KEVDOG77

So.... no invasion

SurfinMindWaves

Serious question conspiritard brethren: What was the real reason England gave Hong Kong back to China? The Crown spreading around a little more chaos?

UnknownCitizen

Hindsight is 20/20 but global hegemonic theory may guide that from the perspective of the still waning GB empire, the long term cost associated with keeping it would go up and eventually lead to direct conflict. It could have also been a side move to burden the US with the diplomatic cost of maintaining it, knowing that the US would do so as a check to China.

SurfinMindWaves

Is there a hidden payoff for inciting conflict?

I have no idea what the intricacies of their treaties might say, but I have the gut feeling that England somehow still manages to suck those previous colonies dry while now putting the costs of governance back onto the supposedly freed indigenous peoples.

UnknownCitizen

I would imagine they remain closely tied through the City of London, which is separate from London and the U.K. proper in that it’s a corporate administered city. I’d think that Hong Kong’s financial instruments are still tied in closely.

SurfinMindWaves

Whose side am I on in this fight? I've been told females aren't capable of determining right from wrong in these complex situations. There must be a man hanging around here somewhere that can feed me the proper stance?

BearDolphin1488

Are you hot? Ifnot, kill yourself ,

SecurityReasons

I would downvote you if I could.

SurfinMindWaves

I'll accept your spiritual downvoat then.

SecurityReasons

Namaste

SurfinMindWaves

Seriously though, I am interested to hear opinions on the subject. I feel like the "Pro Democracy" title is forcing me to side with the protesters, but I'm sure the historical political and economic situation there is more complex than that.

dreamcomfortmemory

From the perspective of the protesters, if the government can come in and snatch up your family, friends, neighbors on any charge it makes up. Those people simply disappear never to be heard from again, no trial, and you could be next. Is that life even worth living? The people living Hong Kong are have been told they are all about to be potential political prisoners and they have no idea what the charges or rules are. At least that's my understanding. If that is all true, then why would they not put up an intense fight? People have already been jumping off buildings as they realize the awful ramifications of what living in that reality will be like compared the current freedom they experience.

SecurityReasons

China is the world leader in wearing the boot stepping on the face of humanity. Any victory they win is a loss for the idea of freedom for humanity in the future.

SurfinMindWaves

Does England backing away from Hong Kong have anything to do with setting them up for this though?

SecurityReasons

Perhaps, but what would be the motive?

SurfinMindWaves

That's what I'm trying to suss. Economic instability always benefits someone. Internal strife and keeping everyone in conflict seems to be popular as well. I can only speculate about their desired outcomes.

TimberWolfAlpha

it mostly means that England's testicles shriveled up and turned to dust, leaving them without the fortitude to protect those people.