In air flight of Kalitta Air N741CK. Recently in Japan, Hong Kong, Australia, Germany, India, yet it returns repeatedly to insignificant airport CVG in Hebron, KY. Go figure.

CluelessInTheDark 2020-03-29T16:53

A question for cargo pilots who fly for LARGE INTERNATIONAL companies (like DHL, Amazon) -- do you fly a designated airport to airport pattern weekly or do you hop scotch around the world for picking up cargo?

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Caliope 2020-03-29T15:50

Here is some Sauce:

( https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-24315.htm?__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=504021b5e93339e9d50e3587f7ed698815457ecb-1585496743-0-ATJXTYsPdYLDcr-FoSkYP6c2I-9R7EWZkOZVWhodDV8hdtMKA0L3_qcJrMmUXIqRsKcMyshcd-EpQP8p2zKnUh0UZRFj2h4yputOBK8En_3cLHKrIBGxyRkO32-7liXttD63J9yma1FPHY1crKfTFkDO64udq9Q0WUU7c5hexpD2CL9yowgCTpnZEJFXQvu3EC-xeMzN8UxU9kwmbfPGT9UREwvddT6ltrFzYAyuOWznIiv3Qa9Hq0d74x2CbujSLqkb2S4vgebMOfuxNQCBinJWz0ELb0EJQ7vDwaakWbFvZv3X5ZYsJcHZy3GheUJ4dO52STncBJ0pCd4suWgXJmfzNORAzeks4H_dQxkMJ2JcMhzuy-HWTd2jNQ2T7C7IAo9B7CSFZov4yiPhMKlaPYSh2YJh7Kwr4CtQc3z9YTYZFq3skw6Slj4zBsOtAEZQFbz67of8fzMWMrtJicT9XQnidoD-OUOSSymA69tM9JUvhZ0kq3ChDaBX1JgJJRw_c7cXwRhR_Rh37mUwE5SpyxFpK3xzCp9At6B5__86CflU )

Appears to be a B747 type heavy cargo aircraft.

Here is Sauce on the Owner:

( http://www.kalittaair.com/#modern-organic-thai )

Highly likely that the Aircraft is flying global DHL shipments, given it's international routes of travel.

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CluelessInTheDark 2020-03-29T16:44

Amazon International also uses that airport. Thanks for the info. Huge international CARGO airport.

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cyclops1771 2020-03-29T15:06

CVG is greater Cincinnati's airport, it's not some tiny little airstrip like Mena, Arkansas.

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CluelessInTheDark 2020-03-29T15:19

It IS primarily a CARGO airport.

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cyclops1771 2020-03-29T15:31

9 million passengers a year fly through CVG on airlines.

It gets a lot of Cargo flights because DHL expanded their Cincinnati warehouse hub after they closed the Worthington DC in Columbus when they pulled out of direct to home US deliveries. Like UPS in Louisville and FedEx in Memphis, DHL uses CVG for its US hub operations for dispersing to localities.

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CluelessInTheDark 2020-03-29T16:42

Not a lot of passengers. Sorry. Not trying to hurt your feelings, but not a lot of passengers. In 2015, NYC airports=124.2 million

It's the cargo that makes the airport interesting.

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cyclops1771 2020-03-29T17:06

LOL. Comparing 5 NYC Airports (LaGuardia, JFK, Newark, Islip and Teeterboro) with a metro area of 20+ million to Cincy's (2 million in MSA) one airport? Ok, sure.

It isn't that interesting when you realize that CVG is the US hub for DHL one of the largest worldwide air freight companies.

Compare Air freight to FedEx in Memphis (MEM) 9.8 million or UPS in Louisville (SDF) with only 3.4million passengers to CVG.

It being a hub is also pretty much shown in the data 617,000 Tons of air freight unloaded, and 610,000 tons loaded. So, what came in, went right back out, which is the essence of a Distribution Hub.

It's a nice thought, but it's just a corporate consolidation situation, again, just like FedEx in Memphis and UPS in Louisville.

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CluelessInTheDark 2020-03-29T23:52

An observation: Where do you supposed most of that DHL & Amazon freight gets shipped that arrives in Hebron, KY? My educated guess is a huge portion heads (by truck or train) to either coast, where the concentration of population is. A logistics manager wouldn't pick Hebron as the most efficient, cost effective location for an inland port. Yet 2 major companies did.

Certainly the local governments are VERY grateful for the revenue and employment. Certainly local government bends over backwards to meet the needs of those mega-companies and works hard to do nothing that would make those companies leave.

Just pondering WHY Kentucky/Ohio was the selected location. What are the benefits? Customs looking the other way? Lax enforcement? Low supervision of what is in those cargo bays? Mentally toying with real world possibilities.

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cyclops1771 2020-03-30T00:35

DHL doesn't do global shipping anymore into USA - it's mostly express mail. It comes in through Miami, NYC, and LA, and goes to CVG for sorting and Distribution.

Why does FedEx fly everything to Memphis? Why does UPS route everything through Louisville?

It's not "little town" Hebron, KY, it's Cincinnati area. That's like saying "Who put this giant airport in little Rosemont, IL and made it the 2nd busiest airport in the world?" or "Why would they put a giant Delta hub in Romulus, MI or in Bloomington, MN?" It's just a burb. BUT, it does have the benefit of being further out from the city ceneter, so putting up a 2 million sq/ft/ DC and sorting facility won't cost you an arm and a leg in environmental cleanup of existing sites, or having to pay union bribes because within a city, or have to deal with city council and big city politics, plus getting 200 acres of land is cheap to purchase over buying 10-12 city blocks to raze. It is basic facility planning.

So, why CVG? Louisville is 2 hours away, Lexingotn is 2 hours away, Columbus is 2 hours away. Airport used to be a Delta hub, but since they merged with Northwest, they closed CVG as a hub for it's regional flights, and made DTW the passenger hub. Which means that the airport was oversized for its current usage, so it was an economical decision to use it, because ther ewas already the longer runway in place and no infrastructure to build - ATC had the infrastructure, CVG had the infrastructure, and you are right on a major N-S highway(I-75), 30 miles from a major E-W (I-70), direct shots on I-71 and I-74 to Indy and Columbus. That's 10 million people within a 2.5 hour drive from CVG airport for Amazon.

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CluelessInTheDark 2020-03-29T14:37

The airport is a focus city for Allegiant Air, Delta Air Lines, and Frontier Airlines. Additionally, CVG is the fastest-growing cargo airport in North America.[8] The airport is a global hub for both Amazon Air and DHL Aviation, handling numerous domestic and international cargo flights every day.

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