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origin206

Aside from the mod of /v/criticalthinking posting pro-gmo, pro-vaccination content every single day without delay, not really. That sub mostly makes me cringe from the lack of any actual critical thinking.

Pseudoscience != Science != Irrefutable Fact

shmegegy

yes but they are stuck with the same dishonest faulty logic as anywhere else.

deathcomesilent

What kind of evidence would be satisfactory to you? There's all kinds of blips here and there in forums, where users get payed by the thread to upvote certain users and downvote others, but it's still fourm posts. Convincing to me, but I'd never call it proof. There is always "plausible deniability" as they say.

deathcomesilent

It's not really shilling if the person isn't hiding anything. His comments seem to stay pretty on topic relative to the commenters around him. Just advertizing is my guess. Also, pretty sure Voat's free speech ideals still protect advertising, but that doesn't stop the users from downvoting them to oblivion if they don't like the company.

deathcomesilent

Shh... Don't tell them they're drop dead obvious, I like it this way.

deathcomesilent

Pretty positive that guy is a basement-dwelling troll. You'd get fired so fast from a forum spy job if you told people what you were up to, they employ in groups, and one will rat out another (in exchange for a bonus) if they see anything abnormal going on.

salvia_d

Zionist shills are definitely active here, in all politics related subverses.

sec

No, and a strong community would trump/downvoat any obvious shills which is why I am on voat.

When you compare the content of voat to reddit, its incredibly obvious that reddit's content is driven by investors, and voats content is driven by the people.

In fact I see the effort on Atko's part to avoid becoming a shill, from posts earlier in the year.

I would rather subscribe to this site to keep it afloat, than have investors keep it up who EXPECT permanent returns.

pitenius

Noap. Slight suspicion of revenge bots based on complaints in "why did I get downvoated" threads, but nothing else.

sodaphish

considering the API isn't on-line and the dev API server is suspended, I doubt that there are any legit bots. Throw on to that the whole cloudflare anti-ddos component, and I don't think you could even write a scraper.

pitenius

I think you could run a downvoat script? Not globally, just something like GreaseMonkey.

sodaphish

touche!

I hadn't thought of doing it in GreaseMonkey. Shit, now I have a project.

pitenius

Not entirely a "bot" but... I think I've seen people with grudge-based downvoats.

I'm very interested in keeping the bots out.

NotAnUndercoverCop

/v/trollpatrol

/v/antiGOT

are a great start...

and if you weren't already familiar with the "shill watch" sub on that other site... /r/nolibswatch

matt

Finally...Thank You

Edit: got excited about the shiny new links. Content was disappointing. Esp the /r/ link. You'd think those guys would have their work cut out for them.

NotAnUndercoverCop

Well, the r/ link is dedicated to just one person and their socks.

Alias_Unknown

I'm Totes McGoats a nuclear industry shill. Just ask @MadMalloy .

madmalloy

Feel free to post on the sub you created.

I don't have the time or inclination to argue with you.

Alias_Unknown

Can I at least finally get an explanation on why you banned me?

giskard

He isn't smart enough to argue with you.

totes_magotes

HEY! Leave me out of it.

Alias_Unknown

Ha! My faithful steed hath return!

(I have a D&D character who is a Gnome that rides a goat named Totes McGoats)

matt

I take this to mean you have been accused before, but you deny the claim?

Do you think that falsely calling out "shills" is a shill technique to draw attention away from themselves? (....I'm having fun now....)

Alias_Unknown

He banned me from his subverse /v/Fukushima for questioning an article he posted.

Basically I don't subscribe to the whole Fukushima will fry the world trend.

So after a quick discussion he banned me for being a nuclear industry shill.

He also won't properly explain his decision aside from that comment on the banned persons log.

As for your question, I wouldn't put too much money on that. For the most part I've seen dumbfucks calling people shills.

It seems to me that it's become a sort of insult or something.

But I've also seen a couple of actual shills on here.

However they're far less exciting than you're thinking.

Just off the top of my head there was a vacation website shill, an anti vaxxer, some obscure website spamming themselves, and some fashion something or other.

I'm sure there's a few political ones on here with all the campaign circle jerks and smears. But I honestly just don't care enough about that shit.

poly

Why would you consider an "anti vaxxer" a shill?

I know why i suspect pro vaxxers to be shills.

Alias_Unknown

It was one account in particular that was brand new with nearly two dozen posts. All of them about how vaccines will kill the children or give them autism. Most but not all the links lead back to a single hippy dippy website.

Ulluses

There's that guy that keeps posting that shitty "Manhood 101" thing, just a snake oil salesman but he's persistant in his ctrl-c ctrl-v practise. He must have burned through a hundred accounts thanks to the downvoat system and then voat went invite only so he's been begging and buying accounts to spam with, slowed him down a lot.

Alias_Unknown

Yeah it was at least one guy and possibly more.

But they were pretty active for a bit. Atko ended up banning the URL.

So they ended switching tactics and spamming comments instead.

I'm not sad to see their absence.

matt

Thank you for the response. Tangentially; losing reactor cores in the earths crust is concerning to me...but as my geologist friends say "the oceans are vast."

Alias_Unknown

I by no means think it's a good thing. However there is a sad history of dumping nuclear waste into the oceans. So although it's an on going problem with a difficult solution. It's proven thus far that it's not going to fry the world.

matt

I'm concerned due to the amount of calories the Asian countries pull from that ocean. Cut off that food supply and things would be bad. Bad is not good.

Alias_Unknown

Well over fishing is a problem all its own. Which is exasperated due to the amount of island countries in the area that rely on the ocean for food and other stuff.

writingandsmiting

I don't have any. Just want to add that there being no shills on voat is even scarier. That would just add creedence to the theory that voat is a psy-op to cleanse reddit of free-thinkers.

matt

No shills makes sense to me. They're going to spend their advertising dollars where they can get the most return. Too small an audience here.

And let reddit be cleansed if that is their desire. That is like scrubbing the baby really well before throwing it out with the bath water.