deathcomesilent

I agree, but let's maybe stay on topic here.

You're (perhaps unintentionally) marginalizing the scale of the corruption going on with the Enron fiasco.

And come on, everyone with a functioning brain knows that the government is corrupt. The idea that there could be proof that enron and the govt were scratching backs, has some big implications on the depth and scope of the current corrupt world regime.

Ispankdamonkey

Enron is more or less a scapegoat so to speak. Social security makes enron look like the boy scouts. Also if people knew about the derivatives market.. Derivatives is the stuff nightmares are made of..

FriedrichNietzsche

Speculating on commodity prices is nightmarish?

Ispankdamonkey

LOL I love when someone has no clue tries to comment.. Go educate yourself..

un1ty

Enron was "Enroned" because they were instrumental in getting GWB into presidency. Meaning, it would have likely never happened if Enron didn't exist.

FriedrichNietzsche

Analysts were also discouraged from pointing out the obvious in Enron's quarterlies. The government tore down the wall between investment banking and analysis, so investment bankers could use their own analyst's reports to push stock. So bankers pressured analysts to say only good things so they could sell, analysts wanted the commission, and on top of it all, reporting negatively on Enron will take down it's price.

also the article is probably overstating how "corrupt" Enron was. Most people on the inside really didn't think it was doing so badly. Andy Fastow and a few of his cronies in finance were the primary puppeteers in all the shady SPE shit they were running.

Oh, and JP Morgan and Merrill Lynch both aided and abetted (found guilty) of helping Enron.

Oh, and Jeff Skilling was permitted to use mark-to-market accounting because SEC idiots believed natural gas derivative trading is somehow "consistent" money-earning.

Not to mention Enron sabotaged it's own goals in manipulating deregulated California energy, when it was lobbying states to deregulate energy. (Enron wasn't the only guilty party, and by far not the worst).

Bottom line: government deregulation can be bad, shitty government regulators is bad, American Harvard MBA business culture is bad.

FriedrichNietzsche

Social security.. is not much at all like Enron.

TexasComments

Enron was also the single funding source that put Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee into office because Congressmen Craig Washington had pissed off Ken Lay. There is also the matter that a large amount of staff in the Bush White House were former Enron employees and executives.

superq7

"There is also the matter that a large amount of staff in the Bush White House were former Enron employees and executives."

To be fair they had all recently become unemployed.

TexasComments

Haha, some had jobs before that happened.

FriedrichNietzsche

Enron was one of the largest natural gas companies and made plenty of money due to deregulation of natural gas and pressured for power deregulation. Why is it so surprising that they would then have so many people involved in GOP politics?

TexasComments

Sheila Jackson Lee is a Democrat ;)

FriedrichNietzsche

As if the party title matters? Historically energy has been on the GOP side, and I was more referring to your comment about Bush.

TexasComments

Just making sure you know that it isn't just GOP. Enron played with whomever was willing to play ball.