oy vey! This is an intellectual shoah! Anti-semites everywhere!