Veghead

My friend had a 6 week premie baby that may have brain and vision damage. Her bedroom overlooks a 5G tower.

chris

the one thing these dummies never take into account is that they are placing the plants right next to the vents that put out dry heat produced by the electronics inside....many plants are very susceptible to things like that and will die and/or not grow as you see here. This is something we know to be true vs. wireless radiation from consumer grade routers killing plants, so the safe assumption is its the thing we know killing plants that is killing the plants.

You can see the vents in the plastic right above the seeds.

cm18

This is awsome. It teaches the students about corruption, that media lies and distorts, and most importantly to think for themselves.

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Rellik88

So great high school experiment, however not enough controls. They need like 5 of each. The wifi one could of had bad seeds, not enough water etc etc. They need more controls.

Billistics

They should have used lead foil.

ArielQflip

This Expiriment was conducted in Sweden back in the early 90s. The herbs didn't grow well in a wi-fi environment. It should be common knowledge but it's not.

awsmdawg

I remember that. A lot of resources were used to dismiss/debunk that experiment, which I found a little suspicious in it self.

Personally I don't own a mobile and have only wired connections to the internet and have had so for about 5 years.

The main difference is that I don't feel agitated and restless for no apparent reason as I used to.

And there seems to be less of a distance between thinking and doing.

I also think some people are more sensitive than others concerning RF.

AwakeVet

The same experiment should be conducted with the access point outside of the faraday cage with antennas placed inside and connected to the WiFi with a coaxial cable. That will better isolate the signal to the inside of the cage and eliminate the heat variable from the access point performing its regular functions.

RoundWheel

It wasn't clear to me what they were doing to maintain RF? If nothing is using it,it just sits there broadcasting beacons at periodic intervals.

qwop

Normally the interval is 100ms. I listen to these things on an RF-meter. A WiFi router sounds like a woodpecker. They are easy to identify because of this signal. So every 100ms it will be a pulse at full power, which according to regulation can be between 200mW and 4000mW, depending on the frequency range. It's still quite a lot of power in such a small enclosure, that is also RF-reflective.

It would be better if the output could be controlled of course, but if it was a constant 4W transmission, I bet you nothing they would do would make those seeds survive. 4W is an enormous amount.

Building Biology guidelines (not FCC, but biologically based) puts a limit for human sleeping quarters around 0.005 mW/m2. Gives you some idea of the ranges we are talking about.

Epictetus_Hierapolis

A foil lined box with at least three electronic devices in it, vs a plastic box... Considering most seeds have a germination range within 8-10 degrees and failure outside of that, this is a flawed experiment.

BB-3

Great. My apartment is in range of like 8 or 10 WiFi networks. One more reason to get out of the city.

RoundWheel

Proximity is be a major factor. Signal falls off at the square of the distance.

BB-3

Would it not be the cube of the distance?

qwop

Think of a ball around the antenna. This ball will receive all the radiation emitted, spread across its full surface.

Now what is the formula for the surface area of a sphere? It's (4 * PI * r^2).

That is, the surface of the sphere is relative to square of he radius.

This is where the inverse square law comes from - when you increase the distance, the radiation gets spread out over an increasingly big surface, and that surface grows by the square of the distance, which then gives the decrease in radiation as an inverse to the surface area, e.g. the inverse square law.

EngelbertHumperdinck

Brilliant explanation. The surface area model makes so much sense. Thanks!

1HepCat

"The poison is in the dose." With all the reflectors wrapped around a relatively small volume, the energy density might've been way more than was good for the seeds. Imagine being stuck in a tanning booth for days. That doesn't mean you can't withstand some exposure to light.

It's an interesting result but it might be even more so if they follow up, varying different energy densities and seed varieties, etc.