JohnnyJohnJohn

Operation Northwoods.

trevmon

drone planes became widespread and known in 2006 but I don't get why people wouldn't have figured out military would use them, they did since WWII, as a little kid I had a remote control toy helicopter, why would military not use such tech and have a remote control plane, we send unmanned spacecraft out into space and land on mars yet people had no imagination that that could be used on earth for war?

badruns

I've been posting this for years. It is an absolute given that 9/11 was engineered to kickoff decades of war in the middle east. Do you really think the US and Israel would put rely on the piloting skills of a bunch of shitskins for such an important foreign policy event, when they've had technology for GPS-guided planes and missiles for decades? Get fucking real.

Your timeline is a little off though, the US military started experimenting to remotely piloting planes in the 50s.

trevmon

depends how you define it, they had unmanned hot air balloons in the 1800s. It's just such an obvious idea tho. I think the MSM helped CIA by intentionally never mentioning it until their use got too widespread to deny in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Conspirologist

That's right. People are too stupid to figure out that technology is more advanced than they show.

trevmon

ever hear of the movie stealth, starring jamie foxx, came out in 2005, looking back it is hilarious, an unmanned plane fighting real american pilots!!!! Like it's some kind of insane impossible scifi. propaganda

Conspirologist

Average people still think that Enemy of the State (1998) is fiction.

trevmon

that's another good one

TwitterBannedIt

OP you should watch the towers episode of "The Lone Gunman" an XFiles spin-off.

They literally remote control planes into the twin towers as part of a government plot.

The episode aired before 9/11.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

ScannerDarkly

What crashed in Shanksville wasn’t a plane.

What hit the pentagon wasn’t a plane.

You can’t make cell calls from altitude.

Ragheads are not capable of the maneuver required to hit both towers so precisely.

Also it’s physically impossible for the smaller upper portion Of either tower to crush the entire, much taller and stronger bottom portion.

Whole day is full of lies.

IIJOSEPHXII

Watch the Fox chopper clip that zooms its camera into the second tower just before the plane went in. Not only does the nose of the plane come out the other side, it then proceeds to disappear when it hits the terminator line of the special effects overlay.

To add to that, the pictures are lost for several frames before returning after the "plane's" impact had completed. These frames were removed because they fucked up and didn't centre the second tower in the middle of the screen. What viewers would have seen had they not been removed was the whole plane pass through the exploding tower intact, then completely disappearing at the overlay's terminator line.

Also if you watch that clip in reverse - so that the camera is zooming out instead of in, you will see that there is no plane on the flight path during the more distant shots.

This clip was for me the straw that broke the camel's back and converted me into a 9/11 truther. It is not important right now to know the whole truth, but to know the lies and trickery that day and who commited them.

Gingercuntfirecrotch

You by any chance have a link to that? I was talking to my mom about 9/11 the other day and would love to show her what you described.

IIJOSEPHXII

The video is called "September Clues" and it 's up on youtube.

Gingercuntfirecrotch

I just finished watching it. I don’t think that kind of format will hold her attention for too long but thanks nonetheless.

ardvarcus

It's absurd, for a whole host of reasons. One, remotely controlled from where? Two, the planes were taken over by hijackers, as the passengers themselves reported on their phones. Three, it would entail a conspiracy of ludicrous proportions. Four, there is no evidence of any kind to support it. Five, the official statement of the government is that it was hijackers. Six, you can't remotely control a plane with that degree of precision. Seven, why would they be remotely controlled, when it would be simpler and easier to hijack them and fly them manually.

Your problem, like so many other people these days, is that you lack the background knowledge, education and intelligence to apply common sense to these kinds of questions. As a consequence you arrive at absurd conclusions. Take the comedian, Owen Benjamin. He seriously believes the world is flat, and that America never put men on the moon. He believes these things, and he is not conscious of how absurd he sounds, because he just doesn't have the background knowledge to realize it. He is constantly patting himself on the back for his "high IQ" and he believed utter absurdities.

CultureOfCritique

Why would you trust anything the government says at this point?

