33degree

LOL. Fucking idiot. Here's a geoengineering companies website: http://weathermodification.com/

Their motto is literally : When you look up in the sky, you see clouds. We see potential.

33degree

So do you acknowledge the existence of cloud seeding and solar radiation management or no?

33degree

studying the effects areosols have on our climate,

And how would they do that without spraying them into the atmosphere? Also, they're talking about it in the future tense. Why? We already know it's going on right now. Proof: http://weathermodification.com/

CarbideSHRP

Sarcasm has undertones, and we are on the interwabs so sorry if I misinterpreted your tone.

Lets take one point at a time.

Chem trails are just cloud seeding. Yes. And when the trails behind aircraft are not contrails then they must be called something else. The most common term I know for that is chemtrail.

Second point. If the trails are not contrails (and cloud seeding falls in that category) then logically I cannot prove if they are cloud seeding. That is just an assumption based on my limited knowledge of any aerosol sprayed from a plane. The theory in that case could be that the trails may be something else besides contrail or cloud seeding.

Third point. There is a stigma for using the word chemtrail. I think the media has implanted many stigmas for many words ( assault rifle, conspiracy theory , anti -vaxxer, inside job etc..) to create a reactive aversion to the subject. The language controls peoples initial perceptions of things, and they will not look further into it because they are trained not to look into those things. The language limits the spectrum of conversation often making things black or white, for or against.

..So when someone talks about chemtrails being real, and you know cloud seeding is real, then cut a dude a break. And try to not hold it against us that we are forced into this controlled linguistic paradigm.

CarbideSHRP

I'm sorry, what do you mean? Can you address the statement I made or do you only insult those who you disagree with?

CarbideSHRP

How do you think they cloud seed then..?

Edit: Can you make a clear distinction between the two? I was under the impression that "chemtrail" refers to chemicals that are dispersed from a plane, which is a widely known and accepted form of aerosol cloud seeding technique.

33degree

That being said yes spraying HAS in fact been done... Its an additive to jet fuel.

So why do so many people believe that chemtrails are a conspiracy theory? By definition, the "additives" create chemical trails that are being used to mitigate climate change. This is what has been said by "conspiracy theorists" for YEARS. Now, it's "It's always been this way", "we've always known about it". Just like every other conspiracy theory that becomes fact.

The exhaust of an engine the particulates give the water the particles it needs to form clouds.

No. Not water particles. Chemical exhaust particles that combine with real clouds, making them heavier, and causing rain. There have been planes spraying this shit for almost 20 years. Only now are scientists admitting it and leaking it out into the public slowly.

33degree

He doesn't say about chemtrails...

They are literally talking about using "spray aerosols" to change the weather. Geoengineering = Chemtrails. This is what people have been saying for YEARS. Now, there's an AMA about it.

CarbideSHRP

And some people still maintain that "chemtrails dont exist". Notice nobody using that term. It has a stigma and is immediately discredited. Call it something else and everyone is OK with it.

Edit: Nobody using that term on the /r thread

CarbideSHRP

You would expect people to be posting "see Chem trails are real" but I'm sure everyone saying it is getting shadow banned. The stigma associated with that word, yeesh.

Also, I wouldn't expect an open acknowledgement of "chemtrails". Just change the word and everything is fine. Aerosols doesn't quite have the ring to it but you lose the stigma of that word... apparently since everyone in that thread is like "oh Yea aerosols are good we should study them." Swap the word and watch them all go ape shit.