black_poop

dumb laymen like to chew on this stuff and swallow. you couldnt spark any interest if it wasnt another sensational space mystery. no relevant person ever said that the Big Bang started the universe. this is only the imagination of normies who dont understand science, theories, astronomy.

stupids sell this stuff as science and entertainment to other stupids. cheap ass fake science, history, whatever.

ardvarcus

This paradox has been around for decades. How can stars be older than the universe? Answer: they can't. So either the age of these stars is wrong, or the age of the universe is wrong, or something is going on with time and space that science hasn't even yet considered. My own theory: the universal constant, the speed of light, varies with the size of the expanding universe. As the universe gets smaller toward the beginning, time is compressed. This time compression is not accounted for in the calculations of modern cosmologists.

WolfmanBill

Expanding Universe my arse.

Big Bang .. Big Bullsh t, Astronomical Redshift is an Artifact of Distance. *

Michael Servetus in 1553 & Giordano Bruno in 1600 were burned at the stake for teaching astronomy, while as of this day the science world wide is directed by the Flat Earth Brigade .. the kill 'em burn 'em mindset is still alive and is directed at 911 Truthers no less, Jews did it.

The Big Bangers, Sagan, Hawking et al are idiots and stretcher case retards, whose impetus is the dumbing down of mankind, who remain the scientific equivalent of politicians and journalists, blind to hard evidence 911 was an inside job!

See the Virgo cluster for images of galaxies extending as far as the eye can see, some appear to exist in a swarm around the sub cluster at the core, others are in streamers and wisps of galaxies extending outward, until their images are no more than pin points.

In the 1950's when the spectra of deep field galaxies obtained by Edwin Hubble with the two hundred inch telescope on Mount Palomar, was subjected to scrutiny, it was found that the absorption lines of all the common elements were shifted toward the red end of the spectrum.

This is called redshift, the furthest ones away attested to by the small width of their image on the photographic plates, all had greater RS than their closer counterparts whose images subtended a greater angle.

When space based and adaptive optic instruments extended the visual limit even further..

Vastly more distant edge on spiral galaxies , recognized as a central bulge with two pointy bits extending about twice as far on the same axis, emerged in the same advanced stages of evolution as the MW.

Here RS is approaching twelve which puts the rate of recession well into the super luminal category, which means faster than the speed of light, yet they are goin’ about their own business the same as around here.

Expanding the images further for faint blobs of light which are galaxies ever further away in every direction, and see them as neurons in the brain of God which is meant in no evangelical sense, it just seems the best way to describe it.

M31 the Andromeda Galaxy has blue shift because it is gravitationally bound with other galaxies in the local group, M31 and the Milky Way or home galaxy, with Centaurus A and Dwingeloo 1..

Another member of the local group which lies directly opposite the nucleus of the MW, will expand to become elliptical galaxies and form a sub cluster typically seen in the middle of larger galaxy clusters.

NGC 5128 called Centaurus A twenty six million light yrs distant, is currently undergoing that process.

Those who cackle on about the age of the universe expressed as a percentage of it’s present age..

Say redshift indicates the universe is expanding after the explosion of a primal atom, that accordingly could only have been located right where good ol’ Earth is today, the Big Bang hypothesis.

A class of object called a BL Lacerta object has no redshift, and remains a pinpoint of light on even the deepest fields, is thought to be a tunnel shot of the energy beam from the active nucleus of a quasar.

Modern binocular space based and image stabilized telescopes, have identified a rim of matter surrounding some of the BL Lacerta points of light which does exhibit redshift, supporting that hypothesis.

Thus viewing a distant galaxy with a redshift of eight, between here and there is another galaxy with a RS of four, indicating it was speeding toward the more distant place.

From the more distant galaxy our galaxy the Milky Way would similarly have a RS of eight, so too would the intervening galaxy viewed from the more distant place have a RS of four, indicating it was speeding toward us at a pretty good clip.

It can not be speeding in both directions at once can it now.. when confronted with that the Big Bangers start on about balloons and expanding space, forget about balloons Hubble was a dictator.

The only person other than him who was allowed to look thru the two hundred inch telescope, was a mule skinner named Milton Humason.

Hubble and Milt cooked up the Expanding Universe theory between the two of them, which is just so much hot air .. assume that most spiral galaxies that look the same are roughly the same size, as distance reduces the linear dimension constantly so too does redshift increase in proportion.

A spiral galaxy that is one degree across, will be twice as distant as another that is two degrees across, similarly one that is half of one degree wide will be twice as far as the first, and four times further than the other.

Blue shift is observable in the discs of rotating galaxies, thus the light from a distant galaxy will exhibit mean redshift in proportion to its linear distance, expanding the image further, as rotation brings parts toward us they will be slightly blue shifted back toward the norm.

Similarly as rotation takes objects away, their light will be shifted so slightly even further toward the red part of the spectrum.

The Hubble Space Telescope went into orbit with an incorrectly ground primary mirror, B’s of D’s were invested in building, storing and testing the HST prior to launch, and nobody had checked to see if the primary mirror was going to work.

Where did the money go, spammers will tell you about what a great asset and what a grand piece of hardware it is, it is not it is a piece of junk , who got the HST money as well and the trillions missing from the Pentagon revealed September 10, 2001 .

Merchant_Menace

Lol. Remember that time when they thought they found tachyons but the just forgot to plug a certain cable? People fuck up cobstantly and these age estimates are just estimates. Relax.

ex-redd

age of the universe

13.8 billion years

age of star

14.5 billion years (plus or minus 0.8 billion years)

***14.5 - 0.8 = *** 13.8

am I missing something?--pretty sure stars started forming almost immediately

HarlandKornfeld14

Starts did not start forming almost immediately, for the first hundreds of millions of years there was super hot dust. Then supermasive stars formed, but had very short lifespans.

LaughingAllTheWay

This should put the universe in the 16B years old range, since they've agreed it takes at least 2B years for stars of this size to form. I'm not finding much on this yet, but a physicist friend says there are rumblings about re-aging the universe. Very interesting since every article says 13.8B as if they have any clue.

JustFuckingDoIt

Bad title. Should read, "More proof that Einstein was full of shit, and other reasons Big Bang Theory is flawed".

70times7

Seeing as the big bang theory was invented by a catholic priest, safe to say its nonsense.

Cant see the 500 ways the bible calls out the evils of catholicsm in plain as day language, but can postulate the beginnings of the universe.

Righhht.

voatusernamevoat

Why is this in conspiracy?

gosso920

The star was put there by God to test our faith.

That_VoiceOver_Guy

Like Dinosaur fossils, right? see Bill Hicks

Lord_Oprah

LMAO

HarlandKornfeld14

Well I could post it is a space subverse but it is more of a theory right?

voatusernamevoat

Same as the big bang theory.

HarlandKornfeld14

Big if true