There's plenty of evidence for the events that happened not matching up to the official story. What was most convincing for me at first was the architects & engineers for 9/11 truth video where a team of structural engineers critiqued the 9/11 commission's report on building 7. There are many experts who dispute the official accounts, and building 7 is one of the most clear-cut cases of government lies. That building should not have collapsed from the small amount of damage it sustained, and yet it did in a very controlled demolition-looking fashion. If they lied about this one building, what else did they lie about?

Your whole argument is based on appeal to authority-- "you don't know enough about it, so rely on the word of those who do". That only works when authority can be trusted. On this topic, and many more, I simply cannot trust the word of the US government. They've been caught in too many lies.

TeddyJackson

Five, the official statement of the government is that it was hijackers.

How much does the government pay you to shill?

Conspirologist

I still wonder if you are a real idiot or a shill.

TeddyJackson

For sure he's a shill.

YugeDick

I totally agree with and second everything you said except one thing. You should know that the only calls from plane passengers were from flight 93, the one that allegedly crashed into that field in Pennsylvania I think it was. The thing is though that cell phone calls weren't possible from high altitudes until 6 months later when Virgin put the capability on their planes, and only their planes at first. So even those calls from flight 93 either weren't really from the plane/passengers or only happened after the plane flew low enough, offering a very short period of time for them to be made.

blueblur

I haven’t been looking into 9/11 for a while. This idea is intriguing for sure. What happened to the passenger planes that took off?

trevmon

how about this, they never took off. the people supposedly on them never existed

blueblur

That’s what I was thinking like crisis actors. There was that husband and wife cellphone conversation that was technically impossible at the time.

trevmon

i remember on an episode of jesse ventura's show they were showing that technology existed to make someone's voice sound like that wife and trick the husband. I'm thinking gee did you never instead think that he just lied and she never called him.

blueblur

Good point! Even that could’ve been faked.

lord_nougat

I think that YOU are remote controlled!

Empire_of_the_mind

This is one of the stronger theories.

StarAnon

Raytheon is a good place to look, and the secret transatlantic test flight done a year, or two prior to 9/11 might be a good start to research your theory. Add to it, there were 6 Raytheon boys scattered throughout the 4 planes that day. Seems there might be something there; maybe not.

trotskyberg

That's possible, but unnecessarily difficult. No one has disproven that they were video effects yet - all evidence points to this so far. After Effects.

P33psh04h

What about random people recording it?

trotskyberg

Those way later and could have easily been doctored. None were leaked on that day - can look it up... Except for the Israeli camera crew that somehow caught the first one. Watch September Clues and other related content that breaks it all down. If you have the brain to figure it out, then you can know for yourself.

P33psh04h

Except for the Israeli camera crew that somehow caught the first one.

Is this like the Israeli crew of people that were caught cheering in/on top of a van?

trotskyberg

They were film makers who supposedly accidentally had the perfect shot.

trotskyberg

The only recordings are suspect. The rest could have easily been confiscated. They would just like recordings without the plane in the frame... The many angles from the pentagon incident were recorded by nearby gas stations and whatnot. All confiscated. Not something to focus on now. However, September Clues is probably the best thorough documentary on it.

Pooh_on_a_Jew

If such a technology existed 20 years, we'd have seen more cases of suspicious behavior in manned craft

clamhurt_legbeard

Predator drones are flown remotely 100% of the time. The technology goes back decades before 9/11.

And if the technology wasn't applied to airliners before 9/11, it has CERTAINLY been installed since then to prevent hijackings.

This makes incidents like the Alaska Airlines hijacking by a ground guy, and loss of Malaysian Airlines aircraft suspect.

Pooh_on_a_Jew

My point is that commercial airlines should be getting hacked all the time, considering that Jews love blaming mass murders on whites

trevmon

they don't get hacked. no one hacked em on 9/11, people that run the govt have ties with boeing who made the remote control tech and just let them do it, no hacking needed

clamhurt_legbeard

Air Force 1 was specifically cleared of bad software by Secret Service. I imagine they wouldn't just let civilian airlines stay vulnerable.