k_digi

Reddit was mostly fake probably 70% of the 'votes'.

Here what occurred was a big 'fake rush' then the 'up down' algos caught it out.

Now sits at probably about 20 to 30 % fake, it's 'acceptable' lets see how 'incorporating' in the USA changes that ha ha.

Point is this, I have like only 3 subs blocked and a lot of 'quality' content gets to front page still.

pitenius

I think VOAT is upwards of 85% "real". I've seen reasonably plausible bots on LiveJournal. I think Reddit depends heavily on the sub. I think some subs are over 90% real. I think some are under 10%. Traffic draws the bots.

This is true by site, too. I think there's an attempt by MSM and it's colonists that nothing incendiary and derogatory appear on the front page, with the knowledge that most people won't click through all 1758 pages of comments. I suspect the sorting algorithms are basically open to propagandists at this point.

How pervasive is it? If you've heard of the site (Yahoo, YouTube, IMDB, Reddit...), someone's gaming it. Touchy topics invite disruptors. So, if even you haven't heard of "OccupyCleveland.org", someone's spreading shit there. I think this also happens in health and legal communities. I'm not sure how wide-spread it is.

I don't think upvoats/downvoats should be trusted in the least. People get downvoated for grudges or perceived tone. It tells you more about the downvoaters than the comment. Upvoats? One liners with sexual innuendo on the highest rated comment will pave your path to the karma kingdom...

darkrxn

Depends on the difference of a shill or a sheeple. Everything youve read and thought "surely a CIA agent is typing this right now," you probably already know two people IRL who would type that, unless you dont get out, much.

See an apple astroturf?

I see an old joke you might have heard. "How can you tell if somebody got a new iphone? You dont have to guess, they'll tell you."

People love to prosletyze brands and status symbols, even if it is the emporers new clothes. Sometimes its truly worth it, but usually, its the same keeping up with the jones that has worked all my life and probably longer.

So, not corporate shills, not big brother, just people who dont want to think, they dont want to do research, they just want the authorities to tell them the answer, they are lazy mindless sheep.

drmarshall

Depends on what you're visiting I remember thinking 99% of the submissions to r/movies were just people/companies promoting their upcoming movies with a photo of it in the making. It proved no purpose other than to promote the film in my opinion.

darkrxn

Definitely, because of the 90-10-1 rule, and nobody visiting "new." So, if the 1 is the MPAA, and they pay mods or admins to sock puppet as if 10, then the 90 have to view astroturf. If people werent lazy and helped sieve through /new, then that would at least make sock puppets cost more, but since lazy sheep just look at the top, they see the astroturf.

Banksy has a good quote:

“The thing I hate the most about advertising is that it attracts all the bright, creative, and ambitious young people, leaving us mainly with the slow and self-obsessed to become our artists. Modern art is a disaster area. Never in the field of human history has so much been used by so many to say so little.”

AzureNova

I still give them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm getting more pessimistic by the year.

pm_me_firearms

Reddit Comments is probably 50-50.

Remember, shills are much more likely to comment than a random user.

Voat has lot less, but there is some. Manhood 101 for example.

toobaditworks

One. Me. I'm legit .